The Hill - This is the end, beautiful friends, the end

2,623
United Kingdom
Pompey
CyKosis1973
This garage can now be found here:
Clueless, over The Hill Outlaws - GT6 Tunes

High above GT Land, there is a Hill. All the great tracks and the great garages can be seen from here. The air is crisp and fresh, the sun bright and warm. A gentle breeze carries the sound of internal combustion engines being wrung within an inch of their lives.

Grab a glass of iced OJ, pull up a chair and enjoy the view...


Post 2.10 Builds
Online Builds

DS3, ABS 1, everything else off, grip real, tyre wear normal

Shootout Builds

Pre 2.10 Builds
Random Builds

Seasonal Builds

Shootout Builds

 
Last edited:


Based on: Suzuki Swift Sport '07
Obtained: New Car Dealer

Drivetrain: FF
Horsepower: 180 BHP (@ 139 miles w/oil)
Performance Points 410
Torque: ---- 24kgfm/1600rpm
Weight: ---- 1045 kg

PARTS
GT Auto

Oil Change
Prodrive GC-010G Wheels
Front Aero Type A
Rear Wing Type A
Rebuilt motor upon availability

Tuning Shop
Lightweight Windows
Carbon Fiber Hood
ECU Tuning
Sports Intake Manifold
Sports Air Flter
Sports Exhaust Manifold
Sports Catalytic Converter
Titanium Racing Exhaust
Low RPM Turbo
FC Gearbox
Single-Plate Clutch
Sports Flywheel
FC LSD
FC Suspension (HIPERMAX III sport)
Sports Soft tyres

SETUP

Aerodynamics
Downforce: 0/5

Transmission
1st: -- 3.005
2nd: -- 2.027
3rd: -- 1.469
4th: -- 1.124
5th: -- 0.908
6th: -- x.xxx
7th: -- x.xxx
Final: 4.388
Max Speed: 143mph

Drivetrain
Differential

Initial: -- 8
Accel: -- 15
Braking: -- 8

Suspension
Ride Height: -- -15 / -25
Spring Rate: -- 9.0 / 6.0
Extension: -- 4 / 4
Compression: -- 3 / 3
Anti-Roll: -- 2 / 4
Camber: -- 1.1 / 1.1
Toe: -- 0.00 / 0.06

Brake Balance Controller
Brake Balance: 6 / 4

Intended Driving Options
Transmission: Auto (AT)
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF
Controller: Plain old Sixaxis

Tuner Comments:

Original car at http://www.revmods.com/hks-suzuki-swift-sport/

This car is built as close to the HKS Kansai Suzuki Swift Sport as I could get it. Carbon, wheels, paint even the suspension. I also took the liberty of doing all the pipework underneath, chipped it and threw in a low RPM turbo.

I could have stripped more weight out, I could have added more power, but I resisted. The original hasn't had anything done under the hood, and boosting power to only 180bhp seemed reasonable.

Obviously I don't have any PSN at the moment, so I've only been able to test this offline. I ran a one make, two lap race around the 'Ring in it, tyre wear on, grip reduction set to real. I posted a mid 08:2x on the out lap and a low 08:2x on the fast lap, in better hands than mine, I'm sure it can go quicker.
 
Last edited:


Based on: Suzuki CERVO SR '07
Obtained: New Car Dealer

Drivetrain: FR
Horsepower: 133 BHP (@ 142.7 miles w/oil)
Performance Points 412
Torque: ---- 15kgfm/4900rpm
Weight: ---- 774 kg

PARTS
GT Auto

Oil Change
ENKEI JS+M Wheels
Front Aero Type B
Rear Wing Type A
Rebuilt motor upon availability

Tuning Shop
Stage 3 Weight Reduction
Lightweight Windows
Carbon Fibre Hood
Rigidity Improvement
ECU Tuning
Stage 3 Engine Tuning
Sports Intake Manifold
Racing Air Filter
Sports Exhaust Manifold
Sports Catalytic Converter
Titanium Racing Exhaust
High RPM Turbo
FC Gearbox
Twin-Plate Clutch
Semi-Racing Flywheel
FC LSD
FC Suspension (HIPERMAX C-Compact)
Sports Soft tyres

SETUP

Body/Chassis
Aerodynamics

Downforce: -- 0/(between 5 - 8)
Ballast: -- 51kg - +10

Transmission
Transmission

1st: -- 1.960
2nd: -- 1.496
3rd: -- 1.186
4th: -- 0.971
5th: -- 0.821
6th: -- 0.718
7th: -- 0.600
Final: 7.000
Max Speed: 118mph

Drivetrain
Differential

Initial: -- 9
Accel: -- 18
Braking: -- 9

Suspension
Suspension

Ride Height: -- -22 / -8
Spring Rate: -- 4.5 / 3.5
Extension: -- 4 / 4
Compression: -- 4 / 3
Anti-Roll: -- 3 / 5
Camber: -- 1.2 / 0.1
Toe: -- 0.20 / 0.00

Brakes
Brake Balance Controller

Brake Balance: -- 5 / 5

Intended Driving Options
Transmission: Auto (AT)
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF

Tuner Comments:

This car was built to grind the K-Series Seasonal Events. It's capable of putting in consistent sub 0.59sec laps around Eifel 104A and is a great chuckle. A mate of mine is running this with racing slicks and he's apparently put in some 0.55s with it. I think it drives just fine on Sport tyres, it may even drive ok on Comforts. You'll make your money back very quickly with this car, assuming they fix the PSN in the meantime...

Update
Tested online: Autumn Ring Mini, 0:41.385 on S3 tyres...
 
Last edited:
Based on: BMW M3 CSL '03
Obtained: Used Car Dealer

Drivetrain: FR
Horsepower: 353 BHP (@ 18,292.8 miles w/oil)
Performance Points 489
Torque: ---- 37kgfm/4900rpm
Weight: ---- 1385 kg

PARTS
GT Auto

Oil Change
Rebuilt Engine
Rebuild Chasis

Tuning Shop
FC LSD
FC Suspension
Sports Soft tyres

SETUP

Body/Chassis
Aerodynamics

Downforce: -- 0/0
Ballast: -- 0kg - 0

Drivetrain
Differential

Initial: -- 6
Accel: -- 14
Braking: -- 6

Suspension
Suspension

Ride Height: -- -20 / -10
Spring Rate: -- 7.6 / 10.2
Extension: -- 6 / 7
Compression: -- 6 / 7
Anti-Roll: -- 1 / 5
Camber: -- 1.4 / 2.0
Toe: -- -0.03 / 0.12

Brakes
Brake Balance Controller

Brake Balance: -- 7 / 6

Intended Driving Options
Transmission: Auto (AT)
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF

Tuner Comments:

Experimental build, maybe subject to change once I've added more power...
 
Caterham Seven Fire Blade '02

INITIAL R: 8
ACCEL R: 20
BRAKE R: 10
RH F: -8
RH R: 0
SR F: 6.7
SR R: 5.4
EXT F: 2
EXT R: 1
COMP F: 2
COMP R: 1
ROLL BAR F: 3
ROLL BAR R: 1
CAMBER F: 2.0
CAMBER R: 2.6
TOE F: 0.12
TOE R: 0.19
BRAKE F: 6
BRAKE R: 4

EDIT: I tried with the above diff settings, and it's now a little looser. I'll experiment a bit more, as the car has reverted to some of its usual tail happiness with the diff set lower.

I'll also start adding some power and testing on different tracks.
 
Last edited:


Based on: Suzuki Swift Sport '07
Obtained: New Car Dealer

Drivetrain: FF
Horsepower: 175 BHP (@ 267 miles w/oil)
Performance Points 400
Torque: ---- 23kgfm/1600rpm
Weight: ---- 1080 kg

PARTS
GT Auto

Oil Change
Prodrive GC-010G Wheels
Front Aero Type A
Rear Wing Type A
Rebuild motor upon availability

Tuning Shop
Lightweight Windows
Carbon Fiber Hood
ECU Tuning
Sports Intake Manifold
Sports Air Flter
Sports Exhaust Manifold
Sports Catalytic Converter
Titanium Racing Exhaust
Low RPM Turbo
5 Speed Close-Ratio Gearbox
Single-Plate Clutch
Sports Flywheel
FC LSD
FC Suspension (HIPERMAX III sport)
Sports Medium tyres

SETUP

Aerodynamics
Downforce: 0/5

Ballast
Amount: -- 35
Position: -- 35

Engine Power Limiter
Power Level: 100.0%

Transmission
1st: -- x.xxx
2nd: -- x.xxx
3rd: -- x.xxx
4th: -- x.xxx
5th: -- x.xxx
6th: -- x.xxx
7th: -- x.xxx
Final: x.xxx
Max Speed: -

Drivetrain
Differential

Initial: -- 8
Accel: -- 18
Braking: -- 10

Suspension
Ride Height: -- -15 / -25
Spring Rate: -- 9.5 / 5.5
Extension: -- 5 / 4
Compression: -- 5 / 4
Anti-Roll: -- 1 / 4
Camber: -- 1.2 / 1.0
Toe: -- -0.06 / -0.06

Brake Balance Controller
Brake Balance: 6 / 4

Intended Driving Options
Transmission: Auto (AT)
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF
Controller: Plain old Sixaxis

Tuner Comments:

Revised Edition of the HKS Kansai Suzuki Swift Sport, designed for enjoyably close racing around the Tokyo R246 and Tokyo Bay 107A tracks in the World Compact Car Seasonals. If you have a sloppy lap around either of these tracks, don't expect to come 1st. Around the Bay track, the margin is only 2-3secs, which at these speeds you can easily loose in traffic. Enjoy...
 
Based on: Honda Odyssey '03
Obtained: Used Car Dealer

Drivetrain: 4WD
Horsepower: 306 BHP (@ 4,977 miles w/oil)
Performance Points 444
Torque: ---- 23kgfm/1600rpm
Weight: ---- 1384 kg

PARTS
GT Auto

Oil Change
Engine Rebuild, as necessary

Tuning Shop
Stage 3 Weight Reduction
Lightweight Windows
ECU Tuning
Sports Intake Manifold
Racing Air Filter
Sports Exhaust Manifold
Sports Catalytic Converter
Titanium Racing Exhaust
High RPM Turbo
FC Gearbox
Twin-Plate Clutch
Semi-Racing Flywheel
FC LSD
Torque Dist Dif
Carbon Drive Shaft
FC Suspension (C-Wagon+)
Sports Soft tyres

SETUP

Aerodynamics
Downforce: 0/0

Ballast
Amount: -- 0
Position: -- 0

Engine Power Limiter
Power Level: 100.0%

Transmission
Max Speed: -- 162mph
1st: -- 2.259
2nd: -- 1.670
3rd: -- 1.280
4th: -- 1.015
5th: -- 0.829
6th: -- x.xxx
7th: -- x.xxx
Final: 4.437

Drivetrain
Differential

Initial: -- 5 / 8
Accel: -- 15 / 20
Braking: -- 5 / 8

Torque Split
F / R: -- 35 / 65

Suspension
Ride Height: -- -15 / -20
Spring Rate: -- 12.0 / 7.0
Extension: -- 7 / 5
Compression: -- 4 / 3
Anti-Roll: -- 2 / 5
Camber: -- 0.2 / 1.3
Toe: -- 0.00 / 0.04

Brake Balance Controller
Brake Balance: 5 / 4

Intended Driving Options
Transmission: Auto (AT)
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF
Controller: Plain old SixAxis
Comments:

Why?? Just because. Had a friend round last night, found this in the UCD and thought we'd have a crack at it. Found some suspension settings from HKS, jacked them on the bus, then fiddled a bunch more. Here's the result. Enjoy...
 
Based on: Mazda Roadster RS (NC) ‘07
Obtained: New Car Dealer

Tuning Shop
FC Suspension (Hipermax III [80140-AZ003])
Sports Hard tyres

Suspension
Ride Height: -- -0 / -15
Spring Rate: -- 6.0 / 3.6
Extension: -- 7 / 5
Compression: -- 4 / 4
Anti-Roll: -- 2 / 6
Camber: -- 1.1 / 1.7
Toe: -- -0.02 / -0.03

Brake Balance Controller
Brake Balance: 4 / 4

Intended Driving Options
Transmission: Auto (AT)
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF
Controller: Plain old SixAxis

Comments
A little bit of Seasonal fun. This car is completely stock, other than a set of Sport Hard tyres and some custom springs. You should be able to pull off the win on most of the events, but you'll be tested on the Clubman SSR5.
 
Based on: Caterham Seven Fireblade '02
Obtained: Used Car Dealer

Drivetrain: RWD
Horsepower: 165 BHP (@ 8974 miles w/oil)
Performance Points 524
Torque: ---- 13kgfm/9000rpm
Weight: ---- 499 kg

PARTS
GT Auto

Oil Change
Rebuild motor upon availability

Tuning Shop
FC Gearbox
Twin-Plate Clutch
Semi-racing Flywheel
Carbon Driveshaft
FC LSD
FC Suspension
Sports Soft tyres

SETUP

Ballast
Amount: -- 130
Position: -- 0

Engine Power Limiter
Power Level: 100.0%

Transmission
Set Max Speed, then gears, then Final Drive
Max Speed: - 130
1st: -- 5.110
2nd: -- 3.940
3rd: -- 3.130
4th: -- 2.560
5th: -- 2.160
6th: -- 1.870
Final: 3.275

Drivetrain
Differential

Initial: -- 8
Accel: -- 20
Braking: -- 8

Suspension
Ride Height: -- -7 / 0
Spring Rate: -- 6.1 / 5.7
Extension: -- 8 / 7
Compression: -- 5 / 4
Anti-Roll: -- 3 / 1
Camber: -- 1.7 / 2.7
Toe: -- -0.20 / 0.20

Brake Balance Controller
Brake Balance: 5 / 4

Intended Driving Options
Transmission: Auto (AT)
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF
Controller: Plain old Sixaxis

Tuner Comments:

A quick build for RVR's 1st Annual 525PP European Car Shootout!!! Lots of weight added, but this actually brings the car in line with the real thing. I'm not sure about gears on the best of days, this one is a mess. I can't get anything like the real world settings for it, which is a shame, because a lot of this car is based off of a friend's car.

The actual car I used will be kindly shared by OnBoy123...
 
Based on: Caterham Seven Fireblade '02
Obtained: Used Car Dealer

Drivetrain: RWD
Horsepower: 165 BHP (@ 8974 miles w/oil)
Performance Points 524
Torque: ---- 13kgfm/9000rpm
Weight: ---- 499 kg

PARTS
GT Auto

Oil Change
Rebuild motor upon availability

Tuning Shop
FC Gearbox
Twin-Plate Clutch
Semi-racing Flywheel
Carbon Driveshaft
FC LSD
FC Suspension
Sports Soft tyres

SETUP

Ballast
Amount: -- 130
Position: -- 0

Engine Power Limiter
Power Level: 100.0%

Transmission
Set Max Speed, then gears, then Final Drive
Max Speed: - 130
1st: -- 5.110
2nd: -- 3.940
3rd: -- 3.130
4th: -- 2.560
5th: -- 2.160
6th: -- 1.870
Final: 3.275

Drivetrain
Differential

Initial: -- 8
Accel: -- 20
Braking: -- 8

Suspension
Ride Height: -- -7 / 0
Spring Rate: -- 6.1 / 5.7
Extension: -- 8 / 7
Compression: -- 5 / 4
Anti-Roll: -- 3 / 1
Camber: -- 1.7 / 2.7
Toe: -- -0.20 / 0.20

Brake Balance Controller
Brake Balance: 5 / 4

Intended Driving Options
Transmission: Auto (AT)
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF
Controller: Plain old Sixaxis


Hello my friend.
I needed 25 minutes to learn the secrets of this car.
First it was a big oversteer, allways trying to stay on the driving line, wrong way if you want to fight against the car. Te solution is stay on the perfect line, with very smooth mvt on the wheel, brake and acell. The most important is to limit the weight tranfer.
At the end i was able to run 1'32"832. Possible for me a low 1'32"xxx ,but just in case of perfect lap and trajectory.
Fun to drive ,very good pilot car, to learn precision driving..

Congrats, have a good week-end.

sany0015i.jpg
[/QUOTE]
 
Hello my friend.
I needed 25 minutes to learn the secrets of this car.
First it was a big oversteer, allways trying to stay on the driving line, wrong way if you want to fight against the car. Te solution is stay on the perfect line, with very smooth mvt on the wheel, brake and acell. The most important is to limit the weight tranfer.
At the end i was able to run 1'32"832. Possible for me a low 1'32"xxx ,but just in case of perfect lap and trajectory.
Fun to drive ,very good pilot car, to learn precision driving..

Congrats, have a good week-end.

Hi Praiano,

Thank you for the above, I appreciate the feedback. Sorry for the slow reply, I’ve had some internet issues. Boy do they make them quick in your neighbourhood..!! There’s no slowing you Brazilians down is there..?? A 1:32 is a brilliant time with this wee little motor.

I’m glad you took the time to get to know the car, I hope you enjoyed driving it. Your description of how to handle it is exactly right, minimal inputs and carry as much speed as you can.

I believe had this car been implemented correctly by Polyphony, it would be the Supercar killer it is in real life. The model chosen by PD is rare and obscure, and I believe they got the weight and the gearbox wrong. They’d have been better off replicating the normal Caterham Superlight or even the CSR.

You can find some information on these cars here; http://www.caterham.co.uk/assets/html/showroom/superlightr500.html
You’ll notice that not one of them is even close to the 396kg of the Caterham in GT5. And you’ve no chance of replicating the gear ratios listed. Shame.

Speaking of gearboxes and ratios, I used your method for this car. I didn’t have enough time to tailor it specifically to the track. Did you find the gears long enough for the start/finish straight?? As an auto shifter, I set the top end to arrive just as I braked for the hairpin. It did occur to me that faster drivers might hit the limit before this corner.

Once again, thank you kindly Sir,
{Cy}
 
Hi Praiano,

Thank you for the above, I appreciate the feedback. Sorry for the slow reply, I’ve had some internet issues. Boy do they make them quick in your neighbourhood..!! There’s no slowing you Brazilians down is there..?? A 1:32 is a brilliant time with this wee little motor.

I’m glad you took the time to get to know the car, I hope you enjoyed driving it. Your description of how to handle it is exactly right, minimal inputs and carry as much speed as you can.

I believe had this car been implemented correctly by Polyphony, it would be the Supercar killer it is in real life. The model chosen by PD is rare and obscure, and I believe they got the weight and the gearbox wrong. They’d have been better off replicating the normal Caterham Superlight or even the CSR.

You can find some information on these cars here; http://www.caterham.co.uk/assets/html/showroom/superlightr500.html
You’ll notice that not one of them is even close to the 396kg of the Caterham in GT5. And you’ve no chance of replicating the gear ratios listed. Shame.

Speaking of gearboxes and ratios, I used your method for this car. I didn’t have enough time to tailor it specifically to the track. Did you find the gears long enough for the start/finish straight?? As an auto shifter, I set the top end to arrive just as I braked for the hairpin. It did occur to me that faster drivers might hit the limit before this corner.

Once again, thank you kindly Sir,
{Cy}

You're welcome my friend, drive your car is a great pleasure. For the gears i don't rememer exactly but it was fine. For the cork screw ,don't need to hit the limit , no late braking too, just stay on the right till the last little panel and dive in the screw with soft and steady movements on the direction, don't loose the rear after the compression downhill.
There is some vid on the tube to check how the best racers do, very educative.
Have a good day. Let's race this carterham online this week end with some other people...👍👍:)
 
Tuner Comments:

Built for the "600 PP Road Car Shootout @ Indy". I will be hosting the car myself, so please send me a FR if you haven't already. PM me here if I haven't replied to a request.

This is a heavy, leery beast, much like the Caterham, it spends its life within milliseconds of pandemonium. I concentrated on the Road Course and tuned there almost exclusively. I figured if I could make the final corner of the Road Course at speed, then it would fair well enough at the Oval. Time will tell. I've personally put this around the Road Course in 1:29.6.

Don't turn your back on this car, it'll likely club you around the head if you do ... you have been warned ... :mischievous:

6080486134_a35ec14349.jpg


Based on: Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG '10
Obtained: New Car Dealer

Drivetrain: RWD
Horsepower: 734 BHP (@ 370.8 miles NO OIL)
Performance Points: 600
Torque: ---- 87kgfm/5100rpm
Weight: ---- 1605 kg

PARTS

GT Auto

Prodrive GC-010G
Front Type A
DO NOT Oil the car..!!

Tuning Shop
Window Reduction
Carbon Bonnet
Rigidity Improvement
Sports ECU
Engine Tuning Stage 2
Sports Intake Manifold
Racing Air Filter
Sports Exhaust Manifold
Sports Catalytic Converter
Titanium Racing Exhaust
Supercharger
FC Gearbox
Twin-Plate Clutch
Semi-racing Flywheel
Carbon Driveshaft
FC LSD
FC Suspension
Race Medium tyres

SETUP

Ballast
Amount: -- 0
Position: -- 0

Engine Power Limiter
Power Level: 98.3%

Transmission
Set to Default
Set Final Gear -- 5.500
Set Max Speed -- 137mph
Then set gears as below
1st: -- 2.629
2nd: -- 2.045
3rd: -- 1.645
4th: -- 1.355
5th: -- 1.145
6th: -- 0.990
7th -- 0.888
Set Final Drive -- 3.450
Max Speed: -- Should be 211mph

Drivetrain
Differential

Initial: -- 5
Accel: -- 16
Braking: -- 16

Suspension
Ride Height: -- -2 / -17
Spring Rate: -- 10.8 / 12.4
Extension: -- 8 / 8
Compression: -- 6 / 7
Anti-Roll: -- 6 / 3
Camber: -- 2.7 / 1.4
Toe: -- -0.24 / 0.20

Brake Balance Controller
Brake Balance: 4 / 7

Intended Driving Options
Transmission: Auto (AT)
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF
Controller: Plain old SixAxis
 
Tuner Comments:
Inspired by THIS, have you got what it takes to lap the Nordschleife in 07:14?? With a remapped ECU, less weight, stickier tyres and a custom gearbox, this LFA has been built for the Nordschleife. Don't forget this car doesn't have the downforce that the real one does and it still weighs a slightly portly 1370kg, so exercise caution!!

Tested online.

Large%20Image.jpg


Based on: Lexus LFA '10
Obtained: New Car Dealer

Drivetrain: RWD
Horsepower: 564 BHP (@ 404.1 miles NO OIL)
Performance Points: 550
Torque: ---- 49kgfm/7200rpm
Weight: ---- 1370 kg

PARTS

GT Auto

BBS RE-MG Wheels (Matte Black)
DO NOT Oil the car..!!

Tuning Shop
Weight Reduction 1
Sports ECU
FC Gearbox
FC LSD
FC Suspension
Sport Soft Tyres

SETUP

Ballast
Amount: -- 9
Position: -- 0

Engine Power Limiter
Power Level: 98.8%

Transmission
Set to Default
Set Final Gear -- 5.000
Set Max Speed -- 137mph
Then set gears as below
1st: -- 4.002
2nd: -- 2.651
3rd: -- 1.952
4th: -- 1.547
5th: -- 1.300
6th: -- 1.084
Set Final Drive -- 3.350
Max Speed: -- Should be 216 mph

Drivetrain
Differential

Initial: -- 7
Accel: -- 15
Braking: -- 10

Suspension
Ride Height: -- -10 / -12
Spring Rate: -- 10.6 / 10.8
Extension: -- 6 / 6
Compression: -- 5 / 5
Anti-Roll: -- 3 / 4
Camber: -- 2.3 / 1.7
Toe: -- -0.08 / 0.08

Brake Balance Controller
Brake Balance: 4 / 3

Intended Driving Options
Transmission: Auto (AT)
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF
Controller: Plain old SixAxis

6131985339_a2e002e350_z.jpg
 
Tuner Comments:
Built for the ZedTunes' Autumn/Fall Rally Shootout 2011.

6175305123_e0e0f3c6f4_b.jpg


FRONT-WHEEL DRIVE: I’ve left discussion of this until this point because you need to understand left-foot braking and handbrakes to understand an interesting aspect of FWD rally cars and why they can be very fast: with FWD, left-foot braking can work like a handbrake, without the disadvantage of not shifting weight forward. Confused? Think of it this way: using the throttle and brake at the same time on a FWD car is exactly the opposite of doing a brakestand with a RWD car: with FWD you can keep the front wheels spinning (with the engine overpowering the brakes) and slow down or lock up the rears. So as you enter a corner and want to initiate a slide, you can turn the direction you want to go and then apply the brakes while you hold the throttle – the weight will transfer forward (better than with the handbrake, as the front wheels will slow down a little) and your left foot now has control over the speed differential between the front and rear wheels. You can pretty much make a FWD car turn around its nose this way, and this is the reason that no FWD rally car should ever have to worry about understeer. With my ex-factory Lada, you would basically never lift the throttle and just use the brake according to how tight any corner was. It was fantastic. And it’s why many front-wheel drive cars from the Saab 96 to the Mini Cooper to the VW Golf have been great rally cars, and on slippery surfaces far superior to their RWD competition. Now you know.
SOURCE


Based on: Peugeot 206 S16 '99
Obtained: Used Car Dealer or Rally Base Ticket

Drivetrain: FWD
Horsepower: 177BHP/5900rpm (@ 1,678.4 miles)
Performance Points: 405
Torque: ---- 26kgfm/3600rpm
Weight: ---- 1125 kg

PARTS

GT Auto

Peugeot Jaune Genêt paint
Aero
Oil - As applicable
Engine Rebuild - As applicable

Tuning Shop
Window Reduction
Rigidity Improvement
Sports Intake Manifold
Racing Air FIlter
Sports Exhaust Manifold
Sports Exhaust
Low RPM Turbo
FC Gearbox
Clutch: Twin Plate
Flywheel: Semi-Racing
FC LSD
FC Suspension
Sport Medium, Dirt or Snow Tyres

SETUP

Ballast
Amount: -- 55kg
Position: -- 0

Engine Power Limiter
Power Level: 100%

Transmission
Set to Default
Set Max Speed -- 112mph
Set Final Drive -- 2.500
Then set gears as below
1st: -- 3.128
2nd: -- 2.331
3rd: -- 1.816
4th: -- 1.469
5th: -- 1.232
6th: -- 1.043
Set Final Drive -- 3.100
Max Speed: -- Should be 139mph

Drivetrain
Differential

Initial: -- 7
Accel: -- 21
Braking: -- 7

Suspension
Ride Height: -- +18 / +10
Spring Rate: -- 5.1 / 3.2
Extension: -- 6 / 7
Compression: -- 4 / 5
Anti-Roll: -- 1 / 5
Camber: -- 1.8 / 0.0
Toe: -- 0.00 / -0.05

Brake Balance Controller
Brake Balance: 4 / 5

Intended Driving Options
Transmission: Auto (AT)
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF
Controller: Plain old SixAxis
 
Just used the above Pug 206 S16 for the Seasonal Tsukuba Time Trial, good for low 1:11 laps on Comfort Medium tyres. It's a bit of a handful and far from perfect, but hey, Cr1mil is Cr1mil.

As of writing I hit a 1:11.294 and was a massively impressive 11832nd in THE WURLDZ :sly:

For those of you on my FR list, I'll whack it back up on share in a sec, so you don't even have to build the car yourself. There's a 206 RC there that'll get round in a similar time. Enjoy...

{Cy}
 
Tuner Comments:
Built for the 1st Annual Fall Roadster Battle! - I am currrently sharing this car.

A car your Wife can drive to work during the week and you can thrash at the track on the weekend.

There's more motion in the suspension than most will be used to or expecting. This is a Sports build, not a Race build. Going into the hairpins, start your braking sooner rather than later, lift through the apex and get on it as soon as you dare. Through the chicanes, there should be plenty of grip, but push it too hard and it will start to wobble and the rear will break away from you.

I hope you'll find it a forgiving car, if not the fastest...

6317945441_36211ff6e2_b.jpg


Based on: Mazda Roadster RS (NC) '07
Obtained: New Car Dealer

Drivetrain: RWD
Horsepower: 235 BHP (@ 566.6 miles)
Performance Points: 450
Torque: ---- 25kgfm/7000rpm
Weight: ---- 947 kg

PARTS

GT Auto

Oil x2
Mazda Evolution Orange Mica
Motegi Racing TOUGE (matte black)

Tuning Shop
Weight Reduction 3
Window Reduction
Carbon Bonnet

Engine Tuning Stage 3
Sports ECU

Sports Air Filter

Sports Exhaust

FC Gearbox

Clutch: Twin-Plate
Flywheel: Semi-Racing
Carbon Propeller
FC LSD

FC Suspension

Sport Medium

SETUP

Ballast
Amount: -- 16
Position: -- -50

Engine Power Limiter
Power Level: 97.5%

Transmission
Set to Default
Set Final Gear -- 5.500
Set Max Speed -- 112mph
Then set gears as below
1st: -- 2.574
2nd: -- 1.908
3rd: -- 1.482
4th: -- 1.201
5th: -- 1.015
6th: -- 0.855
Set Final Drive -- 5.150
Max Speed: -- Should be 132 mph

Drivetrain
Differential

Initial: -- 7
Accel: -- 14
Braking: -- 7

Suspension
Ride Height: -- -3 / -10
Spring Rate: -- 9.8 / 9.2
Extension: -- 7 / 6
Compression: -- 5 / 4
Anti-Roll: -- 2 / 4
Camber: -- 1.7 / 1.2
Toe: -- -0.12 / 0.00

Brake Balance Controller
Brake Balance: 3 / 2

Intended Driving Options
Transmission: Auto (AT)
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF
Controller: Plain old SixAxis

6317960513_eb02f37e16_z.jpg
 
Last edited:
6430090881_7c2ba2fb22_z.jpg


Based on: Jaguar XKR Coupe '10
Obtained: New Car Dealer

Drivetrain: RWD
Horsepower: 764 BHP / 6900rpm (@ 244.4 miles)
Torque: 93kgfm / 3400rpm
Performance Points: 579
Weight: ---- 1815 kg

PARTS

GT Auto

Oil
Front Aero
Rear Aero
Rear Wing
Forest Green Metallic
RAYS VOLK TRINITI V

Tuning Shop
Window Reduction
Carbon Bonnet
Engine Tuning Stage 3
Sports ECU
Sports Intake Manifold
Racing Air Filter
Sports Exhaust Manifold
Catalytic Converter: Sports
Titanium Exhaust
Supercharger
FC Gearbox
Clutch: Twin-Plate
Flywheel: Semi-Racing
Carbon Propeller
FC LSD
FC Suspension

Sports Soft

SETUP

Ballast
Amount: -- 20
Position: -- -50

Aero
Amount: -- 0 / 10

Engine Power Limiter
Power Level: 100%

Transmission
Set to Default
Set Max Speed -- 124mph
Set Final Gear -- 2.000
Then set gears as below
1st: -- 4.278
2nd: -- 3.159
3rd: -- 2.448
4th: -- 1.985
5th: -- 1.699
6th: -- 1.405

Drivetrain
Differential

Initial: -- 8
Accel: -- 16
Braking: -- 9

Suspension
Ride Height: -- -20 / -20
Spring Rate: -- 10.8 / 8.4
Extension: -- 8 / 8
Compression: -- 7 / 7
Anti-Roll: -- 2 / 6
Camber: -- 2.5 / 2.0
Toe: -- -0.12 / 0.26

Brake Balance Controller
Brake Balance: 6 / 5

Intended Driving Options
Transmission: Auto (AT)
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF
Controller: Plain old SixAxis
 
It's Seasonal time again..!! I've resisted posting here as I had to convince myself that I had put Sport Hard tyres on the damned thing and not Sport Softs..!! Turns out I had :sly: It can win at any track, although I've yet to encounter the '05 Mini at Fuji. Enjoy...

Peugeot 207 GTi.

No oil
ECU
FC suspension
FC diff
5 or 6 speed close ratio box for short courses, stock 'box for Fuji
Sports Hard tyres

188 BHP
1260 KG
400 PP
116.7 Miles on the clock, so still a bit of breaking in to do.

INITIAL R: 6
ACCEL R: 16
BRAKE R: 8

RH F: -12
RH R: -15
SR F: 10.6
SR R: 4.6
EXT F: 5
EXT R: 4
COMP F: 7
COMP R: 6
ARB F: 2
ARB R: 5
CAMBER F: 2.2
CAMBER R: 1.0
TOE F: -0.08
TOE R: -0.08
BRAKE F: 5
BRAKE R: 6
 
Last edited:
6681533603_7f8e6ca9d7_b.jpg

Clueless Tunes - Classic Car Shootout

Based on: Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 '70
Obtained: Used Car Dealer

Drivetrain: RWD
Horsepower: 486 BHP
Performance Points: 498
Weight: ---- 1585 kg

GT Auto
Oil
Engine Rebuild
Chasis Restoration

Tuning Shop
Weight Reduction Stage 1
Racing Air Filter
FC Tranny
Clutch: Twin-Plate
Flywheel: Semi-Racing
FC Diff
Carbon Propeller Shaft
FC Suspension
Sports Soft Tyres

Ballast
Amount: -- 0
Position: -- 0

Aero
Amount: -- 0 / 0

Engine Power Limiter
Power Level: 100%

Transmission
Set to Default

Differential
Initial: -- 7
Accel: -- 14
Braking: -- 7

Suspension
Ride Height: -- -8 / -18
Spring Rate: -- 12.6 / 5.5
Extension: -- 7 / 5
Compression: -- 5 / 3
Anti-Roll: -- 2 / 4
Camber: -- 2.4 / 1.2
Toe: -- -0.12 / 0.18

Brake Balance Controller
Brake Balance: 5 / 7

Intended Driving Options
Transmission: Auto (AT)
ABS: 1
Everything else: OFF
Controller: DualShock 3
 
Last edited:
oh a 500pp ish Chevelle :D
this could be fun i really need to test this one out , won't be in the next couple of days sadly , still having steering wheel issues but as soon as i do review will be written
 
i'm having mayor problems viewing my gt5 friendslist , players / drivers / cars not showing ... everything in the game works perfectly but joining a friends lobby for example takes me about 10min to see his profile so i can enter
 
Car is defo on share, I've just been back on the check. I have issues too with seeing shared cars. Last Shootout, xDesperado have 7 cars on share, two of them identical, weird...

{Cy}
 
Back