[livemusic]

Mosport's turn 2 isn't the best place to fight for position either. During lap 1 if I have someone by my side I back off before going into the turns.

Another fun track for the Skip this week, Oulton Park. I'll try to race there tonight.

[Patrocles]

runfast1

Hey iracers
I raced at mosport last nite and stated 7th made it through turn 1 ok, then I hear car on left and I saw that one coming, but then I move to the right a little and touched tires with the car on the right didn't see that one! Oh ship! I wrecked two cars and myself at turn 2. I felt so bad that I didn't see the car to my right, I guess having three monitors would be better for seeing cars on the sides of you! I got a couple of guys mad at me now!! Not good! Time to save up for three monitors ASAP. Peace

bummer! yeah, ship happens and we have all been there! All we can do is learn from our experience.

The game spotter is not perfect but it can help.

[Nastradamus87]

swiftwilly

That is so painful...-600...especially trying to get the 600 again its even more difficult given the "mental barriers" that come with it. I mean, how do you approach this? The next time you go in races you will be setting yourself a higher target, i.e. winning, to claw all that back and you may end up more nervous/making more mistkes doing PB's and killing your irating even more.....

For example @ mosport I had a target of +100 irating for the week, after 2 races I was +150 i rating thinking I should walk away! guess what? I didn't, and not long after I was down - 250 for the week! I was so down, annoyed, peeved, unhappy...after a few good last wins before the week ended I beat my target and I am up +120 for the week. I need to learn, after reachign your goal, just walk away and take a break!

As long as I keep my iRating high enough to stay in the split I want to be in I suppose I'm not overly worried what it's at. It was a nice feeling to see it soaring upwards during the week at Brands Hatch. Points this season is what I'm after for the most part. My goal is to get in the top ten of division 3, which I've been hovering around all season.

You're right that it's a vicious circle. The last few races that have gone bad have frustrated me greatly because I've been on such a bad streak for so long. I'm going to have to really concentrate on getting top fives and not crashing to turn the season around.

What time in GMT do you normally race at?

[swiftwilly]

16 to 22 GMT weekdays

Weekends all day long saturday your time. Not in your SOF though. Yet.

I did some at Oulton. Can someone explain to me where your suppose to safetly pass or let people pass here? There is no room. If I am correct, the width is even smaller than LRP? At least LRP is short so doesn't take long to hit the home straight for a pass.

I think I will drop this week. Oulton just doesn't look safe for the Skip.

[Frantikk]

Don't skip Oulton. It's the most fun track on the schedule in my opinion. Most of your passes will be because of mistakes which are easy to make there and pressuring someone for long enough will usually pay off. Last season I saw passes being made all over the track though. Britten's and Druids are the only places where you are unlikely to see any passing. Turn 4 and Knickerbrook will be scray places to pass, but people will do it.

[noshog]

Pretty much what Frantikk said
Oulton is too much fun to skip, for me it's right up there with Brands and Mosport.....Awesome.
And same for passing too, it will be mainly from others mistakes. Last season I think I made passes pretty much everywhere, as long your in the right position and at least fully along side you should be right.
You'll be right, go hard, have fun

[Eric.]

swiftwilly

16 to 22 GMT weekdays

Weekends all day long saturday your time. Not in your SOF though. Yet.

I did some at Oulton. Can someone explain to me where your suppose to safetly pass or let people pass here? There is no room. If I am correct, the width is even smaller than LRP? At least LRP is short so doesn't take long to hit the home straight for a pass.

I think I will drop this week. Oulton just doesn't look safe for the Skip.

I ran Oulton in the MX5 two weeks ago now, missed the racing during the week so I got in the last two races on Saturday. Wrecked in both. DROP!

First one was pushing too hard to catch someone and the second was trying to pass on the uphill left after the straight (Hislop?) on the outside. Hit the brakes at the wrong moment and sent my car into his car on lap2. Ugh.

[swiftwilly]

noshog

Pretty much what Frantikk said
Oulton is too much fun to skip, for me it's right up there with Brands and Mosport.....Awesome.
And same for passing too, it will be mainly from others mistakes. Last season I think I made passes pretty much everywhere, as long your in the right position and at least fully along side you should be right.
You'll be right, go hard, have fun

I am probably going to disagree though. you have far more experience but just at lower SOF's I see a hell of a lot of issues
1. being stuck behind someone, they don't move far enough to let you pass, you take it and stuff it - its going to be messy
2. If you want someone who is aggro to pass you, you move to the side, let them pass and they muck it up into a crash.

I see your point and your probably going to be right, but this track looks messy as when there is traffic....

I just have serious concerns of the width, and in the long straights the track doesn't expand either. Corners are also pretty tight for passing. After driving the track, the only safe passing area would be at the home straight if I am correct, given that its a ~1.50.xxx track, thats a hell of a long time to be stuck behind someone. At Mosport there were 2 places I considered safe and it was ~1.35's, LRP is the home stretch only too but thats 59's....

so the other Skip drivers, what you think? Is even starting in the pits a worthwhile strategy for this track? Can't imagine doing pole and having massively aggro/faster cars behind you on this track

[superbike81]

I've got the same feelings towards the Summit Point layout they are using this week for the inRacingNews Challenge. It's way too narrow, feels like a autocross course with a couple long straights added.

[swiftwilly]

superbike81

I've got the same feelings towards the Summit Point layout they are using this week for the inRacingNews Challenge. It's way too narrow, feels like a autocross course with a couple long straights added.

Well I am not in contention for the championship so theres real incentive for me to drop it....and I drop laguna next week because the corkscrew + Skip low grip = killer.

I will still do time trails though, I am leading that currently and I would love to win the time trail championship in my first ever season of iracing let alone the Skip..

[Kamuifanboy]

runfast1

Hey iracers
I raced at mosport last nite and stated 7th made it through turn 1 ok, then I hear car on left and I saw that one coming, but then I move to the right a little and touched tires with the car on the right didn't see that one! Oh ship! I wrecked two cars and myself at turn 2. I felt so bad that I didn't see the car to my right, I guess having three monitors would be better for seeing cars on the sides of you! I got a couple of guys mad at me now!! Not good! Time to save up for three monitors ASAP. Peace

I think just having a button on your wheel to look left and right does the trick. And having the relative box open at all times. I've never felt there was much gain in visibility with 3 monitors.

[superbike81]

Most people find the "look left/right" feature annoying at best. It can be useful from time to time for a quick look, but if you use the CORRECT FOV a triple monitor setup is a huge increase in visibility.

Realistically most people using a single monitor "should" be using around a 45 degree FOV. The only way it will be different is if the screen only a few inches from your face. But most people don't think the FOV calculator within iRacing is correct, so they adjust it to what they feel is best. Problem with that is, even though a FOV of 75 or so may "feel" right, it's screwing up your depth perception and the size of things.

Triple screens (or more) is really the only way to use a proper FOV and get good peripheral vision.

One thing about the look left/right feature is it can be adjusted within the app.ini (I think) to how many ever degrees you want to look.

[swiftwilly]

superbike81

Most people find the "look left/right" feature annoying at best. It can be useful from time to time for a quick look, but if you use the CORRECT FOV a triple monitor setup is a huge increase in visibility.

Realistically most people using a single monitor "should" be using around a 45 degree FOV. The only way it will be different is if the screen only a few inches from your face. But most people don't think the FOV calculator within iRacing is correct, so they adjust it to what they feel is best. Problem with that is, even though a FOV of 75 or so may "feel" right, it's screwing up your depth perception and the size of things.

Triple screens (or more) is really the only way to use a proper FOV and get good peripheral vision.

One thing about the look left/right feature is it can be adjusted within the app.ini (I think) to how many ever degrees you want to look.

I am at 68 degrees, Just enough to allow me to see the dashboard. At 45 doesn't allow me to see anything.

I use the left and right buttons though.

[superbike81]

I never messed with changing the FOV from what the iRacing calculator suggested. Supposedly, you have a much better feel for the car on the track by using the suggested FOV, and supposedly it can actually make you faster once you get used to it, but I'm sure it's not the same for everyone.

[zedfonsie]

I use 55 FOV. 68 makes me feel like the car is driving itself (question mark).

[Patrocles]

swiftwilly

16 to 22 GMT weekdays

Weekends all day long saturday your time. Not in your SOF though. Yet.

I did some at Oulton. Can someone explain to me where your suppose to safetly pass or let people pass here? There is no room. If I am correct, the width is even smaller than LRP? At least LRP is short so doesn't take long to hit the home straight for a pass.

I think I will drop this week. Oulton just doesn't look safe for the Skip.

I was in a three-way battle at Oulton last night and we were making very safe passes at....looking at map...
T1 and T14
(of course, we were making other passes on each other at various corners and straights when a pilot had an incident)

good luck!

Oulton was so fun for me last season using the baseline setup, but with the NTM I am really struggling with the baseline setup and tweaked setups.
anyone have a good setup to recommend or share?
much appreciated!

[Frantikk]

swiftwilly

so the other Skip drivers, what you think? Is even starting in the pits a worthwhile strategy for this track? Can't imagine doing pole and having massively aggro/faster cars behind you on this track

I've never understood why one would start from the pits. What's the fun in that? I guess some people are more worried about SR and iRating, but for me they're just an afterthought to racing.

Pole is the safest place to start. Make sure you get a good start and first corner and then the guys behind you should be more concerned with fighting each other for the first couple laps.

You can pass people in several places, practice driving off on different lines so that you will comfortable overtaking. If the guy in front of you is all over the track just wait it out and he'll crash on his own. You can count on a lot of guys crashing here in every split, so being cautious will pay off.

[Patrocles]

Frantikk

I've never understood why one would start from the pits. What's the fun in that? I guess some people are more worried about SR and iRating, but for me they're just an afterthought to racing.

Pole is the safest place to start. Make sure you get a good start and first corner and then the guys behind you should be more concerned with fighting each other for the first couple laps.

You can pass people in several places, practice driving off on different lines so that you will comfortable overtaking. If the guy in front of you is all over the track just wait it out and he'll crash on his own. You can count on a lot of guys crashing here in every split, so being cautious will pay off.

Starting from the pit is a very smart strategy by a pilot that understands the field, track and knows his own limitations (and maybe the limitations of other pilots on the grid?). Rather that than some idiot hots**t pilot, instead of putting in practice laps, who can't handle the car or know the track starting right next to your car.

[zedfonsie]

I just love lime rock going through the 2nd corner in the mx5 cup . Luckily there was few accidents, I had a guy up my arse and tried to overtake me on the straight, he completely missed his braking point and barreled into the nice comfy ditch

[Nastradamus87]

Oulton is so tight you have to be very aggresive to make a pass without the leading car making a major mistake.

Last night I had a race at Oulton. All 14 laps were a three way battle for the lead. There were four lead changes and about eight passes in total among the three of us. Only God knows how we didn't crash into each other. The other two drivers were very aggressive, in one case moving over to shut the door on me when I was already along side them. Our tires made contact and I almost went off the track! Everyone was fighting hard for their position. I took the lead with 4 laps to go. Second made a move in the last corner on the outside and beat me to the line by a hair. What an exciting race that was.

The only corner that I feel is dangerous is T3 (the fast left hander at the end of the front straight). For me this is the only place I can make a move to pass without a mistake by the leading car.

Patrocles

Starting from the pit is a very smart strategy by a pilot that understands the field, track and knows his own limitations (and maybe the limitations of other pilots on the grid?). Rather that than some idiot hots**t pilot, instead of putting in practice laps, who can't handle the car or know the track starting right next to your car.

If I can't out qualify someone like that by several places then I'd say I need more practice laps myself.