Why are the recent seasonals so difficult?

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its not that im against tuning, or think its pointless. i just dont have time to fine tune each car, that's why i only did the seasonals prohibiting tuning, or else i wouldnt be competitive at all.
 
Gr8888T
its not that im against tuning, or think its pointless. i just dont have time to fine tune each car, that's why i only did the seasonals prohibiting tuning, or else i wouldnt be competitive at all.
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I hear you, gr8888t mate:cheers: I hope more can see that I CAN have a sense of humour about most all of this, but it's hard when faced with absolute denial of some realities.
If PD would give up an update that added more grind races I'd go away and leave it ALL alone:sly::lol::cheers:
 
bluecharger
I'm told "we play it like a REAL simulator", on the other, "oh, it's just all fun and games". One of these statements is not true when it comes from the same people. Can anyone on here stop covering their asses long enough to understand that?
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Those saying its a 'real simulator' especially when referring to tuning are lying, its more guesswork thank a reality based 'skill'. Tunes may get you the odd tenth but drivers ability outweighs it all..

And whats the 'click' you talk about? I'm not in one, I just asked the top guy for his tune the other night and he gave it to me? Some like to share, some don't. Theres not some big conspiracy against the 'little guy'? :boggled:
 
Dusty1990
Those saying its a 'real simulator' especially when referring to tuning are lying, its more guesswork thank a reality based 'skill'. Tunes may get you the odd tenth but drivers ability outweighs it all..

And whats the 'click' you talk about? I'm not in one, I just asked the top guy for his tune the other night and he gave it to me? Some like to share, some don't. Theres not some big conspiracy against the 'little guy'? :boggled:
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Dusty, no disrespect to you, but I am NOT having this discussion anymore. I've said my piece, feel free to read up and all around. :cheers:
 
Dusty1990
Those saying its a 'real simulator' especially when referring to tuning are lying, its more guesswork thank a reality based 'skill'. Tunes may get you the odd tenth but drivers ability outweighs it all..

And whats the 'click' you talk about? I'm not in one, I just asked the top guy for his tune the other night and he gave it to me? Some like to share, some don't. Theres not some big conspiracy against the 'little guy'? :boggled:
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Tuning is not guesswork if you know what you're doing. Certain things work a certain way and the skill comes in what you tradeoff vs what you get and adapting that to your own personal driving style. You're right though it's not reality based, but it does work within it's own parameters quite effectively. Depending on the car/track combination a good tune can easily net you 1 full second or more, depending on how the car is stock or relative to a poor tune.
 
bluecharger
Dusty, no disrespect to you, but I am NOT having this discussion anymore. I've said my piece, feel free to read up and all around. :cheers:
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With respect back your posts are longwinded and convulted, I'm simply too tired to dicepher them.

Spend less time typing and more time driving, you won't need that 'magic' tune that way :cheers:
 
Johnnypenso
Tuning is not guesswork if you know what you're doing. Certain things work a certain way and the skill comes in what you tradeoff vs what you get and adapting that to your own personal driving style. You're right though it's not reality based, but it does work within it's own parameters quite effectively. Depending on the car/track combination a good tune can easily net you 1 full second or more, depending on how the car is stock or relative to a poor tune.
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Couldn't agree more, I've used a few of your tunes and am quicker using a stock one.



bluecharger
I hear you, gr8888t mate:cheers: I hope more can see that I CAN have a sense of humour about most all of this, but it's hard when faced with absolute denial of some realities.
If PD would give up an update that added more grind races I'd go away and leave it ALL alone:sly::lol::cheers:
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You are in denial of some realities? Ok, but thats your problem, not ours :cheers:
 
On GT5 I would plug away at every seasonal until I finally got gold, probably because the payouts are lousy, and generally credits are harder to earn on GT6 I don't bother so much with the seasonals on GT6.

After a few laps without success now I usually give up at bronze or silver and ponder how much I could have earned just grinding on single player instead of wasting time for a lousy payout on seasonals.

And the one's where I have to buy a car are just ignored .
 
In comparison to the GT5 seasonals, I'm quite glad it's abit tougher, stops me from losing focus due to the large room for error in GT5's seasonal events had in my opinion.

I can understand the complaints though, people have other commitments and don't have a ton of spare time chasing hard to reach times.
 
Like it or not , GT6 is a game, look up 'GT6' anywhere and it tells you that.

Can't actually think where it's going now though, certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone, if I wanted to spend loads of time studying and getting better at something, I certainly wouldn't waste my time on a game.
 
Zenmervolt
I can't agree with this. While tuning does make cars faster they certainly aren't anywhere near being "undrivable" in stock form.
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PD HAS been fixing things on the sly, and as I go back through my earlier purchases I'm finding things not quite as bad as I remembered. :cheers:
 
bluecharger
PD HAS been fixing things on the sly, and as I go back through my earlier purchases I'm finding things not quite as bad as I remembered. :cheers:
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Even on version 1.0 I didn't find any cars underivable, at least not as long as you didn't invoke the wheel width bug by buying aftermarket wheels. :-)
 
bluecharger
There are many things discussed and argued on GTP far more pointless than this and you know it. I was honestly taken aback by going to the Seasonal update threads thinking there'd be reports of those "on top" and discussions of the difficulty/ease of the different venues/eligible cars. I even pathetically posted about my own little self-powered best effort. I can't be the last "honest" player that sees anything slightly askew about this. I thought such things would be limited to the tuning threads. And you're right, there's likely no end to it; those that choose to take the easy way will just put me on ignore and I'll bother them no more. I truly meant no disrespect to Cargo as he seems to have taken my recent posts, and the primary reason for me posting on the Peugeot thread at all was some lame hope that those stepping over my head on the work of others might feel a touch of self-reliance and abstain. His misreading of my quoting a couple of key phrases will likely get me on lots of ignore lists, but all I can do is either allow the cheats to run me off, or keep highlighting the hypocrisy of begging for competitive content and then scampering off to the nearest online garage for a cheater tune. Given my attitude about it, do you see why I was a bit irked to see a call for MORE acknowledgment for top-anything? On the one hand, I'm told "we play it like a REAL simulator", on the other, "oh, it's just all fun and games". One of these statements is not true when it comes from the same people. Can anyone on here stop covering their asses long enough to understand that?
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I really have no idea what your argument is. Do you think pro race drivers sit there tinkering with their cars all night before a race? No, their job is to drive fast and get a certain time. Others do the leg work to get the car prepared for the driver. Other people may enjoy that aspect of the game, but a lot just want to drive, and if someone else has done the tuning of the car I would hardly call it cheating. Nearly every team has a crew to do all the tuning for them.

Seems to me you just want to get on a soapbox about it because you do your own tuning, so what? Just because you do it, everyone should conform to your way of life? Get real.
 
I haven't read this 6-page thread, but I can tell you that getting gold on a Seasonal Challenge is no challenge at all with tuning. If you take the car they are wanting you to use, add the hp limit for the race, and race it just like that, it's DIFFICULT to get gold. 10-100 laps for sure. If you use one of the tunes available on this board, 2-5 laps easy.
 
UltimateLurker
I haven't read this 6-page thread, but I can tell you that getting gold on a Seasonal Challenge is no challenge at all with tuning. If you take the car they are wanting you to use, add the hp limit for the race, and race it just like that, it's DIFFICULT to get gold. 10-100 laps for sure. If you use one of the tunes available on this board, 2-5 laps easy.
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Don't agree about having a 'tune' makes it that much easier, I used a practically stock tune on the london TT and got over 5 seconds inside the gold time.
 
Dusty1990
Don't agree about having a 'tune' makes it that much easier, I used a practically stock tune on the london TT and got over 5 seconds inside the gold time.
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Practically stock? And I'm not saying there aren't exceptions, I'm just saying that with no tuning, these challenges are a lot harder.
 
Zenmervolt
Even on version 1.0 I didn't find any cars underivable, at least not as long as you didn't invoke the wheel width bug by buying aftermarket wheels. :-)
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Uh....well.....hmmmm....It was largely RUFs and Audis and Vipers and such I was having problems with.....and of COURSE I changed wheels! And I thought camber worked til about March something....soooooo:boggled::lol::cheers:

Subsist? Try not to post to the LAST thing you see if you're not going to go back, and don't assume everybody lacks a moral compass. You were correct, though: "I really have no idea".
 
The 1986 MR2 is still largely undrivable stock IMO :lol:. Thing is crazy and nothing like the one I've been in.
 
bluecharger
Uh....well.....hmmmm....It was largely RUFs and Audis and Vipers and such I was having problems with.....and of COURSE I changed wheels! And I thought camber worked til about March something....soooooo:boggled::lol::cheers:
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Ahh, yeah, the wheel width issue would have done it. For the first few iterations if you changed the wheels then the width of the front tires was used for all four. Even if the car originally had rear wheels that were wider than the front ones. Which is the case for the Rufs and the Vipers.

IMO, GT6 renders the "twitchiness" of rear-engine and short wheelbase mid-engine cars far better than GT5. However that also means those cars are more difficult to drive in GT6 than they were in GT5.
 
Nish
The 1986 MR2 is still largely undrivable stock IMO :lol:. Thing is crazy and nothing like the one I've been in.
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Haha. I thought I'd take a shot at tuning this a couple of months ago because it was a pretty good car in GT5. Holy cow!!! It has no grip in the rear end!!! I was going to post something about it but figured I'd just get the usual, "you can't drive" and "nothing is wrong with it because look I finished a lap with comfort hards" etc. ..:banghead:
 
I'd say you are a very capable driver, that car is just insane. I will now be trying to tune it tonight though because it was brought up. :lol: I've only driven it stock in the past and all my tuned cars need to be given real weight distributions if I tune them. Hope it doesn't make it worse :nervous:. I used to always but the green and beige one on pre GT5 GT's.
 

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