Why the hell do people want endurance-saves???

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I personally wouldn't mind, I never plan to do another endurance race due to an unfortunate ending to the Tsukuba 9 Hour race.
 
EliteDreamer
I didn't bother reading the flaming going on above. ;) Here's my view:

I agree with him. 100%. And then there are those of you who say "One man doesn't do 24 hours alone." That's due to exhaustion. Now, do you really get that much exhaustion from using a DS3? If your using a wheel that's your own fault. 24 Hours isn't that hard. I haven't done any of 'em yet but I have played well over 24 hours with limited break. If you can't handle it, don't complain. If you want race saves, go somewhere else. Race saves are stupid, so is pausing the game.

Then there are those who say, "I have a job" or something with the family. I get it, but if your too busy, deal with it. You won't be able to do the race then. Too bad for you.

Then some have to bring up the "It's not really a simulator" deal. Well, it isn't I'll admit that. But it's fun to keep things to the best of the games capabilities.

Someone mentioned if PD should just take away the pause feature, I wish they did.

This is what I think, flame me if you wish. This thread won't last much longer.
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This is the funniest post I have ever read on any forum :)

I hope you're not posting from work because I know CERN don't like you using their computers for personal use while you're working in the lab :sly:
 
I've done the 24 hr solo and it honestly isn't that hard. To get around the unhealthy situations and needing to go to the toilet the aim was to build up a big enough lead that should I need a personal break I could pull up by pit entrance, do the business and return still either in the lead or in contention. Talking about doing enduros like they'll cause diseases or kill you is just utter crap, use your brains....
 
MitchZ06
I've done the 24 hr solo and it honestly isn't that hard. To get around the unhealthy situations and needing to go to the toilet the aim was to build up a big enough lead that should I need a personal break I could pull up by pit entrance, do the business and return still either in the lead or in contention. Talking about doing enduros like they'll cause diseases or kill you is just utter crap, use your brains....
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hmm well that is very sim. I'm sure that happens all the time in the real world?

I am now preparing to eat my hat, socks and scants, when the list of links appears :)
 
EliteDreamer
Enlighten me with a lovely link please.
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Not surprised you haven't heard it.

I mean, Kaz has only been talking about mid-race saves coming for 6 months now after admitting not having them from the start was a bad idea and apologizing for it, so its hard to imagine how you could have gotten told the news.
 
I disagree. Not everybody is a racing driver, we can't just sit and race on our PS3 for 24 hours straight. Many of us have families, jobs (or school) and other commitments which stop it being physically possible to run through the whole 24 hours.

The only other option is to pause the game and leave the PS3 running, which seems to be the most popular way of completing these races. However, this can have pretty bad side effects. It uses up a lot of power, and there's a good chance of it significantly shortening the life of your PS3. I bet you, GODfreyGT5, used the pausing method...

In the end, in-race saves achieve the same thing as pausing: splitting up the race into bitesize chunks, but in-race saves prevent you from burning up your PS3 in the process :sly:
 
I don't see where the problem lies. If you don't like saves and have that much free time to spare be my guest. I just don't see why my enjoyment of the game in single player using saves would interfere with your enjoyment of the game. Knock yourself out and race for 100 hours for all I care.
 
Cosbuster
I don't see where the problem lies. If you don't like saves and have that much free time to spare be my guest. I just don't see why my enjoyment of the game in single player using saves would interfere with your enjoyment of the game. Knock yourself out and race for 100 hours for all I care.
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Because you are playing it wrong, and therefore you must be punished accordingly.
 
Toronado
Not surprised you haven't heard it.

I mean, Kaz has only been talking about mid-race saves coming for 6 months now after admitting not having them from the start was a bad idea and apologizing for it, so its hard to imagine how you could have gotten told the news.
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I do know about it. I thought they were being implemented due to the whiny fans. Not because Kaz wanted it in.
 
[] - Still lives with mommy and daddy.
[] - Has no life.
[] - Has a job and/or family to take care of.
[] - Just doesn't want to sit 24h straight.
[] - Just wants 100% completion.

Pick your answers, multiple answers possible.
 
EliteDreamer
I didn't bother reading the flaming going on above...
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You do realize that most people - like me stoped reading your post right there??? 💡 If you didnt read how do expect to try and understand other people thoughts? why bother when your always right, right???
 
EliteDreamer
I do know about it. I thought they were being implemented due to the whiny fans. Not because Kaz wanted it in.
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Carrying the implication, of course, that Kaz would implement this in the first place if he didn't want it in the game.
 
tribolik
You do realize that most people - like me stoped reading your post right there??? 💡 If you didnt read how do expect to try and understand other people thoughts? why bother when your always right, right???
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Sorry. I meant to edit that out. I put that first because I really didn't want to read it all. But then after posting I read it all anyways after some thought. I should've edited it out.

Dennisch
Pick your answers, multiple answers possible.
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[Check] - Still lives with mommy and daddy.
[] - Has no life.
[] - Has a job and/or family to take care of.
[] - Just doesn't want to sit 24h straight.
[] - Just wants 100% completion

... Define life. In terms your using it by.
 
GODfreyGT5
I've seen countless times, people begging and begging for in-race saves so they can complete the 24hr Nurb race, but this is just pathetic. The point of the 24h, is that it IS a very hard race, for the extreme's of racing simulation. GT5 is built as a sim, let it stay like that. If the 24 hours of racing is too much for you? then its too much, end of. Don't go crying because you cant nab trophy you always wanted.

Allowing the saves would mean that any little brat and his X2010 could complete it. We don't want Kaz wasting his time with this petty feature when he could be working on bringing all the old tracks back.
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Lets see

1. i have a life
2.dont want to put the wear on ps3 (this is my 2nd one)
3.need i say more
 
ELITEDREAMER knows what he's talking about.

I'm not planning on completing one of tbese races anutime soon, my nag is that those people who HAVE done these events single handed should be the ones who hold the prize of that gold trophy. It's a known fact, that it is near impossible for every other player to have the option to atempt the race, due to whatever limitations.
 
GODfreyGT5
No, I have not completed a 24hr race on GT5.

The whole idea of 24hr races is to show extreme levels of commitment and dedication.

I just feel that adding the feature of saves would kill it's impact alltogether.
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The idea of the 24 race is to race for 24 hours. Whether its hard or not, a strain on one's ability to stay awake or not, or any such thing is up to the player to decide.

And, for the sake of realism, mid race saves are a requirement, because racing for 24 hour straight is something in the realm of fantasy, especially when the rules for the 24 hour races in game make driving for 24 hour illegal.


EliteDreamer
If you want race saves, go somewhere else.
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Normally, this is one of the stupidest remakes a person can make in a topic like this. But it gets taken to a whole new level when the game itself will have the feature that apparently requires "going elsewhere" to get. Unless PD outright lies, GT is getting saves. You need to go elsewhere to get your unrealistic and needlessly restrictive endurance races, not anyone else.
 
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GODfreyGT5
ELITEDREAMER knows what he's talking about.

I'm not planning on completing one of tbese races anutime soon, my nag is that those people who HAVE done these events single handed should be the ones who hold the prize of that gold trophy. It's a known fact, that it is near impossible for every other player to have the option to atempt the race, due to whatever limitations.
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There is nothing hard about hitting the pause button and race the 24 hour race in a number of days. The only real difference between pause and mid-race save is you can turn off your PS3 which would save power and your PS3 hardware.
 
EliteDreamer
it's not realistic. :)
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Just like doing LeMans in a single stint.

EliteDreamer
I do know about it. I thought they were being implemented due to the whiny fans. Not because Kaz wanted it in.
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As if it matters what Kaz wanted. Race saves are coming. So no one who's opposed to the unrealistic 24 hr events available now have to go anywhere.
 
EliteDreamer
We're not saying it's hard. We're saying it's not realistic. :)
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Can you explain exactly what isn't realistic?

Pausing in a 24hr race
Saving in a 24hr race
Or actually doing a 24hr race single handed (which has apparently been done, but mandatory 4 hour stops are now enforced)

So do you want to simulate real 24hr races (ie mandatory 4hr max stints) or not?
 
Pausing is not realistic.
Saving is not realistic.
24 hours in one go is not realistic.

So let's either have a petition to remove endurance events altogether or we can just let each other pick whichever of the 3 options they prefer.
 
EliteDreamer
We're not saying it's hard. We're saying it's not realistic. :)
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Having to race a 24 hour with pausing or saving is not fun. Some things that are realistic are not fun which is why developers tries to leave out some realism from games. Most of the fantasy tracks in games are fun but unrealistic because IRL those tracks would be too dangerous/ unsafe to race.

Even hardcore sims (IIRC including Iracing) has a button to put you back on track if you are completely stopped off the track. This is unrealistic yet trying to dig your car out of the sand trap isn't fun but only design to save lives IRL.
 
Have a limit on how many saves you can do per race, like 6 saves allowed only per 24hr race and pausing is limited to 1hour at a time, after that your car goes to online style auto drive.
 
Zoom!Zoom!
Some things that are realistic are not fun
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That's an opinion not a fact. And if that's all it is, you'd still be able to do fantasy racing if the saves were added. Just don't use the save feature.
 
EliteDreamer
We're not saying it's hard. We're saying it's not realistic. :)
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Even if one-stint endurances races were realistic, GT5 still isn't remotely realistic enough in the first place to justify using that as an excuse to not have it.

R.S
Have a limit on how many saves you can do per race, like 6 saves allowed only per 24hr race and pausing is limited to 1hour at a time, after that your car goes to online style auto drive.
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There is no reason for these restrictions to be implemented.

PirateThom
without the ability to do anything else in the game until you either complete or exit the race.
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Nor these.
 
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