"Standards" the good, the bad and the ugly

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SkilledRacer
Is there a list of all semi-premium/updated standard cars (Like that Focus) anywhere?
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FastTech
Credit for this list goes to @shirakawaa

Alpine A110 1600S '73
Aston Martin DB7 Vantage Coupe '00
Aston Martin DB9 Coupe '03
Aston Martin V8 Vantage '99
Audi S4 '98
Blitz ER34 D1 SPEC '04
Buick Special
Caterham Fireblade
Chevrolet Camaro SS '00
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Coupe '97
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C2) Race Car '63
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C5) '00
Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 (C4) '90
Citroen 2CV Type A '54
Daihatsu Cuore TR-XX Avanzato R '97
Daihatsu MIRA TR-XX Avanzato R '97
Dodge Charger 440 R/T '70
Ford Focus Rally car '99 (only seams)
Ford Focus RS '02 (only seams)
Ford Focus ST170 '03 (only seams)
Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R '00
Ford RS200 '84
Ford RS200 Rally Car '85
Gran Turismo Formula Gran Turismo
Holden Commodore SS '04
Honda ACCORD Coupe EX '03
Honda CR-X del Sol SiR '92
Honda FIT W '01
Honda JAZZ 1.4 DSi SE Sport '01
Honda PRELUDE Si VTEC '91
Hyundai Coupe FX '01 (but NOT the Hyundai Tiburon/Tuscani)
Isuzu PIAZZA XE '81
Jaguar XJ220 '92
Jaguar XJ220 LM Race Car
Lexus SC 430 (EU) '01
Lexus SC 430 (US) '01
Mazda efini RX-7 Type R (FD) '93
Mazda efini RX-7 Type R-S (FD) '95
Mazda efini RX-7 Type RS (FD) '96
Mazda efini RX-7 Type RZ (FD) '92
Mazda efini RX-7 Type RZ (FD) '93
Mazda efini RX-7 Type RZ (FD) '95
Mazda efini RX-7 Type RZ (FD) '96
Mazda Eunos Roadster J-Limited II (NA) '93
Mazda Eunos Roadster SR-Limited (NA) '97
Mazda Eunos Roadster S-Special Type I (NA) '95
Mazda Eunos Roadster V-Special Type II (NA) '93
Mazda Eunos Roadster VR-Limited (NA) '95
Mazda MX-5 (NA) '89
Mazda MX-5 VR-Limited (NA, J) '95
Mazda MX-5 V-Special Type II (NA, J) '93
Mazda MX-5 Miata (NA) '89
Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited (NA, J) '91
Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited II (NA, J) '93
Mazda MX-5 Miata SR-Limited (NA, J) '97
Mazda MX-5 Miata V-Special Type II (NA, J) '93
Mazda MX-5 Miata VR-Limited (NA) '95
Mazda MX-5 J-Limited (NA, J) '91
Mazda MX-5 J-Limited II (NA, J) '93
Mazda MX-5 S-Special Type I (NA, J) '95
Mazda RX-7 LM Race Car
Mazda RX-7 Type R (FD, J) '91
Mazda RX-7 Type R (FD, J) '93
Mazda RX-7 Type R Bathurst R (FD) '01
Mazda RX-7 Type R-S (FD, J) '95
Mazda RX-7 Type RS (FD, J) '96
Mazda RX-7 Type RS (FD, J) '97
Mazda RX-7 Type RS (FD) '00
Mazda RX-7 Type RS-R (FD, J) '97
Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD, J) '92
Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD, J) '93
Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD, J) '95
Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD, J) '96
Mercedes-Benz CL 600 '00
Mercedes-Benz CLK Touring Car '00
Mercedes-Benz SLK 230 Kompressor '98
Mitsubishi 3000GT MR (J) '95
Mitsubishi 3000GT MR (J) '98
Mitsubishi 3000GT SL (J) '95
Mitsubishi 3000GT SL (J) '96
Mitsubishi 3000GT SL (J) '98
Mitsubishi 3000GT SR (J) '95
Mitsubishi 3000GT SR (J) '96
Mitsubishi 3000GT SR (J) '98
Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 (J) '98
Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 Turbo (J) '95
Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 Turbo (J) '96
Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 Turbo (J) '98
Mitsubishi COLT 1.5 Sport X Version '02
Mitsubishi ECLIPSE Spyder GTS '03
Mitsubishi FTO GR '94
Mitsubishi FTO GR '97
Mitsubishi FTO GP Version R '97
Mitsubishi FTO GP Version R '99
Mitsubishi FTO GPX '94
Mitsubishi FTO GPX '97
Mitsubishi FTO GPX '99
Mitsubishi FTO GT '94
Mitsubishi GTO SR '95
Mitsubishi GTO SR '96
Mitsubishi GTO SR '98
Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo '95
Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo '96
Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo '98
Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo MR '95
Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo MR '98
Mitsubishi MINICA DANGAN ZZ '89
NISMO 400R '96
Nissan 240RS Rally Car '85
Nissan 240SX '96
Nissan 240SX (S14) '96
Nissan 240ZG (HS30) '71
Nissan 300ZX 2by2 (Z32) '98
Nissan 300ZX 2seater (Z32) '89
Nissan 300ZX 2seater (Z32) '98
Nissan Be-1 '87
Nissan EXA Canopy L.A. Version Type S '88
Nissan Fairlady 240ZG (HS30) '71
Nissan Fairlady Z 280Z-L 2seater (S130) '78
Nissan Fairlady Z 300ZX (Z31) '83
Nissan Fairlady Z 300ZX Version S TwinTurbo 2by2 (Z32) '98
Nissan Fairlady Z 300ZX Version R TwinTurbo 2by2 (Z32) '98
Nissan BLUEBIRD 1600 Deluxe (510) '69
Nissan BLUEBIRD Rally Car (510) '69
Nissan PAO '89
Nissan PRIMERA 20V '01
Nissan PRIMERA 20V (EU) '01
Nissan R390 GT1 '98
Nissan R390 GT1 Road Car '98
Nissan SILVIA 240RS (S110) '83
Nissan SILVIA K's AERO (S14) '96
Nissan SILVIA Q's AERO (S14) '96
Nissan SKYLINE 1500Deluxe (S50D-1) '63
Nissan SKYLINE 2000GT-B (S54B) '67
Nissan SKYLINE 2000GT-R (KPGC110) '73
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R (R33) '95
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R (R33) '96
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R (R33) '97
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R N1 (R33) '95
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V-Spec (R33) '95
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V-Spec (R33) '96
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V-Spec (R33) '97
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V-Spec LM Limited (R33) '96
Nissan SKYLINE Hard Top 2000GT-R (KPGC10) '70
Opel Calibra Touring Car '94
Opel Speedster '00
Opel Speedster Turbo '00
Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03 (only seams)
Pagani Zonda C12 '00
Pagani Zonda C12S '00
Pagani Zonda C12S 7.3 '02
Plymouth Superbird '70
Pontiac Sunfire GXP Concept '02
RUF 3400S '00
RUF BTR '86
RUF CTR Yellow Bird '87
RUF CTR2 '96
RUF RGT '00
Scion xA '03
Seat Ibiza Cupra '04
Shelby Series One Super Charged '03
Spoon FIT Race Car '03
Subaru LEGACY B4 Blitzen '00
Subaru LEGACY B4 RSK '98
Suzuki V6 ESCUDO Pikes Peak Special '98
Tommykaira ZZ-S '00
Toyota ALTEZZA AS200 '98
Toyota ALTEZZA RS200 '98
Toyota ALTEZZA Touring Car
Toyota CELICA SS-II (ZZT231) '99
Toyota COROLLA LEVIN GT-APEX (AE86) '83
Toyota ist 1.5S '02
Toyota SOARER 430SCV '01
Toyota SPRINTER TRUENO GT-APEX (AE86) '83
Toyota SPRINTER TRUENO GT-APEX (AE86 Shuichi Shigeno Version) '00
Toyota SUPERAUTOBACS APEX MR-S '00
Vauxhall Calibra Touring Car '94
Vauxhall Speedster '00
Vauxhall Speedster Turbo '00
Vauxhall Vectra 3.2 V6 '03 (only seams)
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More photos of standards from a great distance. Take a picture close up, you'll see the big flaws very easily. Even so already in that Lister I can see the awful textures and low poly body. Just comparing it to this model from GTR2 (released in 2006) that doesn't look that great itself you can see much more detail.

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Just look at the windows and body detail.
 
Samus
Whilst it is less effecient in the long run, since at some point you HAVE to do a new model and any time spent on the standard is essentially wasted what they've done to the standard cars wouldn't have taken THAT long. Mostly all they've done is cleaned up the roughest edges, made shutlines more pronounced than a single black line and updated some shoddy textures.

Sure it wouldn't have been a five minute job but they haven't spent as long on them as you might think.
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It's still time not spent on making actual Premium cars, though - and there are quite a few "touched up" Standards such that we might have missed out on the E30 M3. :P

Well, no, I don't know how long they did spend doing this, either, but it would have been longer than if they'd made those exact meshes from scratch. There's a difference between making the shutlines more "pronounced", i.e. in the texture, and actually cutting the mesh up into its parts (body panels) and making it all "water-tight" again, by the way. Since the PS2 textures are still used in areas where their detail is not replaced by geometry, they would have to be re-mapped to the new mesh, as well.

It would make more sense to re-model the exterior from scratch and not bother with the interior. It'd give a much better result for maybe double the work (I don't know how involved the light clusters are, so that's an over estimation - if I'm right.) They'd outwardly be Premiums, obviously without an interior (which is the main drawback when driving Standards).
 
I think the fact that people go through GT taking pictures of standards, trying to make them look as good as possible to justify their existence in the game tells the tale itself.

Here, I can see more detail in the building behind the car (100ft away) than the car 3 feet in front of the camera.
I guess if you squint hard, ignore the background and shy away from the blemishes, maybe you could convince yourself it really doesn't look bad, maybe even borderline good.
Now look at the building in the background's extra detail. ;)

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Ugly or not, i'm having a blast with the Focus ST. My god, it's awesome for 450pp with sports tires. It was good on GT5, it's marvelous on GT6.
 
Samus
More photos of standards from a great distance. Take a picture close up, you'll see the big flaws very easily. Even so already in that Lister I can see the awful textures and low poly body. Just comparing it to this model from GTR2 (released in 2006) that doesn't look that great itself you can see much more detail.

Lister%20Storm%20GTS.jpg


Just look at the windows and body detail.
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I modded for GTR2 some Race Cars like a Lister Storm GTL, Lotus Elise GT1, Porsche 993 GT1and a Nissan GTP ZX Turbo.

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I think I found the ultimate way to see just how upgraded a standard is, go to photo travel and turn just side lights on, if they are almost fully premium besides interior the headlights won't turn on, A such examples are the 240ZG (HS30) and the Isuzu Piazza, and all miatas
 
I request the Suzuki Alto for those edits.

Pretty please.


edit: another good one would be a standard with a Forza5 car side by side, racing, camera somewhat close.
 
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CSLACR
I think the fact that people go through GT taking pictures of standards, trying to make them look as good as possible to justify their existence in the game tells the tale itself.

Here, I can see more detail in the building behind the car (100ft away) than the car 3 feet in front of the camera.
I guess if you squint hard, ignore the background and shy away from the blemishes, maybe you could convince yourself it really doesn't look bad, maybe even borderline good.
Now look at the building in the background's extra detail. ;)
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Or people just wanna take pictures of redone standards? No tinfoil hat, sorry.
 
Some of the Semi's i so happen to have on my Flickr. I just remembered the RS200 is one, and by chance i bought it and went for a spin, for it to just.. WAW.


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Really had no idea the S4 got such a treatment, because front jaggies. And it's gold because i used to have one and we repainted it such (a '98 A4, though.)


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And aside from RUFs, we have the great Jag. Now if we can get the lights to work like a premium..


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