2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 @ the N-Ring

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i think its pretty childish when people just say, man, these guys are just vette haters!
obviously its a fast machine, but you have to look into other factors too, i did not see anyone mention of torque. it is a freakin' 7.0 lol. but either way, i really like it but i would still take a zonda over a Z06 any day <8- )
 
The Corvette's got more than enough torque for its needs. 470 lb-ft at 4800 rpm. Combine that with its light weight, and you get 0-60 in 3.7 seconds.
 
0-60's not all that important, it's accleration beyond that that provides good lap times, along with cornering ability. I don't have specific figures but I have no doubt the Z06 can accelerate to 100Mph pretty fast too, I also know theres plenty of other cars that will get similar figures.

What we don't need to do is to try and say all of a sudden this cars better than the Vette, or the Vette is better than that ect. I thnk everyone can agree that the Z06 is a good perfomer, what cars best depends on who's giving the answer and what they're tastes ad requirements are.
 
While it is certainly a monster, its still a Corvette in my eyes. I will never call a Corvette a supercar.
 
0-60's not all that important, it's accleration beyond that that provides good lap times, along with cornering ability.
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A car with good low end acceleration should be able to pull out of corners pretty quickly, and according to the testers, it does take corners nicely (contrary to popular belief...and the way GT4 portrays them, there are a fair number of American cars with good cornering performance).
 
Well, this sporstcar is whoop'in the crap out of whatever you do call a Supercar... You sir, are perhaps the most ignorant person on the boards.
 
Elegy
A car with good low end acceleration should be able to pull out of corners pretty quickly, and according to the testers, it does take corners nicely (contrary to popular belief...and the way GT4 portrays them, there are a fair number of American cars with good cornering performance).
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On a race track in a powerful car theres not many sub 60Mph corners you'll come across, that is not unless the car has **** handling. I in no way said the Z06 can't handle or even hinted at that. I know it can, I'm just pointing out that a superb 0-60 won't make or break a car.
 
FAOLIU05
Well, this sporstcar is whoop'in the crap out of whatever you do call a Supercar... You sir, are perhaps the most ignorant person on the boards.
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No he's not, everyone's definition of a true supercar is different. He may simply be meaning that the Vette is too affordable to be a supercar or too mass produced. I'm not saying he's right or wrong, but many people use thoes two reasons to prevent a car being classed as a supercar in their eyes regardless of the badge. I sdon't class the Z06 as a sueprcar, I'm very strict at supercar classing though, for example theres only one TVR I'd class as a sueprcar, maybe two at the end of the year and thats the Cerbera Speed 12, and possibly the Typhon, but it might be too cheap to get the supercar image that a Lamborghini has. I don't know if I've worded this the best way, but not being classed as a supercar in my books doesn't make it a bad car, look at my views on TVR's, so why presume it means that when someone else says it.
 
I know it's not the uber-mark, but 0-60 times still normally give a fair idea of how well a car will accelerate at the general lower end.

Oh, and I'm not accusing you of belittling its ability to corner. You just mentioned that cornering ability is important, so I opted to mention that the 'Vette does indeed have that in its resume. :)
 
McLaren F1GTR
While it is certainly a monster, its still a Corvette in my eyes. I will never call a Corvette a supercar.
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+1 👍

Nice time, sure. But, its still just a Vette. And that, if you ask me, just isn't that cool. Put 500hp in a Camaro, and it will be just as fast. But, I doubt everyone would be shouting "Supercar" to that.

Around here, everyone and their dad owns a Vette. Maybe not Z06s, but the "Vette" itself is very common. But, not everyone owns a Murcielago or Zonda. That to me is much more appealing. Yes, the Vette is fast, for sure. Yes, its beat some very exotic machines. But, those exotic machines are very rare. Thats what gives them the edge in my book.

Hilg
 
Hey I like performance as well, but to call it a supercar just....well, I still say its still just an extremely fast sports car.

Supercars aren't about a name. They're about something new, something that can easily stand out above the rest, and something that just has the look.
A supercar isn't really at all about a brand name.
 
the car should be fast. it has a 7 liter 500 horse engine, and yet you're here crowing over its beating a car that has more than 1/3 less displacement? what achievement is that? shouldn't it have annihilated the GT3?

lets see;
*doesnt it have a wider track (more stability in turns, lowers center of gravity etc)
*longer wheelbase (again stability, less propensity to spin and so on)
*a better front rear weight balance front engine/ rear transaxle (against a rear engined porsche? cmon?)
*and a whole lot more engine (6 liters vs 3.6) lots more torque for acceleration out of each corner
*and i think weight is about the same.

(the guesstimatess for wheelbase and track and so on are off the top of my head, not to be taken as gospel.)

surely the car should annihilate the GT3, but its 0.1 second faster. congratulations, you have achieved a great big nothing (in my book)


and it still has a ****ty interior.
 
It's true that a supercar isn't all about a brand name, but all too often what a person buys IS all about a brand name. Of course, there's nothing wrong with that in and of itself, but there are guys out there who'd take a Porsche Boxster up against a Corvette, and afterwards wonder why they got smoked by a "pushrod engine and leaf-spring suspension". That's the kind of people who get my goat; the people who write off American cars on principle because they don't have the prestige associated with names like Porsche or Ferrari.
 
Elegy
Well, to each their own. I personally prefer performance to brand name prestige. 👍
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Oh, I love performance as well, thats not what I meant. Performance is a big part of owning a sports car or "Supercar" for sure. But, if you drive down the street, and see 4 more Vettes, it kind of dulls the experience a bit. Thats all. They are fantastic performance machines. And, If all you want is a track car, they are great.

But, to me, owning a "Supercar" means you have something exotic, fast, and should see very few of them ever. I don't consider a 911 Turbo a "Supercar" for this exact reason. They are tremendously fast, but you see 911s all over the place. But, a Carerra GT on the other hand, now thats a "Supercar" in its purest form.

Hilg
 
the car should be fast. it has a 7 liter 500 horse engine, and yet you're here crowing over its beating a car that has more than 1/3 less displacement? what achievement is that? shouldn't it have annihilated the GT3?
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The GT3 was being driven by a driver at the same level of skill, if not better, than Jan. Driver's skill isn't EVERYTHING, but you also can't dismiss it completely. Not to mention that the Porsche, like it or not, is a monster in the corners.

As I said before, it's probably best to say that the lap times prove that the Corvette is a definate threat to the higher-end European cars out there, not necessarily that it will stomp all over them.
 
But, if you drive down the street, and see 4 more Vettes, it kind of dulls the experience a bit. Thats all. They are fantastic performance machines. And, If all you want is a track car, they are great.
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Well, maybe it's just a quirk of mine, but commonness doesn't really bug me that much. If I may be allowed a bit of conceit...great minds think alike. :sly: :lol: Besides, you can always give your car a tune-up to make it perform the way you personally like best, and that's a sort of uniqueness, I suppose.
 
so if the drivers are at the same level of skill (i consider jan magnussen to be at the top echelon of drivers, he is certainly not second rate) and one car has a 3.6 liter engine (just over half of the other) and its time is within .01 of a second, you think thats some kind of great achievement? seriously? :rolleyes:

shaq can dunk on my 17yo little brother. i just hope his fanboys dont come here and boast about it.

with a 7 liter engine, 500hp and essentially the same curb wieght (130lbs difference in favor of GT3) the vette should annihilate the german. it doesnt. it barely manages to beat it.

that speaks to the quality of the porsche more than the vette. very bad comparison if you ask me.
 
Another thing about the Porsche is that it doesn't really NEED a big engine to go fast. Even though the Corvette is pretty light, the Porsche is lighter. A lot of European cars are like that-look at Lotus for example. If the car is really light, you can do a lot with a smaller engine.
 
There are tons (also literally lol) of cars out there not particularly geared for the road, but are by the manufacturers considered road cars. Well, for me (and to Chevrolet apparently, as they class the Z06 as a supercar) the supercar class isn't so exclusive. A supercar is one which simply excells in track performance over defined road practicality, regardless of brand, price, and looks (IMO, the Z06 looks amazing).

In this case the Corvette Z06 sports a 7.0L, 505hp V8 and excessive acceleration (3.7 seconds to 60mph, 11.9 second 1/4 mile time). How can this be practical for street use?
 
bull****.
the porsche is only 130 lbs lighter. click on the links in the first post.

505 hp vs 380
3132lbs vs 2998

the vette has a better power to weight ratio.
 
i have never been under impression that a supercar was something like a common sportscar. perhaps ive been wrong all this time.

don't confuse supercar performance with supercar.
 
McLaren F1GTR
A supercar isn't really at all about a brand name.
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I wish you could follow your own advice. You're comment about never labeling the Corvette a supercar kind of contradicts the statement I quoted. You seem like the type who would stereotype American cars and not give them a snowflake's chance in hell, just because they're American. You aren't going to give the Corvette just credit because it's produced by Chevrolet (who isn't Ferrari, Porsche, or Lamborghini) and because the Corvette is affordable for the wealthier middle class...

But as I was told by numerous members on the boards, a Corvette outside of the America's is very expensive and rare. So, according to your statement, the Vette would be considered a supercar. I win! :yuck:
 
FAOLIU05
.....A supercar is one which simply excells in track performance over defined road practicality, regardless of brand, price, and looks.....In this case the Corvette Z06 sports a 7.0L, 505hp V8 and excessive acceleration (3.7 seconds to 60mph, 11.9 second 1/4 mile time). How can this be practical for street use?
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Do you consider my Talon a "Supercar" then??? Its very impractical, very fast, and looks great (IMO). But, I don't consider it a "Supercar" even in the slightest.

We all have different definitions, but the Z06, or any Vette for that matter, will never be a "Supercar" in my book. Like McLaren F1GTR said, its more of a fast sports car. And, my Talon is just a fast, small, crappy hatchback.

Hilg
 
Wait, hold that thought. I just re-read the article, and I noticed that Jan makes a lot of comparisons to the Corvette and his race car. For example:

The car is a standard car with street setup - had it been my racer it would hardly have left the tarmac.
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He also makes it sound like he wasn't too comfortable during the run. Maybe Jan didn't do much better because he hadn't had as much time as he could've to get himself acclimated to the Corvette's characteristics?
 
or it could be that when he is usually driving a car very fast on a track, its normally a race car.

which is it? we dont know.

point is, its irrelevant.
 
A supercar doesn't have to be a well-rounded ultra-track car. The HKS Racing 180SX is nothing more but a highly suped-up Nissan 180SX. Yet, I would call it a supercar because it's purpose defeats road practicality. It's a professional drag racer.

And, I know nothing about your Eagle Talon, but I drive a Camaro myself. I'd consider both sportscars, as they weren't meant to run an 8 minute N-ring time or run the 1/4 mile under 8 seconds. They're simple beefed-up teenager econo-cars.
 

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