Your opinion on Racing Softs?

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My opinion is I paid $69 for this game and I'll put whatever tires I like on a car, and don't care what anyone else does with their cars because it's none of my business. Enjoy the game however you see fit, even if it's putting RS tires on a 25 hp car.
 
I'm curious how many people that feel that RS are "unrealistic" have driven a prototype or formula car with racing softs to actually know if they are unrealistic or not?

I'm guessing we must have a lot of professional drivers here that personally have driven a Peugeot 908 at Le Mans to be able to make that distinction.

Secondly, I cant believe people complain about RS being too "unrealistic" when there is the stupid Red Bull x2010 in this game, which is the most unrealistic thing and I cant believe its actually in a game that is supposed to be a "real driving simulator."
 
I like using RS for the higher HP cars, or any other car I see fit, after all, they are "racing tires",and we are "racing" in this game.

Are they over kill?, yes, I do use SS alot as well, I wont use anything in the comfort tires, they are not made for racing, and since thats what we are doing.

It all depends on if I am racing on line or off, it all just depends on the car as well. For me its one of those things that I used when I started the game, but now a year and a half later, I dont need them to be good, or aids, and its more fun driving cars on SH/SS with no aids then driving a car with RS
 
I've never used racing softs in a race. I never bother joining rooms with no tyre limits. You never see slicks bolted on road cars and with the ultimate grip they provide in this game it makes driving really yawn worthy. You either go on rails, or if you magically manage to break the grip they give, you're already going so fast and the slide is so sudden, it's very difficult to recover it.

I prefer to have a lower limit of grip and then going constantly over it slightly and trying to keep it on the limit.
 
Racing Soft have their place - I agree that some cars should not be able to be equipped with these tyres (the tyres are actually worth more than the car itself like in the fiat panda example)

Although, like many aids they're great for the beginner to learn a circuit before reducing the level of grip to a more realistic level.

I will use RS if everyone else is running them online otherwise you just aren't competitive. But I do like Shuffle races with appropriate tyre selection.
 
OK8
I've never used racing softs in a race. I never bother joining rooms with no tyre limits. You never see slicks bolted on road cars and with the ultimate grip they provide in this game it makes driving really yawn worthy. You either go on rails, or if you magically manage to break the grip they give, you're already going so fast and the slide is so sudden, it's very difficult to recover it.

I prefer to have a lower limit of grip and then going constantly over it slightly and trying to keep it on the limit.
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You also don't see 650 hp street ready Camaro's running door to door at 190 mph at Monza either...
 
For me, Racing Soft Tires are down-right crazy,and unrealistic, in some matters. It's even more wacky when you use them on Daytona, or Indianapolis or any other high speed courses. Usually, I use Racing Soft on tight, challenging courses, like the Nurburgring. (Only if it's like 2-4 laps) Commonly, I use Racing Medium. Possibly my favourite racing tire. Though yes, I use Racing tires on Race cars (DUH! :dunce:). On regular cars, I just go one type up (Comfort Med. = Sports Med.). While when there is sports: Sports Hard = Sports Soft. What I really think why people use RS is because their either too cheap to get performance suspension, or they are too lazy to adjust it themselves.
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Remember how in GT4 street cars would come with Sports Medium installed by default, and that if you wanted to simulate real grip you had to switch to Normals (which was specified every time you bought a car)? Same thing with GT5.
 
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They die too quickly,that is all.





But the way I drive I probably would aswell.x.x
 
Johnnypenso
You also don't see 650 hp street ready Camaro's running door to door at 190 mph at Monza either...
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OK8
I don't understand your point.
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Someone said that RS tires were unrealistic and that's why they don't use them. But so is a 650 hp street car going 190 mph at Monza on Sports Hard tires. There are lots of unrealistic things about the game. Play it the way you enjoy it is my motto. I don't care what anyone else does with their tires, it's their own business. I'm just happy they bought the game and supported the title, makes it better for me.
 
I don't care what anyone does with their tires online either. If you want to compete you'll have to choose the max tires allowed in the room specs but if you want to run around on SS tires in an RS tire room why would I care?
 
Grip wise you probably could compare them with a super soft qualifying tyre in real life no?
They only last longer.
 
Unfortunally to win some cash online I have to use racing soft tires but for me , I HATE THEM !

I drive all cars with their stock tires , but in case I tune them I put the tires "up" ex . if I tune a Opel Corsa (which I did) I went from CS tires to SH , on super cars I got from SH to SS or RH , the rest is always RH tires.
 
I think there's a place for them, but I tend to use them only on race cars or road cars that I've heavily tuned (in effect turning them into race cars). Sports Softs are my favourite tyres, they give good grip but with a manageable limit.
 
avens
RS shouldn't be available in GT6, period. Also Racing tires in general should only be available for Racing cars (not tuned and others, no matter how good they are), sports for sports, super and hyper cars, and comforts for everything else.
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I think it's a stupid move to not put racing softs in GT6 because they ARE out there, whether people misuse or use the appropriate it up to them.
For me they kill the joy of driving the car. It makes the car too easy to drive. I'm not saying I'm going to use an Audi R10 with Sports Soft, but I use them accordingly by each class.
 
Ferrari458Italia
I think it's a stupid move to not put racing softs in GT6 because they ARE out there, whether people misuse or use the appropriate it up to them.
For me they kill the joy of driving the car. It makes the car too easy to drive. I'm not saying I'm going to use an Audi R10 with Sports Soft, but I use them accordingly by each class.
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It's not like PD will not use some precious content they already made. As we all know GT6 badly needs a new tire model comparable to its competition, so there's no way the current RS tires will be on that game.

People said the same about standard models in GT5 though.
 
Had 2 experiences with and without RS tires yesterday evening, as per the room rules/set up.

First was a clean racing room with either one or a small selection of cars chosen from the recommended list by the host, with no restrictions or tires so sadly it was RS's all round. While the racing was good and people were generally closely matched the tires killed almost all of the fun - it was impossible to break traction in both an Amuse 380RS and Isuzu 4200R, they just handled like they were on rails with a little understeer if you actually get past the tires silly limits. In other words it made two lively and fun to drive cars feel dead, and while the racing was pretty close it would have been so much more fun and probably closer if we just stuck to sports tires, even sports softs still allow moderately powered cars to slide around when provoked!

Anyway after a few races I left that room and found a clean shuffle room using the top end of the available cars (GTR, Yellowbird, AC Cobra, RS6, M5) and being a shuffle we were all on sports hard tires. And it was at least 5x more fun than the previous room!! Even in a GTR which I personally find quite dull to drive it still felt like I could break traction, slide around and make a mistake and getting a good result was far more satisfying and enjoyable. Also, on 'proper' tires how well you start has much more of an impact on the first part of the race, assuming you do a standing start.

I should also add that the only reason I ended up in the first room was because I'd had given up finding a room with tire restrictions that was not drifting, as 99% of them have no restrictions, and this includes most of the 'clean' and so called 'pro racers only' rooms. How about we try and set up a group where we can have tire restricted races in a variety of disciplines and PP's and have some sort of universal name and setup for them, so they are easy for people to find? :dopey:
 
finnracer
Had 2 experiences with and without RS tires yesterday evening, as per the room rules/set up.

First was a clean racing room with either one or a small selection of cars chosen from the recommended list by the host, with no restrictions or tires so sadly it was RS's all round. While the racing was good and people were generally closely matched the tires killed almost all of the fun - it was impossible to break traction in both an Amuse 380RS and Isuzu 4200R, they just handled like they were on rails with a little understeer if you actually get past the tires silly limits. In other words it made two lively and fun to drive cars feel dead, and while the racing was pretty close it would have been so much more fun and probably closer if we just stuck to sports tires, even sports softs still allow moderately powered cars to slide around when provoked!

Anyway after a few races I left that room and found a clean shuffle room using the top end of the available cars (GTR, Yellowbird, AC Cobra, RS6, M5) and being a shuffle we were all on sports hard tires. And it was at least 5x more fun than the previous room!! Even in a GTR which I personally find quite dull to drive it still felt like I could break traction, slide around and make a mistake and getting a good result was far more satisfying and enjoyable. Also, on 'proper' tires how well you start has much more of an impact on the first part of the race, assuming you do a standing start.

I should also add that the only reason I ended up in the first room was because I'd had given up finding a room with tire restrictions that was not drifting, as 99% of them have no restrictions, and this includes most of the 'clean' and so called 'pro racers only' rooms. How about we try and set up a group where we can have tire restricted races in a variety of disciplines and PP's and have some sort of universal name and setup for them, so they are easy for people to find? :dopey:
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I'm on board :D
In my lobbys the tire restrictions are like this:
400pp> = Comfort Soft
400-500pp = Sports Hard
500-600pp = Sports Soft
600-650pp = Racing Hard
650pp< = Racing Soft
 
Using racing softs is alright if you are doing a top speed run, or if you are in a slower car and you are trying to win a race. I like using racing mediums though.
 
jaycee_xr3
I used to run everything on racing softs, but with time and experience that become to be boring. Actually I only use racing softs on racing cars... and I don't drive racing cars very often, my main source of fun are 400-600 ppr cars in sport tires.
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I have to agree with this. RS are fine for a new player. They let them compete and stay on the tracks thus learning them faster, but you should be able to wean yourself off of them as you gain experience (except for the previously mentioned LMP, F1, Group C, and such). I too find myself in the 450-600 rooms with sport tire restrictions. Also, you know that the better drivers are usually in those rooms. I run the seasonal events on the tires the competition are wearing for the challenge of it (when unrestricted).
 
Lion-Face
In a random online room, I use max grip tire available. Aside from that, I try to keep away from them. PD needs to bring PP back into effect for tires, so when someone runs Racing Hards or whatever else tire, they have a fighting chance, would make the racing more interesting.
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I always wonder why PD changed that when tire grip is an integral part of performance. I remember using lesser tires to get more hp or down-force because of the effect on the pp .
 
I put racing softs on my fully modded fiat panda and now it either goes up on two wheels or tips over in every corner.
 
Johnnypenso
Someone said that RS tires were unrealistic and that's why they don't use them. But so is a 650 hp street car going 190 mph at Monza on Sports Hard tires. There are lots of unrealistic things about the game. Play it the way you enjoy it is my motto. I don't care what anyone else does with their tires, it's their own business. I'm just happy they bought the game and supported the title, makes it better for me.
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I don't understand what's unrealistic about 650 hp street cars going 190 mph at Monza on Sports Hard tires.
 
HuskyGT
They only work great on Group C cars. Putting them in street cars is rediculous and pointless.

For me:

Comfort Softs up to Sports Medium for street cars.

Racing Hard up to Racing Mediums for race cars.

Racing Softs for Group C cars.
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OK8
I don't understand what's unrealistic about 650 hp street cars going 190 mph at Monza on Sports Hard tires.
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Because it doesn't really exist mass wise. But other than that, it can happen if someone gets a 650hp car and manages to get 190mph down either straight on sports hard equivalent tires.... in real life


What are the chance of that?
 

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