Why was the standing starts removed?

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It happened a long time ago I know, but why are there now only rolling starts?
 
It happened a long time ago I know, but why are there now only rolling starts?

+1 👍 . I really prefer the standing starts (Just add GT3's race start BGM and it would be perfect)



And to top it off, when you finish a 2 hour endurance race, the GT3 race finish is even more satisfying. PD need to bring standing starts AND these BGM's back.

 
I agree I miss standing starts as well. Man, I miss GT3...used to play that so much. :)
 
I agree I miss standing starts as well. Man, I miss GT3...used to play that so much. :)

I wish I could play GT3 again too.
 
Standing starts are the only option. It isn't very realistic in every case. I want rolling starts.

Oh... you are talking about A-Spec. Sorry... I don't see the point in A-Spec.
 
You don't have to go back to GT3 for standing starts though. Which is why I find it so odd that all of them are gone from races.
 
I think you should have the option for a qualifying lap too.
 
I agree also. I miss standing starts dearly. Wish we can have them back again. :( And those two songs from GT3, are so badass. :D I want those musics back also.
 
gambleboyen
It happened a long time ago I know, but why are there now only rolling starts?


I think you should have the option for a qualifying lap too.

Add this in and you would just improve the game by infinite
 
The standing start was removed in either the 1.05 or 1.06 update, I can't remember exactly which one. I asked the question on another forum and someone speculated that it could be to do with the frame rate capability of the PS3 and that on some starts, you would see stuttering of the picture. I can't say that I had really noticed it, but I had only owned the game for about 3 or 4 weeks before standing starts were eliminated.
 
I miss the way when you win a car it actually shows you. like the cars are under cover then it shows the car. also miss how it gave the trophy at the end of the race.

Also i think PD was trying to make races easier for new comers
 
I miss the standing starts dearly. I hate 1 x 1 rolling start. If its going to be rolling at least make it a complete 2 x 2..
 
that it could be to do with the frame rate capability of the PS3 and that on some starts, you would see stuttering of the picture.

I noticed this just yesterday.
10 Suzuki Swift on Spa. I was on the 8th position in the second race and there was definitely some stuttering as we were driving to eau rouge with 7 Swifts on the screen. I guess this would not happen with a rolling start.

On the other side, it doesnt make sense to keep the standing start in the online mode, if the reason would be the stuttering.
 
I noticed this just yesterday.
10 Suzuki Swift on Spa. I was on the 8th position in the second race and there was definitely some stuttering as we were driving to eau rouge with 7 Swifts on the screen. I guess this would not happen with a rolling start.

On the other side, it doesnt make sense to keep the standing start in the online mode, if the reason would be the stuttering.

This! Also why no start BGM anymore? :( .
 
I would like standing starts too!

That way, I can see if my untuned bugatti veyron can beat the Stig in Top Gear.
 
PD wanted to make racing seem more real since i think real life just offers moving starts.
 
It should have standing starts,it looks better than rolling starts,its more fun than rolling starts,but its not realistic like rolling starts,I loved the good old gt4 starts
 
It should have standing starts,it looks better than rolling starts,its more fun than rolling starts,but its not realistic like rolling starts,I loved the good old gt3 starts

Corrected (in my opinion) :) .
 
I think they removed it just to make offline races less easy, so you can't overtake all the A.I. before the first corner.
 
I think they removed it just to make offline races less easy, so you can't overtake all the A.I. before the first corner.

So you can't pass all the AI cars by the first corner in Clubman Cup using an X2010? You usually only pass a couple at most if running a competitive car, unless slipstreaming comes into play. Having standing starts also gives you the ability to have a MORE competitive race, by using a car that isn't several seconds per lap faster than the AI - especially when coupled with AI that doesn't park(that started around the same time I believe). Racing with a car for 5 laps is much more fun than spending 4.75 laps catching a "time-setter" and cruising past it in the last quarter-lap.

Even if that is the true reason, it's still not a good enough reason. Choppy framerate for the first ten seconds(which I never saw) isn't a good enough reason either.

I think A. Guy complained that he kept getting passed too easily by the players and knew someone important.
 
So you can't pass all the AI cars by the first corner in Clubman Cup using an X2010? You usually only pass a couple at most if running a competitive car, unless slipstreaming comes into play. Having standing starts also gives you the ability to have a MORE competitive race, by using a car that isn't several seconds per lap faster than the AI - especially when coupled with AI that doesn't park(that started around the same time I believe). Racing with a car for 5 laps is much more fun than spending 4.75 laps catching a "time-setter" and cruising past it in the last quarter-lap.

Even if that is the true reason, it's still not a good enough reason. Choppy framerate for the first ten seconds(which I never saw) isn't a good enough reason either.

I think A. Guy complained that he kept getting passed too easily by the players and knew someone important.

This. And if you wanted to challenge yourself, you could use a car that is significantly slower then the rest of the pack. No need to change the standing start.
 
The Formula GT Championship still has standing starts. I guess because F1 has 'em in real life.
 
We should at least have both types of starts and be able to select which one we want when going online or 2 player. Otherwise, the computer decides which start it's gonna be. That's what I want.
 
I want it to be a standing start for all races IMO :ouch: .
 
I think all arcade races have standing starts, don't they?
 
I could deal with rolling start in GT a little better if they were actually done correctly as well, that every car has to wait until it crosses the start line before going full throttle is just daft. The moment the first car crosses that line everyone should be able to go for it, as it stands its just silly.

However a return to standing starts would also highlight the issues GT5 has with cars launching off the line as well, because that's not particularly well done either.


Scaff
 
I could deal with rolling start in GT a little better if they were actually done correctly as well, that every car has to wait until it crosses the start line before going full throttle is just daft. The moment the first car crosses that line everyone should be able to go for it, as it stands its just silly.

However a return to standing starts would also highlight the issues GT5 has with cars launching off the line as well, because that's not particularly well done either.


Scaff

True.

It has been said before, but what would explain that standing starts still exist in online races?
 
True.

It has been said before, but what would explain that standing starts still exist in online races?

Oh they exist on-line because rolling would I imagine be a real pain to try and use, doesn't make launches any more realistic however.


Scaff
 
I don't know the answer to this.

But I do think it's interesting that the 1-make races in practice... and I think the "single race" for custom track races, have standing starts.
 
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