Will Forza Horizon 4's Next Expansion Feature LEGO?

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Northstar
I'm saying it being "unfair to those that didn't buy it" isn't a valid excuse to not do something in the game since people have the choice to buy it or not. If you choose to forgo certain things, you do so with the understanding you will be missing out on some things. It's also why I feel no sympathy for those who can't get prizes that have to be won via online events because they don't have Gold (them being locked behind horribly ran events is another matter).



I wouldn't mind exclusive cars as it would give me a reason to re-visit the expansion maps, which has been one of my biggest gripes with the way Forza does expansions.
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mm i see your point yeah. I agree with prizes on the expansions in order to get people to play them again for sure, but there would be some outrage (as is becoming increasingly a habit lately) about cars being locked behind DLC and such. Hence why It think it's unfair
 
Northstar
I'm saying it being "unfair to those that didn't buy it" isn't a valid excuse to not do something in the game since people have the choice to buy it or not. If you choose to forgo certain things, you do so with the understanding you will be missing out on some things. It's also why I feel no sympathy for those who can't get prizes that have to be won via online events because they don't have Gold (them being locked behind horribly ran events is another matter).



I wouldn't mind exclusive cars as it would give me a reason to re-visit the expansion maps, which has been one of my biggest gripes with the way Forza does expansions.
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Or they could do VIP events like they did with Horizon 3.
 
The Lego map is actually growing on me a bit, mainly because on how it looks. It feels more like a Lego land type of festival at a real-world location rather than just being a full-on Lego world and that's good.
 
Northstar
I'm pretty sure the only thing Drivatars use from their associated account is the license plate.
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They use license plate, favorite car in category, design, visual parts and general behavior (not speed).

RandomCarGuy17
The Lego map is actually growing on me a bit, mainly because on how it looks. It feels more like a Lego land type of festival at a real-world location rather than just being a full-on Lego world and that's good.
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Indeed. I'm surprised people haven't yet realized this is supposed to be an amusement park akin to Thrilltopia!

Hint: the company that runs the Legoland parks is British.
 
RandomCarGuy17
The Lego map is actually growing on me a bit, mainly because on how it looks. It feels more like a Lego land type of festival at a real-world location rather than just being a full-on Lego world and that's good.
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I never thought of it that way. When you view the expansion as the Horizon Festival's take on a Legoland adventure park, it makes a whole lot more sense! 👍
 
RandomCarGuy17
The Lego map is actually growing on me a bit, mainly because on how it looks. It feels more like a Lego land type of festival at a real-world location rather than just being a full-on Lego world and that's good.
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This may be weird but one of my favorite parts of theme parks is the very edge, that area where forest meets the back of roller coasters, where no people are supposed to be walking. I got the same vibe when I was driving around the outside of the LEGO oval race track. And where theme parks have everything exaggerated, that's like LEGO Valley too. Look at it like a theme park and it's fun. I haven't been to a real theme park in a years, and the expansion is triggering memories.
 
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FT-1
I never thought of it that way. When you view the expansion as the Horizon Festival's take on a Legoland adventure park, it makes a whole lot more sense! 👍
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I mean, if the trillionaire behind the festival can build his own Hot Wheels track on a private island, it stands to reason he can afford to buy some scaled up LEGOs and pepper the real landscape with some plastic trees and a fake airport.

The sentient plastic cows, however...
 
So after second FH ultimate edition (3/4) and 4 expansion packs, I'm still waiting to get one I can play the moment it's released. 5 GB preload and when it's supposed to go live, servers go down instead and you have to download 8 more GB. Are you kidding me?

That's about my only negative experience. Map although quite small, is fantastic. Race track and layouts awesome and standard races are mostly high speed with very little cornering. Actually anyone else noticed that it's more difficult to win races in LEGO valley, or are my tunes just not good for top speed?

Edit: Forgot to mention. In regards to comparison with Hotwheels expansion, this is an open world map which would not be that much of a downside for HW, but there is actual roads, no plastic. Oh, how much I hate that plastic, HW could have been much better if you could only steer properly.
 
Just to be clear, the biplane you acquire as you're building your house is not actually flyable, correct?
 
HyperSpeeder
They use license plate, favorite car in category, design, visual parts and general behavior (not speed).
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I really don't think that's correct. If it is, than that must mean that 99% of the people in the game love the Raptor, Escort, and Audi TT.
 
I spent all my spare time Saturday on the base game to get the dailies and weekly challenges out of the way (and to get that beautiful Fiat Dino.) Sunday was spent just goofing around Lego Valley, three-starring all the PR stunts and hunting down bonus boards and alien plants and energy cells. Got the barn find and won the Goliath. Still have the radio on the Awesome Channel. Love hearing all the different DJs announcing the same song over and over again, including "Donny the Twizzle" I think Don Thompson called himself. You could hear just how painful it was for him to say that.
 
Populuxe Cowboy
I spent all my spare time Saturday on the base game to get the dailies and weekly challenges out of the way (and to get that beautiful Fiat Dino.) Sunday was spent just goofing around Lego Valley, three-starring all the PR stunts and hunting down bonus boards and alien plants and energy cells. Got the barn find and won the Goliath. Still have the radio on the Awesome Channel. Love hearing all the different DJs announcing the same song over and over again, including "Donny the Twizzle" I think Don Thompson called himself. You could hear just how painful it was for him to say that.
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It's a great callback to the movie too, because in that world everyone in town just listened to that song all day.

I'm just bummed that they didn't work in a homage to the "Where are my Pants?" TV show.
 
ImaRobot
Can't.. tell.. if... serious?

Either way, I just wish the races were populated with more individuality with the car selections.
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What I meant to say is that the game is supposed to pick the car more likely to be choosen by the player associated to the specific Drivatar (by considering several factors) when seeding the grid. Unfortunately, the mechanism seems to spazz out if any of the cars you mentioned makes its appearance in the list of allowed vehicles for a specific event.
 
ClydeYellow
What I meant to say is that the game is supposed to pick the car more likely to be choosen by the player associated to the specific Drivatar (by considering several factors) when seeding the grid. Unfortunately, the mechanism seems to spazz out if any of the cars you mentioned makes its appearance in the list of allowed vehicles for a specific event.
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Although for some reason it has no issue choosing a good variety of cars in co-op races
 
JR98
Although for some reason it has no issue choosing a good variety of cars in co-op races
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My hypothesis is that whatever index the game uses to choose the cars is thrown off by the Focus, TT and Escort because the vast majority of players pick them when they are offered for free early in the game, and by the Raptor because it is a Forza Loyalty gift in a category few people actually want to spend credits on.

The game doesn't get it right only in co-op races, any race which doesn't allow those four cars will have a decent variety of cars on the grid.
 
Found the rest of the bonus boards and alien energy cells last night. Still have a few races and all the LEGO challenges to go, and my house still has two or three expansions to go, but otherwise I've completed all the important things. Got the Table Flipping challenge completed, thanks for the help, @Vic Reign93. Got the yacht for my house. I love how they just plotz it down in your yard so it's not even in water. Useful.
 
Okay, so I am enjoying the LEGO expansion more than I thought, but not so much the cars. There are only 3 of them (maybe 4 from the barn find, which isn't even available yet?). For an expansion that took this long, this feels underwhelming. Maybe too much time was spent painstakingly putting the map image together and not enough resources into content that actually matters? There is quite a bit of content here, but I'm already almost done with it.

There are many biomes (?) which mixes it up a bit, but feels ultimately cramped in a small space. Brickchester feels cramped and not big at all. The same can be said of the Falcon Circuit. It's really small, but some fun can still be had from it. It's really difficult to find a nice balance of corners and acceleration zones with custom routes. I know LEGO is set in a miniature scale, but the scale itself feels off when you mix in the real car models. I do hope that PG will expand on this idea with circuits in Horizon in the future on larger scales.

Also, has anyone else noticed that cars are understeering more than usual? It's seems to happen mainly in races no matter the time of day or weather. The interaction with certain objects like ramps have become quite awkward and more unpredictable with the trajectory and landing, sometimes with the vehicle catching the lip of the ramp, even in high clearance cars (A.I. seems to be largely unaffected by this).

I do like the fact that PG is paying attention to the details, but there needs to be a balance between quality and content.
 
I finally got around to 100% completing the Lego expansion last night, and man, it really shows how badly Horizon needs to have proper progression in its campaign, like in the first game. A bunch of races with no structure to them and countless random tasks to do isn’t fun. It’s just tedious and repetitive. This expansion is basically just the main game on steroids.
 
Master Weasel
I finally got around to 100% completing the Lego expansion last night, and man, it really shows how badly Horizon needs to have proper progression in its campaign, like in the first game. A bunch of races with no structure to them and countless random tasks to do isn’t fun. It’s just tedious and repetitive. This expansion is basically just the main game on steroids.
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This is not the biggest problem. The game grew in popularity during FH3 era, which was yet another step towards horizontal progression. The people who want a campaign are in the minority and not just in our genre. Single player games are not selling well enough to cover their costs (which is sad since I like them best). I even think EA should forego the story completely for their next NFS since the story has been bringing their games down for a while.

Biggest thing IMO is that the game is being marketed towards children and preteens. Yes, it's true. That's why there's such a push to create exclusive content out of cars that really aren't all that, or to add things to the game that feel completely out of place in it (the VW I.D R for example). That's also why it was strange to see the ESRB "suddenly" caring about the game's songs when it shipped with them in the first place; censorship happened ahead of Lego's release. That's also why most of the arguments in support of the current exclusive system are like, "you're complaining about 15 minutes?!?", when surely enough, some people have trouble even making room for that!

Young people are easier customers. They play more and push numbers more. These young people then become able to pay for cosmetics once they turn eighteen, or once they pester their parents enough to buy stuff for them. Easier to manipulate into the industry model Fortnite has paved the path to.

My theory is that Microsoft is obsessed with popularity, which is why they opened their exclusives to Windows PCs and decided to appeal to the lowest common denominator. We get worse games as a result but, since most people don't really give a damn about bugs/glitches/general complaints, the numbers increase anyway.

Still, there could be a bit of a resurgence in fully-fledged campaigns since the newest COD added it back after it got removed in BO4, and, coming from a majorly online game, it's very significant.
 
First it was lego, then the festival playlists. They are seriously falling off. I used to play daily. I just like rowing gears with my wheel. Cruising or with a convoy but few races. Now knowing the grind to win the prize cars. I don't even remember the last time I played. Smh
 

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