Why does my Gallardo twitch under brakes?

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Hi all,

Have a Lambo that's been slightly tricked up, minimal tuning however, it's got great power though under brakes it wants to pull left or right effectivly making it unusable. Anything other than tapping the brakes quickly just puts it into a slide, does anybody know how to fix this?
 
I won a Gallardo in some event and once I tried it I was completely disgusted due to this braking instability.

I eventually gifted it to a friend cause I did not want to see again this car. Get the 430 Scuderia - it handles and sounds brilliantly...
 
Basically, my experience is that Lamborghinis, regardless of what Jeremy Clarkson may say, are garbage under braking. The only one that doesn't try to swap ends as viciously as the 111R in the Top Gear Challenge is the Miura Prototype.

If you're using it for anything but the Gallardo Challenge or Lamborghini Challenge, then just get a Ferrari 458 or 430 Scuderia; they're much better cars in pretty much every way.
 
I've found it helps if you don't get out of the gas until after you have applied the brakes. Just apply the brake while you are still on the gas and then after you have applied the brake slowly get out of the gas. This is easy if you have a wheel or are using R2/L2 for gas/brake, but much harder if you are using x/square or the right analog stick.
 
Couldn't you just adjust your driving style a little, be more smooth with the brakes and thinker a little bit with the brake bias?
 
1. Brake in a straight line.
2. If you have to brake whilst turning, take some steering lock off.
3. Don't brake so hard i.e. 100% brake. If the car twitches and you start sliding, you may as well have just applied 60-70% brake.

Changing the brake bias will help a little too. :)👍
 
I have also noticed that all the 4wd Lambos are massively unstable under braking. Put an adjustible LSD on it, increase force under braking or whatever it is called, and problem solved. Works very well for other high powered 4wd cars which are twitchy under braking, for example Delta S4, Peugeot 205 evoII etc.
 
I had this problem with my Gallardo and although it started off as a relatively minor fault that I could drive around with a bit of skill, it gradually got worse as I upgraded the power of the car.

Me, personally solved it by going into GT Auto and buying the small spoiler (colour coded one). It makes the world of difference to stability under braking, trust me. And it looks pretty decent too actually :)

Hope that helps. Might be worth a shot.
 
Aderrrm
1. Brake in a straight line.
2. If you have to brake whilst turning, take some steering lock off.
3. Don't brake so hard i.e. 100% brake. If the car twitches and you start sliding, you may as well have just applied 60-70% brake.

Changing the brake bias will help a little too. :)👍
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From what I've read in reputable motoring magazines Lambo's do behave like this in real life as the big heavy engine wants to overtake you under braking. The engine in the Murci replacement is mounted much lower to make it more stable while braking so if it's ever in a GT game then you'll be able to see if PD did get it right.
 
Aderrrm
1. Brake in a straight line.
2. If you have to brake whilst turning, take some steering lock off.
3. Don't brake so hard i.e. 100% brake. If the car twitches and you start sliding, you may as well have just applied 60-70% brake.

Changing the brake bias will help a little too. :)👍
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Love the Gallardo , its a great Car for having fun with and being 4WD its suprising how good it is .

Sounds Crap with a Non Standard Exhaust though which is a Tad Annoying :grumpy:
 
usually if my car is doing this id think about buying a LSD differential. yuo can play with the diff during breaking and this should help.
This and adjusting your brake power and application patterns.
 
rdfox
Basically, my experience is that Lamborghinis, regardless of what Jeremy Clarkson may say, are garbage under braking. The only one that doesn't try to swap ends as viciously as the 111R in the Top Gear Challenge is the Miura Prototype.

If you're using it for anything but the Gallardo Challenge or Lamborghini Challenge, then just get a Ferrari 458 or 430 Scuderia; they're much better cars in pretty much every way.
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Agree. Can't think of the Gallardo as just a AWD Ferrari. Straight-line braking will get you through the A-Spec races but if you're looking for all-out speed, the adjustable LSD should help.
 
rdfox
Basically, my experience is that Lamborghinis, regardless of what Jeremy Clarkson may say, are garbage under braking. The only one that doesn't try to swap ends as viciously as the 111R in the Top Gear Challenge is the Miura Prototype.
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Jeremy Clarkson (and, by extension, Top Gear) is not a reliable source of information, he's the Wikipedia of motoring knowledge. The Murcielago is known for having it's big, heavy V12 mounted fairly high in the chassis, meaning that when you brake (or even lift off the accelerator) the rear axle suddenly goes light, very light indeed. I think in real life they probably have a certain degree of electronic control to stop it swapping ends which results in fairly good cornering ability (take the Lancia Stratos or even the ethos behind the Eurofighter 2000; the best way to change direction is to be inherently unstable).

Not sure about the Gallardo to be honest, but that was all I needed to know as far as the Murcielago's tendency to swap ends is concerned. I found my Gallardo to be a handful at first (it would do full 360's almost every time I lifted off to corner), but when I learned that it's very sensitive to pedal changes during a corner and adjusted the brake bias to 7/3, I get on with it a lot better now.
 
AWD aside, the Galardo is a mid-engine car, and the back-end will want to come out on you if you're not paying attention to what you're doing under braking -- especially into a corner. As has been mentioned, adjust your brake bias and your braking habits, and you'll find that it's a very well-mannered car.
 
Thanks guys, have a few options to go with here, i'l try them and let you know how i go.

Just to address some of the points raised;

- I do own a fully modded/tuned 458, IMHO its the best car i've used thus far, i love it.

- Lambo braking in a straight line still pulls out of line, which is frustrating, i'll try a few of the tips above and see if i can get it to stop that

- Jeremy Clarkson is great, it annoys me when ppl rag on him cause he adds a bit of humour and entertainment to car reviews.
 
The Lambos are unstable under braking because brakes are, for some reason, hyper-sensitive in all the Lambo's in GT5. Because the brakes are so sensitive, the wheels lock too soon and once that happens the car will become unstable.

Solution? Just put ABS to 5.

If you like driving with ABS off, then make sure you only feather the brakes and never apply more pressure than that.

P.S: The Ferraris are quick but the Lambos are way more fun to drive. Trust me!
 
I always thought it was the cause of letting up on the gas completely which locks up the rear and spins the car out. If you keep a little throttle on while braking it won't tail spin. There's a name for it in racing but I forgot what it is. Anyone know the name for that?
 
IndyRacer
I always thought it was the cause of letting up on the gas completely which locks up the rear and spins the car out. If you keep a little throttle on while braking it won't tail spin. There's a name for it in racing but I forgot what it is. Anyone know the name for that?
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Lift-off oversteer ?
 
Berserker26
- Jeremy Clarkson is great, it annoys me when ppl rag on him cause he adds a bit of humour and entertainment to car reviews.
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I don't know about anyone else, but I do it out of jealousy.

Anywho, keep at it -- minor quirks aside, the Gallardo is a very good 'point-and-squirt' car.
 

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