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Provisional 2017 WRC calendar :
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2 other rounds waiting for approval (China, Poland, Greece and Turkey are candidates)

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I am very sceptical to the rules of the top 2 results gain points as smaller teams like M-Sport and Dmack will have harder to compete. Imagine a Volkswagen 1,2 and 3 lead in a rally. If one of them screws up and retires there is nothing to loose as they still have 2 other drivers who will score manufacturer points. I wish they instead could have the old system where 2 drivers get nominated to score points before the rally starts, they had that in 1998.
 
So much for the Toyota driver announcement ...
The mondial de l'auto starts officialy the 1st october and goes on for 2 weeks, there is still plenty of time if there is any announcement at all. :D

Update 1 : Huyndai just announced the i20 wrc 2017 at the mondial de l'auto in Paris :



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Update 2 : Toyota conference at 13:15 gmt+1 Official Toyota Gazoo Racing website is ready to go live : https://toyotagazooracing.com

Update 3 : Official Citroen Conference, the C3 WRC concept 2017 has been unveiled. Nothing new.

Update 4 : Some very interesting rumors about Thierry Neuville coming from corsica,
He is searching for a one year contract for 2017 and he is in talk with VW for 2018. (Source : Paul Fraikin)

Update 5 : Toyota conference will give more information about the 2017 WRC program (Source : Toyota Europe)
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Update 6 : Toyota WRC 2017 unveiled with a surprising sponsorship with Microsoft. (No drivers mentioned)
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Last Update : I will end my coverage here, have a good Corsica rally this week end. :cheers:
 
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I want to like the Yaris, but I can't. Everything looks like it was bolted on as an afterthought, whereas the other cars have the aerodynamic bells and whistles fully integrated into the design. It probably doesn't help that this was the first shot I saw of it:

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With that squared-off front spoiler, I was immediately reminded of the Rover James, the car Jeremy Clarkson and Richard Hammond built to be retiree-friendly.

Some very interesting rumors about Thierry Neuville coming from corsica,
He is searching for a one year contract for 2017 and he is in talk with VW for 2018.
That means that one of the Volkswagen drivers would have to go because the rules say that manufacturers can only enter three cars (unless those rules change for 2018). I can't really see that happening right now.
 
That means that one of the Volkswagen drivers would have to go because the rules say that manufacturers can only enter three cars (unless those rules change for 2018). I can't really see that happening right now.
Latvala has been asking to be fired since they signed him by crashing every time he gets in the car.
 
Latvala has been asking to be fired since they signed him by crashing every time he gets in the car.
When he's on form, he's on form. While he does over-cook it at times, it's usually because he's pushing, and often times he deserves the benefit of the doubt. Look at his accident in Argentina - you can hardly fault him given that everyone else who hit that rock got away with it. He's had a disproportionate number of mechanical failures compared to Ogier and Mikkelsen, and he shoulders responsibility when he does screw up, unlike Ogier who blames everything around him like road position. It's difficult to justify replacing him with Neuville given that Neuville has been similarly inconsistent of late - there's a reason Hyundai put him in the third car.

If Volkswagen really did want to dismiss Latvala, they would have done so by now. It will be interesting to see how the demeanour of the team changes now that Capito is out and Sven Smeets appointed to the role. I doubt Ogier will be able to get away with much of the brash, outspoken rubbish that he was able to under Capito's rule.
 
That new i20 is pure porn. The Yaris just looks disproportionate.

I like Thierry. Quick driver. He's always pushing to the absolute limit, so he makes mistakes. But give him a few more years to mature and I believe he'll be tough to beat.
 
That new i20 is pure porn. The Yaris just looks disproportionate.

both ok for me... but the yaris wins more votes from me as it looks much more racy and more rally-like (plus it is under tommi makinen and interesting partnership with microsoft)
 
A Hyundai. A freakin' Hyundai. It's amazing to watch them advance from 1986 to now.
 
A Hyundai. A freakin' Hyundai. It's amazing to watch them advance from 1986 to now.
Is it, though? In the 1970s, the Japanese car industry wasn't amazing, but by the 1990s, it was outstanding. The South Korean car industry was likewise poor in the 1980s, but here we are in the 2010s and they're excellent. The Chinese industry will be the next one to boom; the market is flooding with new brands (none of which anyone with an ounce of common sense would go near), but give them fifteen or twenty years, and they'll be significantly better.

Is it really any surprise that the manufacturers - led by Citroën - pushed for a return to China?

the yaris wins more votes from me as it looks much more racy and more rally-like
You're the first person I have met who feels that way. Take off the livery and it wouldn't be out of place in the questionable modifications thread.
 
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You're the first person I have met who feels that way.

hm, I guess it is ok to be contrarian, huh? (of cos not for the sake of it, i echo your concern about the splitter but then again overall looks are still subjective afterall :))

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questionable modifications

we are talking about WRC, where "crazy" people are where unusual logic may applies, isn't it? ;)
 
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we are talking about WRC, where "crazy" people are where unusual logic may applies, isn't it?
Compare the Yaris to all of the other cars. Its rear wing looks like it was bolted on after the fact, whereas the others all have their aerodynamic bells and whistles fully integrated into their designs.
 
It really does look like a normal yaris, with just just a wide body and bolted on rear wing. I really think the other three and even Ford are just far more dynamic in looks.
 
It really does look like a normal yaris, with just just a wide body and bolted on rear wing. I really think the other three and even Ford are just far more dynamic in looks.
It has grown on me a little bit, though I still rate it behind the Hyundai and the Citroën. I expect that will change once we get a proper look at the Volkswagen and the Ford, but apparently it's the test car and not the finished version. It appears that Toyota wanted to formally launch the team and announce the partnerships with the likes of Microsoft and DMG Mori at a major event like the Paris Motor Show rather than display the final vehicle - which is understandable since we probably won't be seeing final versions of all five cars until shortly before the Monte Carlo Rally, at which point the likes of the partnership announcements would likely be drowned out by all the media attention on the cars and crews. It might even explain why they didn't announce drivers, but I am probably reading too much into it.
 
I also expect it to change just based on it still needing to go through testing. And since the others changes nearly every test, Toyota will probably have similar ideas. Also I had a feeling based on it being motorsports and all, that it being just a launch prep had more than anything to do with it. I mean Gazoo had to prepare a few cars for the show.
 
Is it, though? In the 1970s, the Japanese car industry wasn't amazing, but by the 1990s, it was outstanding. The South Korean car industry was likewise poor in the 1980s, but here we are in the 2010s and they're excellent.
Thing is, Hyundai didn't copy North American and German cars like what the Japanese did. Even in 3/4 scale mini "muscle" cars of the 1960s & 1970s and luxury cars of the 1970s through 1990s. Hyundai stuck to inexpensive automobiles. The Gen1 Sonata was a huge step up.
 
The Yaris is hideous, the Citroen and Hyundai look awesome though, need more pics of the Polo though to get a better opinion but it honestly doesn't look much different then the current one from the pics I've seen.

Allthough it should be noted the Yaris does look like it's in gravel spec so it doesn't look as racy without a lowered stance and bigger wheels.
 
Apparently lot of talking going down in Corsica.
Suninen and his manager Timo Joukhi were in talk with Malcolm Wilson today. (but for what ?:D)
Also Tommi Makinen has been seen with Toyota officials speaking with a few people, as well as Robert Kubica present for a "holiday vacation".

Meanwhile rain is coming on the stages.
 
Anybody else seeing a lot of Audi Quattro S1 in that Fiesta's front bumper/wheel arch area?
 
Citroën have announced that Meeke, Breen and Lefebvre will contest the 2017 season, with Breen and Lefebvre sharing a car until a third C3 WRC can be prepared. Khalid Al Qassimi will return to contest selected events in a fourth car.

Update: Hyundai have also confirmed Neuville alongside Paddon and Sordo.
 
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Breen, Levebre, Meeke the Citroen '17 line up.
And Al Qassimi doing selected events in a fourth car.

When that car might be ready is a mystery, seeing as how they'll need to build a third car so that Breen and Lefebvre do not have to share.

But with the Abu Dhabi sponsorship, and continue talk of a rally in the Emirates, I guess he's the one bankrolling it.
 
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