Winter Testing 2014 - Jerez

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Laps completed by each engine manufacturer

Mercedes - 875
Ferrari - 444
Renault - 151

Here's an average; total laps divided by the number of teams using each engine.

Average for Mercedes engined cars - 875 / 4 = 218,75
Average for Ferrari engined cars - 444 / 3 = 148
Average for Renault engined cars - 151 / 3 = 50,33

In this way it looks even more alarming for Renault, if you consider that Lotus wasn't at Jerez at all, maybe with some other problems. There's still a lot of time to recover though, a manufacturer with that experience certainly knows how to build a proper F1 engine. Or power-unit, which is more appropriate nowadays.

A Williams on top isn't so surprising for me, given the lack of sponsors on their livery. Pushing a bit harder than others during pre-season tests is an old trick for teams looking for funds.
Anyway, I'll be pleased if their pace isn't "artificial" and the car will be actually quick at Melbourne. A team with that heritage deserves a lot more than a Maldonado complaining about the team crew sabotaging his car when he was beaten by his rookie team-mate:grumpy:
 
I wonder if the monkey seat could do the same with the car exhaust as the butterfly suspension could do with the diffuser, maybe make more power.
 
Are the drivers not absolutely SPENT after doing 80, 100 or more laps? I imagine not all at once like a race but still...that's quite a long haul.
 
Are the drivers not absolutely SPENT after doing 80, 100 or more laps? I imagine not all at once like a race but still...that's quite a long haul.

Jerez is a shorter track than the typical F1 track, so about 70-80 laps there would be like a full race, and these guys are not pushing for each lap. Other that the Renault drivers, they are pushing their cars. (Hamilton reference)
 
In that interview, he comes across like an 8 year old with a "I told you so, I told you so" mentality.

New engines, new rules. It's not unreasonable to have this week of testing go the way it went.

Lotus wasn't even there....
 
It's pre-season testing, unless you are really into the technical side of the sport of course it's going to be boring.

I also saw no problem with the way the healthy engines sounded.
 
In that interview, he comes across like an 8 year old with a "I told you so, I told you so" mentality.

New engines, new rules. It's not unreasonable to have this week of testing go the way it went.

Lotus wasn't even there....

But he didn't tell us anything really, I hate the soothsayer mentality he thinks he has. I'd just like to say to Bernie, that jail time can't come soon enough for his petty actions but this isn't the thread for that.
 
If Marussia can turn more laps than Red Bull that proves that Red Bull have simply got a 🤬 car in one way or another.

It's not a RedBull problem, its a Renault problem.
 
But he didn't tell us anything really, I hate the soothsayer mentality he thinks he has. I'd just like to say to Bernie, that jail time can't come soon enough for his petty actions but this isn't the thread for that.
True, but he still comes across with that attitude, which is unwarranted.
 
It's not a RedBull problem, its a Renault problem.

Can't say that yet. Not confirmed, but I'm leaning toward it being a Red Bull problem. Adrian got too greedy with the packaging yet again.

They said there was a problem in the data collection when they were bench and dyno testing, correlation's off, so between that and the sorting out of certain electronics positioning, they'll need to put in a lot of work in order to make their package work right.
 
Kobayashi being able to do 54 laps in day 4 would indicate it's more about Red Bull than about Renault.

It's widely speculated that it is a packaging issue. With everything being so compact some parts are getting too hot due to the confined space that they are in, it appears to be the same for Toro Rosso. If you look at their 'coke bottle' rear ends it all makes sense.

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In other news, I'm almost 1000 words into my Jerez write-up and still have five teams left to cover! Is anybody here looking forward to me writing this?
 
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The reports are now live. I have broken it down into three articles to make reading easier and I would very much appreciate feedback on this.

Red Bull, McLaren, Ferrari and Mercedes

http://www.f1today.net/en/news/jerez-test--team-reports-red-bull-mclaren-ferrari-and-mercedes

Williams, Force India and Sauber

http://www.f1today.net/en/news/jerez-test--team-reports-williams-force-india-and-sauber

Toro Rosso, Caterham and Marussia

http://www.f1today.net/en/news/jerez-test--team-reports-toro-rosso-caterham-and-marussia
 
If Marussia can turn more laps than Red Bull that proves that Red Bull have simply got a 🤬 car in one way or another.

Or it could just mean that they've been having technical issues, which they have.
 
Finally we have some decent footage of what these babies sound like. Bernie is right on this one...they are a bit quiet. The note is nice, but it doesn't send the same chills down my spine as the V10s and V8s at 18,000 RPM. The V12s certainly take my heart as well.

 
I remember the first time I saw F1 live (as in, not on TV) was at the 1984 Portuguese GP. And one thing I caught that I had never noticed is that the engines didn't all sound the same. Apart from the few surviving Cosworths, all cars were Turbo powered, but I remember the sound of the Ferraris and the Brabham BMWs was very different from all others (TAG, Renault, Hart, Alfa Romeo).

And apparently this year the Ferrari has a totally different sound once again. That's nice :)
 
I really hope that wasn't top RPM sounds.....
None of the teams were using the full rev range, as they just wanted to get some data to work with. Teams like Sauber and Caterham confirmed they were running with detuned engines due to issues with the ERS, and Red Bull and STR never had any full speed runs. The Mercedes engined teams seemed to be using their engines a bit more, but Ted Cravitz was fairly certain none of them were using all the revs.

On another note, its nice that all the engines have a unique sound now, in the V8 era they all sounded the same. Honestly, I won't miss the V8s, they didn't sound that great anyways. I just wish the new engines were louder (Or that F1 returned to V10s :drool:).
 
None of the teams were using the full rev range, as they just wanted to get some data to work with. Teams like Sauber and Caterham confirmed they were running with detuned engines due to issues with the ERS, and Red Bull and STR never had any full speed runs. The Mercedes engined teams seemed to be using their engines a bit more, but Ted Cravitz was fairly certain none of them were using all the revs.

Hmm, I've seen those videos from Ted too and I just hope that's true. I was so hyped up when I heard that 'LaFerrari' with a V6 turboish engine sound. Now THAT sounded sick.

Though I have to admit, that sound it makes when the gas pedal is half way down, that rumble, that's not too bad :dopey:
 
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