Why I Hate Jesse James

[Anderton Prime]

Indian Larry was killed not too long ago in a motorcycle accident. And here's Jesse James riding around with a winter hat as a helmet. I hope he doesn't think people think he's cool, because I think he's a loser.

The badass image is old and played, Jesse. No one cares if you're a descendant of the real Jesse James. All you do on Monster Garage is complain how all the projects are lame or stupid, throw your weight around ("This is my show, you don't like it or you don't want to follow my rules, get the hell out.") and show off your skills with the metal roller.

You want to see a real god? His name is CHIP FOOSE. He runs the show on Overhaulin' and he's worth 10 Jesse James any day. I've never seen him get angry, stress out about time, threaten anyone under his command, or do anything but laugh and smile and joke around.

The clip from Monster Garage where they drop the Hearse into the metal muncher machine and it explodes, and Jesse's staring into the camera with that stupid badass look he has, and wooo, he doesn't even flinch when the car explodes, isn't he a badass?

Hey badass? Kiss my a$$.

 

[milefile]

Quit whining. Your TV has more than one channel, right? Try watching something you like, instead.

 

[Anderton Prime]

Quit whining. Your TV has more than one channel, right? Try watching something you like, instead.

QUIT WHINING?! That's what the forums are for! I'll whine until I'm blue in the face, thank-you very much!

I used to watch Monster Garage because it was the only car show that wasn't about racing or putting lift kits on pickup trucks. But now there are a whole bunch of way better shows.

What sparked this rant is that it's Bike Week on Discovery Channel, and the whole thing seems to be about Jesse James. I want to see some other builders, and instead I'm forced to watch this overgrown loser get married (yeah, he was dressed all in black, wow, badass!). Honestly, the guy tries so hard at being bad, he ends up looking stupid.

By the way, milefile, I could have just told you to stop telling me what to do...GTP has more than one forum, right? Try going into one you're interested in. I made the title of this thread QUITE explanatory, so if people didn't want to read about WHY I HATE JESSE JAMES, they'd know not to come in at all.

So there.

 

[milefile]

I can't even stand the commercials for Monster Garage. And Overhaulin' just seems to ruin cars. I mean, if I had that much money to spend on a car with potential I wouldn't be buying blingin' spinner rims and a DVD player.

I think there is a show (on Home and Garden Channel of all places) where they actually restore classic cars, which to me, is much more interesting and fun to watch.

 

[Anderton Prime]

I can't even stand the commercials for Monster Garage. And Overhaulin' just seems to ruin cars. I mean, if I had that much money to spend on a car with potential I wouldn't be buying blingin' spinner rims and a DVD player.

I think there is a show (on Home and Garden Channel of all places) where they actually restore classic cars, which to me, is much more interesting and fun to watch.

I don't think Overhaulin' ruins cars at all. they not only restore the body and repaint the car, they always replace the suspension and either modify or replace the engine altogether. Also the cars all get new upholsteries.

On this week's show they took an old Dodge Challenger (painted Lime Green) and re-did it to bring it up to par. It was by far the best restoration they ever did; the car looked a lot like Foose's original conceptual drawing for it.

I've never seen them install a DVD player in any of their cars. Pimp My Ride is the show with the Spinners and the 20" flat-screens. But even Xzibit (or however the hell you spell his moniker) is more fun to watch than Jesse James. That's right, I'd take a wannabe gangsta rappa over Jesse every time.

The only thing I don't like about Overhaulin' is the female co-host. She's not even that attractive and her voice is annoying. But I guess they wanted it to be 50/50 hosts for both sexes (though my girlfriend won't watch the show no matter what!)

 

[TwinTurboJay]

Anderton, what overhauling does is not considered restoration...they cars they produce are under the the genre of "resto-mods" because they do not restore the vehicles to their original specs, they modify bumpers / fenders / interiors. It is a very popular market, but "real" resoration guru's have big problems with the resto-mods.

 

[Anderton Prime]

Anderton, what overhauling does is not considered restoration...they cars they produce are under the the genre of "resto-mods" because they do not restore the vehicles to their original specs, they modify bumpers / fenders / interiors. It is a very popular market, but "real" resoration guru's have big problems with the resto-mods.

Yeah I know but I find it more interesting than regular restoration, which can be quite boring. There's both a market and an audience for this type of work, and I find the end products to be more attractive, since they look like they belong on the roads of the present-day but still have some of their classic look to them...

 

[TwinTurboJay]

I would def. have to agree with you there....how about that mustang fastback they re-did with the classic shelby racing colours !! Thats was deadly !

 

[Klostrophobic]

Both shows are absolute ****, though. Overhaulin' is as bad as Pimp My Ride, and Monster Garage just sucks.

At least with Monster Garage you can see them fail occassionally.

 

[TwinTurboJay]

Overhauling is nothing like pimp my ride ...Chip Foose is a master designer and creates his own exteriors/ rims-everything. Pimp my ride is a installer show ( they do body work too though) thats about it

 

[Klostrophobic]

But his exteriors look terrible. I can't tell you anything I like that he's ever created.

 

[milefile]

I love when theytake an old car, like a 69 Boss or something, and restore it to showroom condition, like the day it rolled off the lot. I've seen some modified Muscle cars that look cool, and there's a lot that can be improved about them mechanically. But it has to be tasteful and an enhancement of what it was before, not an abomination, as far as appearance goes, that is. Mechanically they can be made much faster and to handle much better. But it's not waht it was anymore, and what it was, was awesome already.

 

[Ethix101]

I like Jesse James. He builds nice bikes. He builds nice cars. That's enough for me.

As for him riding without a helmet after Indian Larry died...who cares? If I heard correctly, Indian Larry died because he was standing on his seat or some dumb crap like that and fell. It sucks that he died, but he shouldn't have been riding like an idiot.



-Mark

 

[king jame II]

The only thing I don't like about Overhaulin' is the female co-host. She's not even that attractive and her voice is annoying.

Oh man, im so disappointed in you! That chick is hot. Even better is that she has that scratchy porn star voice. God Bless.

But his exteriors look terrible.

Well, i'll tell you one thing. He isnt the best in the business for no reason. Foose's work is spectacular. Not only are his drawings works of art, but the car itself when done is always beautiful. Of course, we all have our own opinions on that, so we'll leave that be.

Overhaulin' has gotten alot better as the show has progressed. More sponsors helps them make their cars shine. Great mechanics on that show too. Cant deny the skill those people have.
James-

 

[Klostrophobic]

I'm not denying that they have skill, I'm denying that they have taste. And without taste, what good is skill?

 

[Anderton Prime]

Oh man, im so disappointed in you! That chick is hot. Even better is that she has that scratchy porn star voice. God Bless.

It just seems that car shows are latelt trying too hard to include a female element. When I'm watching a car show, the cars themselves are offering enough beauty already. When I watch them bring the shine and lustre back to a Mustang fastback, I'm already looking at sex on four wheels. I don't need some cheap dime-store floozy with a ****-me voice and a tight shirt to arouse me further.

Then there's "Horsepower TV" on Spike here in Canada, and everytime you return from a commercial break there's this bit-titted bimbo who knows less about cars than I do trying to trick me into thinking she's a grease-monkey with a great ass.

"Hey welcome back! Let's check in on our boys as they prepare to lift that Bronco..."

Give me a break. It's a waste of time and it actually annoys me.

 

[Nemo2]

i hate him too.

 

[Gil]

It just seems that car shows are latelt trying too hard to include a female element. When I'm watching a car show, the cars themselves are offering enough beauty already. When I watch them bring the shine and lustre back to a Mustang fastback, I'm already looking at sex on four wheels. I don't need some cheap dime-store floozy with a ****-me voice and a tight shirt to arouse me further.

Then there's "Horsepower TV" on Spike here in Canada, and everytime you return from a commercial break there's this bit-titted bimbo who knows less about cars than I do trying to trick me into thinking she's a grease-monkey with a great ass.

"Hey welcome back! Let's check in on our boys as they prepare to lift that Bronco..."

Give me a break. It's a waste of time and it actually annoys me.

If you're reffering to Danica, she knows enough about cars to race and win in them. Of course, she isn't that "chesty"... (anyway, on with the rebuttal)

I prefer "Overhauling" except for the part about some poor guy or gal getting played for a week over their precious sentimental vehicle.
While I would prefer to see my old T-bird returned to factory fresh...I am not opposed to it being "Foosed".
For instance, every car that I've seen "overhauled" has left the shop with huge disc brakes. My 'bird came stock with power drums, that went to "Fade city" after a few minutes of hard use. It's hard to stop a 5,000 lb car on a twisty mountain road with stock drums. (Just trust me on this, and don't try this at home kids)
The 'bird also came with an AM radio stock, and no A/C. Let's not forget that the stock heads don't have hardened valve seats and can't handle today's pump gas.

Foose and company take care of all that. Yes, the car comes back in true "car show" style. But it could, in most cases be driven every day. Would you really want to drive a donut maker disguised as a police car? Or how about the "fold-out wrestling ring"?

I like that Jesse James is about turning out some automotive, and motorcycle art. But I'm not taken with his designs. But then, I'm not usually taken by the Tuetels' designs either. But I ain't "hatin" cause they are getting paid.

Try this, find your niche, and get paid too.

Don't complain cause someone else is living their dream and get paid to do it. Go ye and do likewise.

 

[PublicSecrecy]

#1. Pimp My Ride is the worst show on earth, theyre just a bunch of stupid ricers with no practicallity in mind. Who the hell is going to use a camera attached to their sun visor or a makeup kit that pulls out of their trunk?
#2. Jesse James doesnt just b!tch and complain about people not doing anything, its usually the people that are introduced to the show that start al the problems and cant get along.
#3. Jesse James is very busy with West Cost Choppers and as he once said "i just know how to weld stuff and make it loud". If you've actually watched Monster Garage he pulls a lot of strings and is under a hi-stress job. He wants to see his projects succeed but ultimately he doesnt care about who does or doesnt work because Discovery Channel pays him anyway.
#4. Jesse a bad-ass? Its those stupid and annoying anouncers tha make him out to be like that. He just doesn't care about dick-all.

 

[Anderton Prime]

No, Jesse does like to think of himself as a badass. I watched some special on him where he got married (or re-married I'm not sure) and had to show up in his black chopped-top car that was WAY too loud and obnoxious for a wedding. He also, of course, wore all black, which looked great with his tattoo sleeves.

Also, there are PLENTY of times on the show where Jesse himself acts like a complete a$$hole and it has nothing to do with those announcers (Schwag and someone...??!!) He hates people having a little fun on the show, and many times he has said ON CAMERA how stupid he thinks the projects are. He calls guest builders on his show lazy and stupid often enough for it not to be funny anymore. On one occasion he smashed a little metal flower that had been made by one of the female builders to bits because it was "lame-looking." Real nice guy? Nope, A$$HOLE.

What he cares about is finishing the project, and he'll be rude as hell to accomplish it. He's cranky and mad 50% of the time. My original comparison between him and Chip Foose was regarding this matter. Namely, how he treats others on his show and how little Chip is ever stressed out. He's a nice guy who's always smiling, doesn't let his reputation precede him or his image carry him. He's got messed up hair and bags under his eyes EVERY show, because he's there all night with the builders. Jesse James, on the other hand, is always the first one to go home at night and when he returns in the morning he's primped and polished, and of course ready to get mad at someone if the previous night hasn't produced enough to show...

You're right, Jesse doesn't do much except weld a little here and there. His choppers are nice but nothing special; at least Paul Sr. and Jr. make something interesting and different every show (even if they're fighting with each other all the time).

 

[xcsti]

He's a nice guy who's always smiling, doesn't let his reputation precede him or his image carry him. He's got messed up hair and bags under his eyes EVERY show, because he's there all night with the builders. Jesse James, on the other hand, is always the first one to go home at night and when he returns in the morning he's primped and polished, and of course ready to get mad at someone if the previous night hasn't produced enough to show...

I completely agree with you, almost every show you see foose looking like he has been through hell, but he still is smiling and cracking jokes with the other crew members. Foose truly appreciates his crew mates, more than some stupid tool boxes and cds could ever make up for.

 

[Anderton Prime]

Oh I know...and you can't blame a TV show for misrepresenting Jesse James...if he was unhappy with how the commentators were making him out to be, he'd have said something. Those Monster Garage CDs are crap. I wonder if they have that wonderfully creative theme song for the show, which can be heard at the beginning ("Monster, Monster Garage....Monster, Monster Garage....Monster, Monster Garage") and at the end during the credits, while some idiot with an electric guitar thrashes around the set playing it. It's honestly one of the worst TV show songs ever. Heck, The Golden Girls had a better song.

 

[TwinTurboJay]

erm....I hate to be a negative nelly ( a la Ned Flanders ) but monster garage theme song is much better than golden girls's...and If you ever say that again, I will have to hunt you down and beat your Neo lovin A$$ !!!! ( j/k)

I'll probably just bad mouth you in a few posts and then forget about it

 

[Anderton Prime]

erm....I hate to be a negative nelly ( a la Ned Flanders ) but monster garage theme song is much better than golden girls's...and If you ever say that again, I will have to hunt you down and beat your Neo lovin A$$ !!!! ( j/k)

I'll probably just bad mouth you in a few posts and then forget about it

Well, I might be inclined to at least see your point if the Monster Garage theme had at least more than two words in the whole damned thing, but since it doesn't, I can't even consider it a song.

At least the Golden Girls song had words you could learn and sing along with...

Thank-you for being a friend
Travel 'round the world and back again.
Your heart is true
You're a pal and a confidant.

And if you threw a party
Invited everyone you knew
You would see
The biggest gift would be from me.
And the card attached would say

Thank-you for being a friend.

Now that's a great TV song. The show wasn't that great (except for parents and old ladies), but the theme was, at the very least, a song.
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[Pupik]

I think there is a show (on Home and Garden Channel of all places) where they actually restore classic cars, which to me, is much more interesting and fun to watch.

And it's actually quite useful in the real world of automotive service, too. I don't exactly get customers asking for eight tailpipes and a barbeque flipping out of thier RX300.

I couldn't care less about any of these car and bike customizers that cop an attitude for the camera. They have a life, yet they act as if they don't have one.