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BobbyBRAKEaNek's Avatar
United StatesCarrollton, GA
Mar 13 2012, 9:22 PM #61
BobbyBRAKEaNek tha STIGroe
1241Penguin View Post
And why the disappointment in a car you can't possibly afford?
Hahaa, funny. Where in the hell are you going to enjoy it at.
   
 
Eric.'s Avatar
No Country SpecifiedUnited States
Mar 13 2012, 9:53 PM #62
How every every moment you're in the driver's seat?
   
tlowr4's Avatar
AustraliaAustralia
Mar 13 2012, 10:36 PM #63
tlowr4 Not what it looks like...
Remember the days when the Supra could hit 300? Yeah, them were the days.


Oh wait, this isn't the GT4 Forum.

Seriously though, I think a lot of more common manufactures are going to have to work super hard to match anything Bugetti can pump out. I don't see it happening any time soon.
   
Eric.'s Avatar
No Country SpecifiedUnited States
Mar 13 2012, 10:38 PM #64
You say that like there's a high demand for 250mph cars.
   
tlowr4's Avatar
AustraliaAustralia
Mar 13 2012, 10:45 PM #65
tlowr4 Not what it looks like...
^^ Umm....nnoo??

I'm confused, but no, not in that aspect. I meant performance manufacturers, and the way I see it is essentially with each new model is aimed to be more, and bigger, and better. Working their way to the top. The only demand for 250MPH cars, is by the manufactures themselves. However, to reach the milestone that the Veyron had, in a single car, would take monstrous effort on their parts.
   
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United StatesSan Diego/Calif
Mar 13 2012, 11:09 PM #66
AudiPro Go out and drift.
I really hope Koenigsegg pulls it off and de-thrones Bugatti, and honestly I thought Koenigsegg would've have beaten the record for fastest production car quite a while ago. The CCX was a monster that was pretty damn fast but alas it didn't, and then the announcement of the CCXR got me hoping again...
   
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CanadaCanada
Mar 13 2012, 11:15 PM #67
BobbyBRAKEaNek View Post
Hahaa, funny. Where in the hell are you going to enjoy it at.
No, I'm simply asking you why you are acting disappointed with it, hence the "Great, another hypercar.........." thing.
   
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No Country SpecifiedSomewhere
Mar 14 2012, 3:15 AM #68
SuperShouden Diamond Member
The Sweeds vs. the Germans...interesting. Yes, I know Bugatti is technically French, but Lamborghini is also technically Italian, but there's a reason a lot of people think Lamborghini is German....because....besides the body new bodies....they are. It's an Italian shell on and German car. Bugatti, though, like Bentley, it pretty much just German anymore. The Engine's a VW/Audi W16, and the Veyron itself came about when VW wanted to make a 300mph car. They didn't succeed in that goal...although, without the speed limiter, I'm sure the fat lady can hit 300 easily.
   
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United StatesNC
Mar 14 2012, 6:06 AM #69
Crushed Band Member
Then why would they use a speed limiter?
   
daan's Avatar
Mar 14 2012, 6:13 AM #70
daan Hey Hey Online Now!
I believe the Veyron has a speed limiter in order to protect the tyres.

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and the Veyron itself came about when VW wanted to make a 300mph car.
No they didn't. The whole aim of the Veyron was to make a car that had 1000bhp, that was capable of 400kmh (~250mph) and that was as easy to drive and reliable as a Golf.

If you don't know, don't just make stuff up.
   
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ScotlandPort Glasgow
Mar 14 2012, 6:16 AM #71
Classic #15YearsOfGT
Yeah, That's what I believe too.
   
EnglandLancaster
Mar 14 2012, 6:25 AM #72
Harvey51 New Member
Eric,

The roads here in England are that quiet that 250mph could be a daily event, too and from work.
   
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Mar 14 2012, 6:50 AM #73
Exorcet Incompressible Member
tlowr4 View Post
^^ Umm....nnoo??

I'm confused, but no, not in that aspect. I meant performance manufacturers, and the way I see it is essentially with each new model is aimed to be more, and bigger, and better. Working their way to the top. The only demand for 250MPH cars, is by the manufactures themselves. However, to reach the milestone that the Veyron had, in a single car, would take monstrous effort on their parts.
250 mph cars are ancient. We had them in the 1930's. The hardest part would be making a 250+ mph car that was as comfortable and that has as much appeal. Reaching the speed itself is probably something most manufacturers could do.
   
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South KoreaNorth Korea
Mar 14 2012, 7:04 AM #74
TheCracker Nothing to see here... Online Now!
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250 mph cars are ancient. We had them in the 1930's. The hardest part would be making a 250+ mph car that was as comfortable and that has as much appeal. Reaching the speed itself is probably something most manufacturers could do.
Anyone can make a car that could potentially reach over 250mph, all you need is a powerful enough engine and a slippery shape. Making one that is useable every day is another matter. Tyres are the limiting factor at the moment.

It's all irrelevant willy-wagging anyway. If the only places on earth where these 250mph+ speeds can be reached are a handful of privately owned test tracks, then no owner is ever going to clock those speeds anyway. You could potentially reach 200mph on the autobahn on a daily basis, although i imagine the window for doing so is getting smaller every day. But it does at least make a 200mph capable car a realistic target. Maxing an F40 > Driving a Veyron/Agera/Whatever at 4/5ths it's potential.
   
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Mar 14 2012, 7:22 AM #75
Exorcet Incompressible Member
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It's all irrelevant willy-wagging anyway.
I pretty much agree. I have almost no interest in a car's ability to reach these speeds.

If I had a car like this, I'd probably put some massive wings on them and make use of all that power to overcome the drag from a high downforce set up for track days. It would be lucky to reach 200 mph.
   
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Mar 14 2012, 2:29 PM #76
squirlybmx Diamond Member
daan
I believe the Veyron has a speed limiter in order to protect the tyres.

No they didn't. The whole aim of the Veyron was to make a car that had 1000bhp, that was capable of 400kmh (~250mph) and that was as easy to drive and reliable as a Golf.

If you don't know, don't just make stuff up.
I'm pretty sure the W12 Nardo project became the Veyron. And the point of this car is to simply do it because you can. Why did we go to the moon? What benefit did it have on the earth besides simply saying "we did it"?
   
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Mar 14 2012, 3:14 PM #77
MatskiMonk Huge Member
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Why did we go to the moon? What benefit did it have on the earth besides simply saying "we did it"?
Well.. Progress.. and for what we learned along the way, and what it taught us about ourselves as a race. In the end not really comparable to building a car, like someone said previously, VW didn't build the Veyron for the consumer, they built it for themselves...

Also like someone else said, at these speeds it's kind of irrelevant because of the space required to reach the top speed, if straight-line speeds is your bag... 0-200mph times are probably more worth gloating about, and 1/4 times, since it's pretty easy to go to a RWYB at your local strip,.. turning up to Ehra Leissen isn't really as convenient. I'm sure the Veyron does pretty well at these too..
   
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United StatesBay Area, CA
Mar 14 2012, 3:16 PM #78
Zenith Danger Zone!!!
Besides learning about space travel, the origins of our planet and the moon, and inspiring an optimism about technology for an entire generation? Do you have any idea what getting to the moon in back entails?

There are tribes in jungles that have next to no experience with civilization that know the names of astronauts.
   
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United StatesNC
Mar 14 2012, 6:43 PM #79
Crushed Band Member
So anyone here like the Koenigsegg Better than the veyron? I hope that rumor is true.
   
Conza's Avatar
AustraliaMelbourne
Mar 14 2012, 7:25 PM #80
Conza Euro Caraholic
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Rumor ≠ What it can really do
Ditto - take it to Volkswagen's massive track (if they'll let you), and do the test, then talk to us Konegsegggeseshehgesgesgegegssessg
   

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