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You guys are crazy. I'd be proud if there was French in me(no jokes please). And you are talking to a guy who HATES their politics. socom is worried about the U.S.-bashers, but if you actually pay attention to what's going on around the world, you'll see that French does as much to be criticized as the President Bush, while the Russia and Putin is even worse.

French through the history contributed so much to the world, you guys should be proud of that part of your heritage.
 
You guys are crazy. I'd be proud if there was French in me(no jokes please). And you are talking to a guy who HATES their politics. socom is worried about the U.S.-bashers, but if you actually pay attention to what's going on around the world, you'll see that French does as much to be criticized as the President Bush, while the Russia and Putin is even worse.

French through the history contributed so much to the world, you guys should be proud of that part of your heritage.
Agreed, and I'm not going for the French defender award here but YSSMAN, I wouldn't overlook the French Revolution, an act that demonstrates strong will power, determination, and honor and make a semi-stereotype for them as being "weak". Although I admit that I really don't know how things turned out to be when they colonized the area where you're from, I still don't see how France, the great country that it is now, is still responsible for what happened ages ago.

The times that I've been in the U.N building here in NY, I was not amazed but somewhat surprised that the Secretary of the UN uses only two official languages, English and French. Every sign inside the building was in French and though that doesn't means that France has been one of the greatest countries in the world, it does tells you how influential they are in this planet.

But again, I'm not trying to change anyone here, whether you feel proud or not is none of my business really. hehe...



*EDIT* But being a former student of a French teacher, I do agree that some of them stink :yuck:
 
Because after how we helped them rid the nazis out of their country and took over after them in vietnam, and they cant even give us their support (not troops just support) in the war on terror, their a bunch of wussies.

Or perhaps in the eyes of the French:

Because after how we helped them rid the British out of their country and then left, and they couldn’t even give us their support (not troops just support) in the war against nazis, their a bunch of wussies for waiting so long.

:sly:

Just messing ;)

I've traced my ancestry back to mid 1600's so far and I'm still English. :) However, I am expecting an Irish link to come along sometime.
 
French through the history contributed so much to the world, you guys should be proud of that part of your heritage.
I've never cared much for French-bashing, I simply don't get it; It's almost as if the resentment of France and French things stems from a lot of jealousy and their odd spelling of words.

Heck, I rarely agree with Israeli nor American politics, but I'm never ashamed of any of it. Much of what the average person makes of the names of nations is based on stereotypes, not by context and understanding. The nation does not make the man, but we make the nation what it is.
 
Well, I can attempt to answer that from my perspective. What it comes down to is that being French is viewed as a "weakness" simply based on the history of the country maybe in the past 100 or so years. Truely a reason to hate your ancestors? Not really. Where I come from (Michigan), we were overran by the French and the British long before Americans showed up, hell the Indians before that. It was the French who built Detroit and Mackinac (Mak-in-aw for those of you not from around here...).

It is the attitude that probably ruins them for Americans. That and their distaste for bathing, as well. I'm sure that they think the same of us, however we don't care.

I must admit that for a time I would tell people that I was Australian in place of my French heritage because of how much I hated that country. Things aren't as bad now, however, I can't say that I love my French origins, no matter how important they may be.

And you wonder why some French dislike America so much? It's because of people like you spouting this crap. Politics aren't everything you know, If you have ancestors from France, you should be proud, even if you don't agree with the current administration's policies, instead you blindly hate these people. You also choose to disrespect your ancestors, who most likely had absolutely nothing to do with whatever you are so "ashamed" of the French for now.

Pupik and a6m5 said it a lot better than I could, but French-bashing is lame, and it's been old for quite some time.

On topic: I'm not sure of the exact percentages, but I do know that my mom's family is 100% Irish, so that'd make me 50% Irish, as far as my dad's side goes, I'm not really sure of every nationality, but his family is mostly British and Dutch. I'm American, but I'm certainly not ashamed of my Irish, British, or Dutch forefathers.
 
irsh, english and german as far as i know ;)
 
100 % Polish, still living in Poland, for last 34years :) My grandma toldme that her gran grand ngrand... mather was a kind of Tschech countess or something.. If I had believed her it wouldmean I am also a bit of a Tschech.
 
If I had believed her it wouldmean I am also a bit of a Tschech.
Would Tschech be the Czech repulic or Czechoslovakia as it used to be not that long ago?
 
All true Stilwell/Stillwells are related. The name is a single-source one and originates from near Godalming in Surrey, England. The original spelling was Stylewell, and means "pure spring" and is named after two springs in the area of Bowlhead Green in Thursley, near Godalming. These springs are called "High Stilwell" and "Nether Stilwell". The former is still a village pond in Bowlhead Green but the latter spring has since been piped into a lake. The first record of the name "Stilwell" is in 1235 in the Godalming Court records where a "Ricardus de Stiyelewell" is recorded. Later records that exist for the name until the early 1500's are all in the same area. In 1515, baptisms of Stilwells are recorded in nearby Dorking, and this branch of the family grew in the area and ultimately became successful. There are no records of the name "Stilwell" (in any form) anywhere in the country except in the county of Surrey until the 1630's when some baptisms for children of just one family are recorded in London. By the mid 1700's a few Stilwell families had moved to London (mainly to Stepney/Whitechapel) and others inevitably followed in search of work and wealth.

That describes my surname. We live around 30 miles from Godalming too as do many of 'our' Stilwells.

Anyone who's done American history might know off General Joe Stilwell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stilwell we are related to him

There are quite a few Stilwells spread around the world including the US and I think there's a few in Aus too as I remember seeing an advertising board during the cricket down under which featured Stilwells which was a Ford garage.

As far back as I know we've got alot British blood, some Scottish and some Irish too.
 
Ozzy
Agreed, and I'm not going for the French defender award here but YSSMAN, I wouldn't overlook the French Revolution, an act that demonstrates strong will power, determination, and honor and make a semi-stereotype for them as being "weak".

And who exactly inspired the French Revolution? Hint: Starts with U, ends with S. Beyond that, their revolution was a bit messier than ours, effectively ended the positive relationship they had with America and Americans, and later installed a dictator as their leader. I suppose we should thank the French for their Revolution, as without it we wouldn't have Toqueville giving our nation so much praise in 1830, and added to that, rebuilding our relationship with Great Britain after the skirmishes between the three of us.

MaxPowers
And you wonder why some French dislike America so much? It's because of people like you spouting this crap.

If you'd note, I did highlight the fact that where I come from, much of it wouldn't have existed without the French. It wasn't until the annexation of the Michigan territory and the influx of Dutch and Polish immigrants that the French folks retreated to Canada, however their mark was indeed left, and has been maintained.

However I would care to note that some of what I had written was a bit tongue-in-cheek, and generally matches the same stereotypes of French people that Americans have had since the early years of the post-war era. What it comes down to is that people make fun of the French because they are easy targets for doing so, and people do the same for Americans as well.

Sure, there was a time where I hated knowing that I was partially French. However that doesn't mean that I didn't appreciate what the French have done for the world we live in. If anything, the French are indeed the most important people from the European mainland since the collapse of the Roman Empire, a fact that is indeed hard to argue, and they have manged to shape European (and American) history as we know it.

But a few jokes here and there doesn't mean that everyone hates the French and the fact that they are French. I still tell people I am, but it really isn't a big deal to me. As noted, most folks around here are Dutch or Polish, and that indeed is the reason why we have the big cultural celebrations for both groups down the road in Holland, Michigan and here in Grand Rapids. If I were to name my "Big Three" in terms of my nationality, I always say "Dutch, German, Native American." Why? I don't know...

...There was a time in America where it was pretty bad to be a German too. Hell, a town a few miles away had to change their name from Berlin to Marne. A few of my friend's families had their names changed during the war as well. There are plenty of negative connotations around the Polish as well, and I'll admit that I do a good bit of tongue-in-cheek Pollock-bashing too, but everyone does it...

Its what Americans do. We all make fun of each other for what part of the world we came from. Maybe it is the uptight English, the hard-drinking Irish, the white-flag-waving French, the freaky-deeky Dutch, the dumb Polish, agressive/passionate Italians, savage Native Americans, etc... There is a stereotype to go with everyone. Its part of our culture, like it or not...
 
My parents tell me I'm Vietnamese. But seriously, I really need to learn how to read and write in Vietnamese, it's ****ing embarrassing. 👎
 
My parents tell me I'm Vietnamese. But seriously, I really need to learn how to read and write in Vietnamese, it's ****ing embarrassing. 👎
This one is a shocker. I had no idea that I was talking to a another Asian all this time! :lol:
 
My parents tell me I'm Vietnamese. But seriously, I really need to learn how to read and write in Vietnamese, it's ****ing embarrassing. 👎
My mom’s straight from Thailand, but I have no clue how to write, speak, or comprehend Thai. Whenever I go to Thailand people always try to talk to me (I look like I could be a native Thai) and I just have to shake my head like I’m deaf.
 
Wow, that was class right there Omnis. Good one! :lol:
 
This one is a shocker. I had no idea that I was talking to a another Asian all this time! :lol:

My mom’s straight from Thailand, but I have no clue how to write, speak, or comprehend Thai. Whenever I go to Thailand people always try to talk to me (I look like I could be a native Thai) and I just have to shake my head like I’m deaf.

My parents tell me I'm Vietnamese. But seriously, I really need to learn how to read and write in Vietnamese, it's ****ing embarrassing. 👎

You guys are all Asian? :eek:

I am 1/2 Taiwanese, 1/2 New York, and 1/2 Irish. I REFUSE to be associated with the word 'America'. As of last year I am also 1/2 Californian. And yes, HALF. For ALL OF THEM.

I speak, read and write Chinese fluently. At a Chinese 3rd grade level, though I could survive on my own in Taiwan with enough money.
 
This one is a shocker. I had no idea that I was talking to a another Asian all this time! :lol:

Well, now you know!

My mom’s straight from Thailand, but I have no clue how to write, speak, or comprehend Thai. Whenever I go to Thailand people always try to talk to me (I look like I could be a native Thai) and I just have to shake my head like I’m deaf.

Yeah, but the sad thing is my parents even tried sending me to Vietnamese school when I was younger (around 4th or 5th grade). I just couldn't wrap my head around the diacritical/accent marks.

Here’s a sample: Trăm năm trong cõi người ta. Chữ tài chữ mệnh khéo là ghét nhau.

Yeah, no idea what that says…
 
You’re not alone – around that same time my mom tried sending me to a Thai school. After a week I told her I didn’t think it was doing me any good and dropped out.
 
...I like Tai food. Did your parents teach you how to make any of that? I know I haven't learned any of my cultural cooking (for the most part). Mostly the American standards I guess, unless Bratwurst und Saurkraut counts as German no matter how you make it...
 
No * positive.
* possible.
** plausible

Paternal: Scottish, *Welsh, *Irish, *English, **Creek, **Cherokee.

Maternal: Polish, **German (in connection to the Polish relation), English (alternative French possible, but believe English to be the more certain nation of origin), Finnish, **Swedish (in connection to the Finnish relation), Russian, Irish.
 
You guys are all Asian? :eek:

I am 1/2 Taiwanese, 1/2 New York, and 1/2 Irish. I REFUSE to be associated with the word 'America'. As of last year I am also 1/2 Californian. And yes, HALF. For ALL OF THEM.

I speak, read and write Chinese fluently. At a Chinese 3rd grade level, though I could survive on my own in Taiwan with enough money.

And they say teachers can be replaced when they miss class due to illness!
 
On my fathers side; Belgian through and through. Mothers side, I think France.
 
Half West Yorkshire, half milkmanese ;)
 
Actually, if i remember rightly, our mikman's wife committed suicide by jumping off a bridge into the path of the morning Harrogate - Leeds commuter train :yuck:

- i guess she found out :sly:
 
...I like Tai food. Did your parents teach you how to make any of that? I know I haven't learned any of my cultural cooking (for the most part). Mostly the American standards I guess, unless Bratwurst und Saurkraut counts as German no matter how you make it...
Nope. I can’t cook in my dorm, so my mom hasn’t bothered teaching me how to cook anything – she’ll probably teach me this coming summer, because next school year I’ll be in an apartment with a kitchenette.
 
I'd be fascinated to find out what my genetic make-up could tell me about the history of my family...

At the most basic level, I'm approx. 1/8 Irish and 7/8 Scottish... however, I'm sure you wouldn't have to track back too far to find some surprises in there somewhere... (like these guys)
 
100% pure Belgian 👍

Though I live in Norway...
 
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