1/4 mi. competition (real life simulator) ($ 30k limit)

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Guys who are lookin for a more muscle car oriented challenge, wlel I have your answer.
The GT4 Muscle Car Challenge
The rules:
Any muscle car you want
$25K in mods.
Nitrous, wings and tires all count towards the $25K.
The challenge has options:
1/4 mile run, just go *****in fast

Time Trails, four tracks, do your best to make these hunkers put up quick laps:
Tracks:
Nurburgring
Laguna Seca
Infineon Raceway Sports Car Track
Test Track (big oval)

I have set-up a site for this that the times will be listed on.
www.joshx.freeservers.com
Also, the car list is posted there, only the cars listed will have times posted.
To get your times onto the site, just pm me here, hit me on AIM, or email me.
And lnclude what mods you used and your settings. The rules and car and track list are all there for future reference. Good Luck and have fun...
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thats a cool idea but could you add a track ... circuit de la sarthe II? i love this track for testing my cars ... mainly cause i cant even make a lap on the nurb lol .. well i can but the amount of tries it takes just doesnt make it worth it :P
 
so are we gonna have catigories? we should setup separate threads, and only post if you beat someone's time...

so... FF is what im gonna run...

what do u guys think?

-jaxx
 
cobra427
thats a cool idea but could you add a track ... circuit de la sarthe II? i love this track for testing my cars ... mainly cause i cant even make a lap on the nurb lol .. well i can but the amount of tries it takes just doesnt make it worth it :P
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I actualy forgot about that track so heck yeah I'm adding it.
I also gotta add a Camaro I found in the used car lot.
 
i still say we need a 10, 15, 20, 25, 50, 75, 100k (etc.) bracket for those who want more or less power options
 
XVII
i still say we need a 10, 15, 20, 25, 50, 75, 100k (etc.) bracket for those who want more or less power options
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yea that would be nice but it would be way too much to maintain like we are do'n this .... and someone has allready tried to start a 50k but got rejected so i dont think they are gonna let us make any new threads ....
 
My new car test:
Car: Honda Civic Type R (EK) '98
Best time: 15.106 (achieved holding R2 to get a longer time on 2nd gear) (no nitrous)

Cost:
Civic: 12,984cr
Oil Change: 50cr
Semi Racing Exhaust: 2,800cr
Racing Chip: 1,000cr
Turbine Kit Stage 2: 12,500cr
Free Items:
Full Tranny
Full limited Slip
Full Suspension
Final Cost: 29,334cr

Original HP: 165
HP Added 122
Final HP: 287
Final weight: 1,050
Final p/w ratio: 3.66

Tuning:
Sports M2 Tires
Suspension:
Spring Rate Front: 3.4 (lowest)
Spring Rate Rear: 2.1(lowest)
Ride Height Front: 89 (lowest)
Ride Height Rear: 162 (highest)

Tranny:
Auto: 18
Final: 4.250
1st Gear: 2.446 (widest possible)
2nd Gear: 1.737 (made it wider till the car reached top speed)
3rd Gear: 1.360 (making the gear shallower made it faster)
4th, 5th, 6th gears are not used in this test and are left as default

Weight Distribution:
Ballast: 100kg added
Front/Rear Balance: -50 (all the weight to the front)

TCS: 6

I am very happy with this time. I started out with 15.6xx and as I kept tuning, and playing with settings I was very happy to see the time keep going down, and down and down. This car responds to tuning WAAAYYY better than that stupid skyline which would not move its time at all.

I will come back and put NOS in this car. I want to see how fast I can get it.
 
you know if the car has a low end power you might wanna try use'n a manual tranny and start'n in second .... you can also shorten the gears alot for faster accel when start'n in second as you will not spin as much


and once you get used to it you will actually get better times than auto even start'n in 1st and use'n the same settings


you should look for the 2001 CIVIC TYPE R (EP)


212HP and with 16k miles is only 14299C


and im not the best at suspension tuning but to me it looks like your weight trasfer is really crazy ... you got the right idea if transfer'n all the cars weight to the front but at the same time whe you take off with such soft springs its gonna slam the rear down and actually take alot of weight off the front



but as i said i dont know that much about susp tuning ... ive allways concintrated on gearing in all the GT games
 
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Finally, I break into the 10's! Took me long enough. :crazy:

It's the Camaro I've been tweaking on. I'll restate everything since it's a few pages back with the listed information for my car.

1997 Chevrolet Camaro Z28

With N2O

50 Shot Nitrous: $5000
Supercharger: $13,500
Racing Chip: $1500
Stage 1 Weight Reduction: $1200
Oil Change $50
Base cost of car: $8438
Total cost: $29,688
Best 1/4 mile time: 10.987

Without Nitrous
Supercharger: $13,500
Racing Chip: $1500
Semi-racing exhaust: 2900
Racing Flywheel: $1050
Stage 1 Weight Reduction: $1200
Oil Change: $50
Total cost: $28638
Best 1/4 mile time: 11.957


Adding weight to the back of the car REALLY helped out. Upon first try with my nitrous setup, simply adding the full 200 lb to the back of the car took off 0.4 seconds on the 1/4 mile. For anyone that hasn't tried adding weight in the back (or to the front for an FF car), I definitely recommend messing around with the weight ballast.
 
semvhu
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Finally, I break into the 10's! Took me long enough. :crazy:

It's the Camaro I've been tweaking on. I'll restate everything since it's a few pages back with the listed information for my car.

1997 Chevrolet Camaro Z28

With N2O

50 Shot Nitrous: $5000
Supercharger: $13,500
Racing Chip: $1500
Stage 1 Weight Reduction: $1200
Oil Change $50
Base cost of car: $8438
Total cost: $29,688
Best 1/4 mile time: 10.987

Without Nitrous
Supercharger: $13,500
Racing Chip: $1500
Semi-racing exhaust: 2900
Racing Flywheel: $1050
Stage 1 Weight Reduction: $1200
Oil Change: $50
Total cost: $28638
Best 1/4 mile time: 11.957


Adding weight to the back of the car REALLY helped out. Upon first try with my nitrous setup, simply adding the full 200 lb to the back of the car took off 0.4 seconds on the 1/4 mile. For anyone that hasn't tried adding weight in the back (or to the front for an FF car), I definitely recommend messing around with the weight ballast.
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Who says persistence doesnt pay? :) Stellar times semvhu!
 
Well i thought i would try some thing different this time around. and when i spotted the '90 lotus in the used car bin with 381hp and 417 ft/lb, i knew i was gonna spend hours tryin to get it to hook up ( i was correct). and at a price of $28,521, I also knew that i was going to be seriously limited on mods. But none the less, I hadn't heard of anyone tryin the car out, so i though i would give it a go. Here are my results, there not that good but i spent about an hour and a half on the gears alone so i feel a sence of self obligation to post the results.

FR NO NOS
Lotus Carlton '90

Weight - 1655kg - 1456kg after weight reduction
HP & Torque - 381hp / 417ft.lb !!!STOCK!!!
Power to Weight -
Cost - $28,521 !!ouch!!
Milage - 56,430 miles
Modifications
Stage 1 Weight Reduction - $1,100
Sport FlyWheel - $430
Freebies
Racing Suspension
Full Custom LSD
Full Custom Transmission
Driving Aids
TCS - 1
ASM - 0
Suspension Settings
Spring rate: as low as possible ft and rr
Ride height: as high as possible ft and rr
Shocks: as low as possible both ft and rr
Tow and Camber: 0 ft and rr
200kg weight added to the rear of the car

The idea was to put the car up in the air as much as possible and suport in on really soft springs and shocks, so that upon launching the car it would sit on the rear tires as hard as possible. But unfortunatly with out being able to get an upgraded clutch, the car does not launch as hard as i thought it would with that much torque. Instead the car kinda slips slowly into first gear and then TCS is on all the way through first gear.

Total Cost - $30,001, come on PD wtf, really... lol. $1 over budget

Best 1/4 Mile Time 13.483 NO NOS
 
try raising the front and lowering the rear .... and maby add soem weight to the back .... that way most of the cars weight will allready be in the rear for max grip on takeoff that way you dont have to start moving to get the transfer grip



i tried that with my 10 second Charger 440 and got it down to mid 9s
 
oil_injected
ANYONE know the diff between a Subaru WRX STi and a Subaru WRX ProDrive?

i just saw the '01 Subaru Impreza WRX STi PRODRIVE in the used car line up, and i was wondering what the "prodrive" was all about.

i assume that it has some thing to do with the 4WD system? maybe some kind of ASM or something.

anyways if someone knows what the hell it is drop a lline and clue me in, thanks.
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Prodrive are a tuning company who in real life take "standard" cars, such as an Impreza WRX, and modify them before giving them back to Subaru to sell to us.
I don't really know any more detail about them so check out their site:
http://www.prodrive.com/Intromovie.htm

As for the Prodrive models in GT4, i really have no idea if they differ from other models, but if they did, i doubt there would be any large increase in performance and/or handling.

Hope that helps!
 
found a dirt cheap ($$12.055) camaro z28 w/ 44.181.1 km on the clock, which im going to run later.

just have to figure out what mods to get :cool:
 
Mazda RX-7 Type RS (FD) '96 (black) - FR class

Ran a 12.011 with NOS (done twice!!!) (just missed out on an 11 :grumpy: )
Ran a 13.661 without NOS

Cost: $18,325
Mileage: 57575.8 km
Power before: 237bhp
Power after: 307bhp
Power after with NOS: 407bhp
Power to weight: 4.169kg/bhp
Total cost: $29,475

Modifications:
Oil change $50
HKS Large racing i/cooler $3000
HKS NOS $5000
HKS Racing chip $1500
HKS Sports exhaust $1600

Freebies:
Full suspension
Full tranny
Full LSD
NI0293 rims (350Z ones)
 
Am I the only loser keeping this alive, now? :crazy: :sly:

I have an FF contender now.


1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT
Purchase Price: $7496
Stock power: 226 hp
~35k miles (from memory (I'm posting this from a saved Excel file on my laptop))


Without NOS
Stage 1 weight reduction: $1100
Racing Chip: $1250
Sports Intercooler: $1600
Racing Exhaust: $4600
Hard Racing Tires: $10,250
Twin Plate Clutch: $2600
Racing Flywheel: $1000
Oil Change: $50
Total Cost: $29,946
Power: 266 hp
Weight: 1210 lb
Weight/Power: 4.549 lb/hp
1/4 mile time: 13.797 seconds

With NOS
Stage 1 Weight Reduction: $1100
100 shot NOS: $5000
Sports Exhaust: $1550
Hard Racing Tires: $10,250
Twin Plate Clutch: $2600
Racing Flywheel: $1000
Oil Change: $50
Total Cost: $29,046
Power: 237 hp
Weight: 1210 lb
Weight/Power: 5.105 lb/hp
1/4 mile time: 12.911 seconds


I found out that tires helped me more than anything for getting a good time in this particular FF car. For lower power setups, such as the "no NOS" setups, weight ballast didn't help a whole lot. However, using extra weight up front with NOS helped probably by .2 or .3 seconds.

Anyone else doing this thing still? Or am I all alone in my quest now? :nervous:


Edit: I guess I'm not the only one left. :D Good timing on the post, sharky. :sly:
 
blue_sharky39
Mazda RX-7 Type RS (FD) '96 (black) - FR class

Ran a 12.011 with NOS (done twice!!!) (just missed out on an 11 :grumpy: )
Ran a 13.661 without NOS

Cost: $18,325
Mileage: 57575.8 km
Power before: 237bhp
Power after: 307bhp
Power after with NOS: 407bhp
Power to weight: 4.169kg/bhp
Total cost: $29,475

Modifications:
Oil change $50
HKS Large racing i/cooler $3000
HKS NOS $5000
HKS Racing chip $1500
HKS Sports exhaust $1600

Freebies:
Full suspension
Full tranny
Full LSD
NI0293 rims (350Z ones)
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this is really bugg'n me ... no not your time ... wtf is that car in your avartar? that thing looks awesome lol



and no im still do'n it just play'n with other cars and not post'n them see'ns i cant even beat my own times lol .... wounder why he didnt add my no Nos Eclipse FF to the list ... or did i even submit it lol ... gonna have to look again


i think i might have scared a few off with my imprezza .... mainly taneras ... wounder where he is i thought for sure he was gonna kill my time like 10 min after i submited it lol
 
semvhu
I found out that tires helped me more than anything for getting a good time in this particular FF car. For lower power setups, such as the "no NOS" setups, weight ballast didn't help a whole lot. However, using extra weight up front with NOS helped probably by .2 or .3 seconds.
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When I was tuning my civic, I found that adding ballast weight DID help. As well as pushing all the wieght to the front. But after 100kg it started slowing me down again.
 
cobra427
wtf is that car in your avartar? that thing looks awesome lol
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It's a TVR Sagaris...

and with the RX-7 I got the 12.011 then fiddled with the gear ratios again and just got slower... boo hoo. 👎
 
Will someone please beat my F/R with nitrous time.......
And how in the hell can you guys get the FF cars to go faster than a 13.4?????
I have tried a few cars and I am not having much luck with them My 95 eclipse might be game, I should try that one again...
But my 95 honda ITR cant seem to beat 13.45 with the nitrous.......oh well, I'll stick to what i know.... F/R :)
 
well crap i guess i never posted my new times ... and i got sooo many eclipses i dont know what one i was use'n lol
 
GTrackd02
Will someone please beat my F/R with nitrous time.......
And how in the hell can you guys get the FF cars to go faster than a 13.4?????
I have tried a few cars and I am not having much luck with them My 95 eclipse might be game, I should try that one again...
But my 95 honda ITR cant seem to beat 13.45 with the nitrous.......oh well, I'll stick to what i know.... F/R :)
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take a look someone did ....
 
Time for me to break into the 11's (NOS and no NOS), then the 10's - I'll try and beat you, GTrackd02 :)
 
GTrackd02
Ummm, not in the list on page 4
Im still sittin at the top with my 10.990....

If some one did beat it, post it up! I need somthing to compete with!
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go to page one the host has a way better list
 

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