Oni's Time Trial Challenge
- Thread starter Oniichan
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- 499
- Hobart, Tas
- X3rx3s44
Don't try this!... Unless you have already
It does indeed up your torque, the downside being;
When you use the power limiter, you effectively give yourself maximum power over a longer band of rpm. This will in-turn up your PP reducing the maximum power you can have.
For example, the 430 Scuderia you drive can have 470BHP (IIRC) with stock mods and 1380kg and gives you 470BHP over about a 1500rpm range. If you then go and add mods, your torque goes up (marginally) and you may only be able to have 450BHP but it will be spread over a band of 3000rpm plus. This may sound more attractive, but is actually slower because if the Scuderia is geared correctly you operate over about a 1750-2250rpm range (IIRC again), effectively wasting 750rpm of peak power but still getting hit with the PP rise that comes from it. I have tried this with the F430 and found that an untuned version was faster than a tuned one for this exact reason.
My 458 I used had all the mods and I have no doubt I could go substantially faster if I bought another one fresh with no mods other than bringing weight down to the required level.
Problem being, with my B-spec drivers stuck in cyber space, I'm too lazy and/or cheap to invest in a new 458...
As for the tune of a Scuderia, I will give you my 458 tune (IIRC yet again) and that should not be too far wrong, although the Scuderia I believe has more understeer so you may need to work on that, try placing ballast at +50 and see if that helps... 👍
Aero: Minimum or Zero
Ballast: ~150kg @ +15 (but depends on how much you have)
Transmission: 280-90 (Gears to suit driving style)
LSD: 10/30/5
Suspension:
Minimum +8/Minimum +5
8.5/10.0
6/7
5/6
5/6
Camber & Toe:
0.5/0.0
0.00/0.00
Brake Balance: 4/3
Give that a go and see if it helps. I ran ABS=1 and nothing else with that setup or, at least, very similar to that! Can't remember... It has been over 5 days since I ran this challenge last...
- 1,099
- Sydney
- oni_chan
Check out RKM. They have a great tune for the Scuderia! Drives like a dream. I'd just reduce the camber on the rear to 0.4 (gives you better drive out of corners).
Nice time mate! Puts you at the top of the fastest times using driving aids! I wonder it whitehare will respond as you took his top spot
- 29,588
- Thailand
I played with tuning last night on the 430 Scuda and managed to shave off a little but still cannot crack the 1:43 region. A 1:44:2** was the best I could get after half and hour of runs.
I've opted against the power mods in favour of tweaking the gears and playing with the camber and toe angles.
I ran the DB9 but couldn't find a groove with it. Saying that I've still not managed a completely perfect lap in the Ferrari. I lead the ghost by a second or so and then I'm a little to slow through the long sweeping right hander or I'm behind and make it up on the tight S bend 3/4 the way around but still no perfect lap.
I'm determined not to give up on this. Soon enough I'll have time to do lap after lap and get in the zone, when that happens I think I can bring my time down.
I've opted against the power mods in favour of tweaking the gears and playing with the camber and toe angles.
I ran the DB9 but couldn't find a groove with it. Saying that I've still not managed a completely perfect lap in the Ferrari. I lead the ghost by a second or so and then I'm a little to slow through the long sweeping right hander or I'm behind and make it up on the tight S bend 3/4 the way around but still no perfect lap.
I'm determined not to give up on this. Soon enough I'll have time to do lap after lap and get in the zone, when that happens I think I can bring my time down.
- 1,090
- Australia
- OnlineGT
Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 '08
BHP: 480
Weight: 1380
PP: 536
Driver Aids: ABS-1
Time: 1'45.817
Controller Type: DS3
Here's a time for the Gallardo Gents, I think the Lambo suffers because it is 4wd. The acceleration understeer is virtually impssible to completely eliminate; even with the Front-Rear Torque distribution set to 10/90.
There is a bit more time in it...probably about 0.3 for me.
...So now the question remains...how did you find it Oni?💡
R*
BHP: 480
Weight: 1380
PP: 536
Driver Aids: ABS-1
Time: 1'45.817
Controller Type: DS3
Here's a time for the Gallardo Gents, I think the Lambo suffers because it is 4wd. The acceleration understeer is virtually impssible to completely eliminate; even with the Front-Rear Torque distribution set to 10/90.
There is a bit more time in it...probably about 0.3 for me.
...So now the question remains...how did you find it Oni?💡
R*
- 29,588
- Thailand
Jesus! What am I missing here! Am I using the wrong car (430 Scuda) or are you guys just hammering perfect laps time after time? That time is almost 2 seconds faster than my best and I don't consider my self a bad racer.
Can I ask how long it took you to set up the car and put in that lap time quadramus ?
And does the SRF not slow you down? I find that thing impossible to work with, feels like TCS to me.
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- 1,099
- Sydney
- oni_chan
oh the battle is on now between you and whitehare!
I dont have my exact setup on hand at the moment. But off memory i used 40/40 for my torque and the added downforce helped keep it in check. That and i loaded up my 430 ghost and then took a few laps to stick with it. 430 has better turn in and drive out of corners but the Gallardo has high cornering speed.
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The Audi R8 is set up for my style of driving where breaking early helps, I have driven this car with and without aids and it is much faster with srf on than off I'll send you my settings have a crack, and it took me about 20 minutes or so to get the lap, there is no reason why you can't go as fast or quicker.... good luck
- 29,588
- Thailand
I found the same, the Ferrari can really handle corners well but cannot keep up as much speed as the Lambo, must be the 4WD system keeping things in check.
This sounds like a dumb question but I've never seen it answered anywhere on this forum and it's driving me crazy. - Can the ghost be turned off? Mostly I don't mind it but it distracts me both front and behind when I'm on a hot lap!
- 499
- Hobart, Tas
- X3rx3s44
- 626
- Lost-on-drugz
Hey mate been havin a little craack it best ive run so far is
( 1:44.2 ) in the camaro ss 10 468 hp 1380kg
racing hard
no driving aids
no abs
dualshock 3 controller.. try do some more tunning and see if i can get it down
( 1:44.2 ) in the camaro ss 10 468 hp 1380kg
racing hard
no driving aids
no abs
dualshock 3 controller.. try do some more tunning and see if i can get it down
- 626
- Lost-on-drugz
OOO and whats the deal with the ACURA NSX as thats american not japanse made.. LOL bet u were waiting for that wernt ya =D
- 1,099
- Sydney
- oni_chan
Yeah that is not allowed as ACURA is still a Japanese company. Allowing the NSX would be allowing the Lexus LFA which would dominate on Tokyo.
- 626
- Lost-on-drugz
oh i thought i was the only one in the camaro ill use a different car and see what i can do..
- 626
- Lost-on-drugz
Audi r8 4.2
460 bhp
1400kg
540 pp
no aids, no abs, ds3
(1:43.7)
tryed alot of other cars no one has put up here and cant even get competitive with them.,
460 bhp
1400kg
540 pp
no aids, no abs, ds3
(1:43.7)
tryed alot of other cars no one has put up here and cant even get competitive with them.,
- 626
- Lost-on-drugz
yeah my 1:43.7 was .727
ill have to try those 2 cars out quadramus !!
ill have to try those 2 cars out quadramus !!
