2008 24 Hours of Le Mans

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  1. RACECAR

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    The Matmut Porsche, Last year's winners.

    Anyone besides me think the morning suddenly looks like a movie?
     
  2. Motominded

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    Im on my 7 coca cola, im at a rate of 1 an hour. I will go the entire 24 :tup:



    I been up since 6:00 AM Atlanta time and began watching the Eurosport feed before Speedtv began its shows at 7:30 AM -race start.

    So Speed began showing the race at 9:00 am - 12:00 on speed and been juggling all the random feeds till i found the one im still on, then now got both speed TV and the feed going. Only 9 hours to go!
     
  3. McLaren

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    I can't believe there's still 9 hours! The sun looks like it'll be up in no time, there.
     
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    That's always been my favorite thing about Le Mans from the first time i tried to watch it all in 2000.

    The French sunrise at our Midnight. Its classic and you gotta be a die hard motorsports fan to understand.
     
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    "Jacques Villeneuve told us in a TV interview that"We had an overheating problem, so we had to get our braking done early and then 'roll' the car into the corners. We solved that, but then it started raining. Our car is difficult - you get the power down coming out of corners and it snaps around, which makes it harder to overtake the slower cars. Tom Kristensen was my team-mate in Formula Three, and even back then he was bl**dy quick in the wet!""

    So the 908 did have some issues and from sound of it the 908 seems to be compromising their wet set-up for dry speed.
     
  6. nissan tuner

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    i doubt the audi can keep this advantage when the rain stops
     
  7. McLaren

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    Tom is just flying away with a 1:04 gap. I wonder if Joest can catch up.
     
  8. Rocket Punch

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    Personally I would like to see the Peugeot win. I think it is better for the sport and it gets kind of boring if Audi won again.
     
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    That's going to depend on how far Audi can get ahead and how long the rain lasts.
    Possibly, but this year is definitely an exciting one. I'm positive, though, that Peugeot will learn from the rain driving. It's obvious from the cameras inside the Peugeot that the car is nearly handicapped in the rain as the driver tries to keep it under control coming out of the corners.
     
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    Audi is an old fox when it comes to Le Mans, not to mention they probably have a warehouse of data on this circuit by now.
     
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    The 908 is catching up, but the rain is coming down again. Could undo all of the 908's hard work.
     
  12. Motominded

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    we'll see, its down to 15.11, this is soo serious.
     
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    oh no, the 908's windscreen wiper looks like its doing only 70% of the cleaning starting on the right side.

    a compromise for any RHD car
     
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    Starting to go back up, and will probably raise well into the 30's or 40's depending on how fast the Peugeot spoiler change will take, and how far the Audi can get away.
     
  15. Motominded

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    at 256 laps, it sits at 18.109
     
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    Before I begin, I would like to wish the United States Army a Happpy Birthday. Alright, people. I'm going to share with you my virtual notebook with you all on this race.



    John's Notebook: Le Mans (so far)

    --- Closed-Top Prototypes ---
    I just couldn't help but fall in love with the Epsilon Euskadi-Judd! That car is so freaking sweet! * Equally amazing was the Aston Martin-powered Lola by Prodrive. This is the first Aston Martin prototype since the Aston Martin AMR-1 back in 1989 or 1990. Prodrive is a quality name. You don't mess with Prodrive because they can put out some sick race cars. You have to give Prodrive credit for having two incidents early in the race and still have a chance to come back. * The Dome closed-top is nice, but don't like it as much as the Epsilon or the Aston Martin-powered Lola.


    --- 55 Cars? ----
    I remember when Le mans used to have about 40 to 45 cars to Le Mans. Now there's 50+! More cars means more calamity. And it isn't as if Le Mans has had problems fielding cars much like how the Indy 500 has been the past few years.


    --- The Chinese Are Coming! ---
    Whoever would have thought that China would field a driver? Cong Fu Chenz is the young bloke's name. Made in China and trying to make a name for himself and his country on this world stage. I'm sure he'll get plenty of love coming back home from Le Mans. I don't know his name, but I'm even hearing that a Chinese sportscar racing team could be fielded. There will be some backing by MG for all of this.


    --- Two Hours of Attrition ---
    The first few hours of Le Mans have been packed with attrition. I've seen a lot of wrecked cars and some spins. No manufactured NASCAR drama. Just 55 cars vs. the tag team of Le Mans and the weather. Have at it.



    --- Halfway Report ---
    When Speed Channel finally decided there Le Mans is more important to show on TV than NASCAR Performance, some Ricky Carmichael half-hour show, stock car racing, and On the Edge (even though I am a fan); Le Mans came back on the air.

    * #7 Peugeot leads at halfway.
    * Porsche RS Spyder 1-2 in P2. Defending champions, RML, are out.
    * Aston Martin taking care of the 'Vettes. Remember that Aston Martin is no longer owned by Ford, so this isn't a Chevy vs. Ford battle.
    * Risi Competizione leads at halfway. Great Texas pride.


    --- Halfway Report: Random Notes ---
    * Cong Fu Chen - first Chinese driver
    * First non-Panoz race since 1996


    Retirements at Halfway:
    P1: #6, #12, #19
    P2: RML, Trading Performance
    GT1: #53
    GT2: #76, #78, #83, #85, #94



    --- Observations Since Halfway... ---
    * #9 Peugeot beached.
    * Light sprinkles on the race track at about 3:16 AM (03:16) time in France.
    * Johnny O' Connell moderately whacked a parked Speedy Lola. Lola needed repairs.
    * At 10:32:45 left, Top four are Ferrari. An amazing presence
    * 223 laps completed at the 3:33 AM mark in France.
    * #007 Gulf Aston Martin in pits, O. Gavin has a chance to climb back into 3rd in GT1.
    * Team Modena Aston Martin (one of my FACT OR FICTIONs) in the pits with gear issues.
    * Dome S102 off track, heads to pits during 15th Hour. Taken to pits.
    * Rain gets heavier in the 4:00 AM hour.
    * The #2 Audi takes the lead at 4:24 AM French time. Tom Kristensen laid down about a 4:01 lap around Circuit de la Sarthe.
    * #16 Pescarolo in the pits and taken to garage. Was the highest-ranked petrol/gasoline car. 5:21 AM French Time.
    * #40 Lola was 4th in LMP2, but headed into the garage at about the 5:29 AM Sunday French Time.
    * #45 LMP2 entry has a big off and loses left-front bodywork.
    * Multiple cars spin on the wet roads. 5:55 AM Sunday French time.
    * #4 Pescarolo spins.





    [B}Style![/B]
    Let me talk about some of the "best dressed" and "worst dressed" cars.


    Stylish:
    * I love the blue JMB Ferrari and its lovely paintscheme.

    * The Epsilon Euskadi and that Aston Martin-Lola are both amazing to me. I just get curious about the narrow cockpit of recent GTP-type cars. I would probably design one of those to be like the McLaren F1, where you just sit in the center. Only thing I'd fear is that getting into the car may be much harder. Thanks to the Speed Channel crew, I learned that the Epsilons were Spanish-made. I only know of Hispana-Suiza and SEAT as far as Spanish makes go. The headlights kind of remind me of the Lamborghini Murciélago while the rest of the car looks just sweet. As for the Aston Martin-Lola, it's just beautiful. My only gripe would the headlight look. I would probably go with a set of headlights that flows beautifully with the car. I know it's Lola design, but that would be my ONLY gripe. Make the car blue or red with gold accents... and I'll take two! Maybe three!

    * There were only two cars with purple that I best remember in recent times: the Team Velqux(?) Audi R8s and those TVR GT2 race cars from a few years back. Those Porsche RS Spyders with the silver and purple are just stunning.

    * Just about all Courage prototypes are lovely to me. I've been a fan of Courage cars since about maybe 2004 or so with the beautiful Courages raced by teams like Pescarolo and the old Miracle Motorsports team.

    * I like the Peugeot 908 HDi FAP race cars in general. I just wish the cars would be re-engineered for better access inside as well as not requiring so much to maintain. The pit stops seemed longish, especially last year. If Peugeot doesn't end up winning this race, they'll need to engineer it better to make pit stops a bit less longer as well as being more efficient.

    * Because blue is beautiful... the Jean Richard-sponsored all-American Creation team is beautifully blue.

    * I don't like the blue on the Gulf Aston Martin, but I'm giving a special shout out to the Gulf livery cars in over 40 years at Le Mans. If Ford ever returns to Le Mans with a full factory machine, do you think Ford (of America) would go with the sky blue and orange in whatever prototype or GT car they unveil for Le Mans if they were to make an all-out return to Le Mans. I'd recommend the classic blue and orange Gulf colors in almost the same colors as the Ford GT40s for nostalgia's sake. Either that or the Porsche 917's Gulf colors.



    Not (or Not So) Stylish...
    * I'm sorry. Those multi-colored Oreca cars[/U] aren't very lovely. Many think the best Oreca paintscheme of all time were those Vipers colored in the French flag colors on those Vipers in the late 1990s.



    In-Between:
    * The Dome S102 looks very nice. Glad they didn't go with that checkered paint scheme like in the early 2000s or even that soccer ball paint scheme during the most recent World Cup (or was that car a Dome that year?). Any of you note those green lights? I think the green lights shone once during a practice or qualifying session. It's the first car I've seen with green lights since the old silver and black Ford Falcon Craig Lowndes raced with in the Australian V8 Supercar Series back in the early 2000s.

    * Blue and gold is my favorite color combination, but the Spykers have almost too much of blue and gold. I'd probably paint most of the car blue and leave the gold in accents. Someone said that my love of blue and gold is a bit like the U.S. Navy's Blue Angels. That's a little something close to blue and gold for me.

    * The Flying Lizard Porsche had about the lovliest paint scheme last year with that multi-colored race car. I kind of wanted to see that multicolored design for this car this year. Think any other car would have a paint style similar to that Flying Lizard Porsche?




    And Then Some...
    * Mike West (acting crew chief of the #64 Corvette) put on an impressive rendition of the Star-Spangled Banner. I personally like Jimi Hendrix's version better (not to say it wasn't that good).

    * It has to be fun to drive around Le Mans in a street Aston Martin DB9.

    * One viewer E-Mail noted that "Poo-joe" is not the way to pronounce "Peugeot." I've always pronounced it like that, so I've thought it was right. David Hobbs said it more like "Poe-joe." What's the right way?

    * One other E-Mail asked if Calvin Fish is really as short as he looks. The Speed TV crew were great fun and having great fun. Nice to know someone makes the race fun even if not a lot of people like Le Mans as much as they like a NASCAR race.

    * The ALMS link with the ACO seems to work pretty well in shaping the Le Mans endurance. Most notable is the side-lights noting the top competitors in each class.

    -end "John's Notebook - Le Mans"





    I have always loved sportscar racing. This is the race out of the entire year I most want to see. You wait an entire year for a big race like this. And when it comes, you're jacked. A lot will change as I conclude this report. I'll surely enjoy this race. I may take a chance in the overnight and drink another small bottle of Pepsi to stay awake.

    Loving the race!
     
  17. Motominded

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    AFTER 16 HOURS!

    Pos N° Team Cls Driver in Pit Laps Gap LastLap BestLap Now Stop

    1 2 Audi Sport North America LMP1 McNISH A. 257 3:58.871 3:24.152 Run 21

    2 7 Team Peugeot Total LMP1 GENE M. 257 16.265 3:57.027 3:21.438 Run 24

    3 9 Peugeot Sport Total LMP1 MONTAGNY F. 255 2 Laps 3:58.133 3:20.600 Run 26

    4 3 Audi Sport Team Joest LMP1 ROCKENFELLER M. 255 1:07.961 4:01.992 3:23.939 Run 22

    5 1 Audi Sport North America LMP1 BIELA F. 254 3 Laps 4:00.742 3:25.166 Run 22

    6 8 Team Peugeot Total LMP1 WURZ A. 248 9 Laps 3:58.816 3:19.394 Run 24

    7 17 Pescarolo Sport LMP1 TRELUYER B. 246 11 Laps 4:13.488 3:30.610 Run 23

    8 34 Van Merksteijn Motorsport LMP2 VERSTAPPEN J. 240 17 Laps 4:11.203 3:34.188 Run 20

    9 5 Team Oreca Matmut LMP1 DUVAL L. 239 18 Laps 4:11.144 3:30.543 Run 23

    10 18 Rollcentre Racing LMP1 BARBOSA J 239 1:24.192 4:17.863 3:35.601 Run 22

    11 10 Charouz Racing System LMP1 ENGE T. 236 21 Laps 4:11.895 3:28.131 Pit 24

    12 009 Aston Martin Racing LMGT1 TURNER D. 232 25 Laps 4:28.898 3:49.387 Run 19

    13 35 Saulnier Racing LMP2 LAHAYE M. 232 29.239 4:27.704 3:44.293 Run 21

    14 63 Corvette Racing LMGT1 FELLOWS R. 231 26 Laps 4:24.562 3:50.650 Run 18

    15 31 Team Essex LMP2 NIELSEN J. 231 3:35.559 4:50.547 3:36.562 Pit 24

    16 64 Corvette Racing LMGT1 PAPIS M. 229 28 Laps 5:29.820 3:49.707 Run 18

    17 72 Luc Alphand Aventures LMGT1 ALPHAND L. 227 30 Laps 4:36.032 3:54.006 Run 19

    18 40 Quifel ASM Team LMP2 PLA O. 226 31 Laps 4:41.981 3:41.064 Run 19

    19 007 Aston Martin Racing LMGT1 FRENZEN H-H. 226 16.597 4:23.601 3:49.820 Run 18

    20 73 Luc Alphand Aventures LMGT1 GOUESLARD P. 221 36 Laps 4:30.922 3:57.217 Run 20

    21 82 Risi Competizione LMGT2 SALO M. 220 37 Laps 4:42.629 4:02.086 Run 19

    22 96 Virgo Motorsport LMGT2 MULLEN T. 218 39 Laps 4:40.058 4:01.559 Run 18

    23 4 Saulnier Racing LMP1 FAGGIONATO M. 217 40 Laps 5:00.246 3:44.819 Run 19

    24 97 BMS Scuderia Italia LMGT2 MALUCELLI M. 217 2:56.840 8:05.519 4:02.776 Run 20

    25 90 Farnbacher Racing LMGT2 EHRET P. 214 43 Laps 4:58.594 4:03.381 Run 18

    26 99 JMB Racing LMGT2 FERTE A. 214 2:20.894 4:44.105 4:04.738 Pit 18

    27 45 Embassy Racing LMP2 FOSTER J. 213 44 Laps 10:09.996 3:42.676 Run 22

    28 14 Creation AIM LMP1 HALL S. 213 2:43.930 4:35.254 3:39.052 Run 23

    29 11 Dome Racing Team LMP1 TACHIKAWA Y. 211 46 Laps 4:10.179 3:29.504 Run 22

    30 50 Larbre Competition LMGT1 BORNHAUSER P. 207 50 Laps 4:45.758 3:51.727 Run 22

    31 26 Bruichladdich Radical LMP2 DEVLIN B. 206 51 Laps 4:30.281 3:46.031 Run 23

    32 32 Barazi Epsilon LMP2 BARAZI J. 204 53 Laps 4:26.707 3:39.082 Run 21

    33 77 Team Felbermayr-Proton LMGT2 DAVISON A. 203 54 Laps 5:55.269 4:00.709 Run 16

    34 23 Autocon LMP1 LEWIS M. 198 59 Laps 8:26.371 3:43.217 Run 20

    35 59 Team Modena LMGT1 FITTIPALDI C. 196 61 Laps 8:07.371 3:53.086 Run 23

    36 80 Flying Lizard Motorsports LMGT2 BERGMEISTER J. 183 74 Laps 4:32.980 3:59.887 Run 17

    37 55 IPB Spartak Racing LMGT1 HEZEMANS M. 164 93 Laps 4:49.933 3:55.713 Run 17

    38 22 Tokai University YGK LMP1 KAGEYAMA M. 162 95 Laps 4:51.316 3:52.274 Pit 22

    39 24 Terramos LMP1 TAKAHASHI K. 157 100 Laps 5:10.625 3:41.589 Run 19

    40 20 Epsilon Euskadi LMP1 VALLES A. 154 103 Laps 4:13.180 3:35.401 Run 14

    41 21 Epsilon Euskadi LMP1 JOHANSON S. 132 125 Laps 4:22.996 3:37.638 Run 14

    D.N.F. 41 Trading Performance LMP2 OJJEH K. OUT

    D.N.F. 76 Imsa Performance Matmut LMGT2 NARAC R. OUT

    D.N.F. 83 Risi Competizione LMGT2 KROHN T. OUT

    D.N.F. 85 Snoras Spyker Squadron LMGT2 DUMBRECK P. OUT

    D.N.F. 94 Speedy Racing Team LMGT2 CHIESA A. OUT

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    Damn, Audi's back up to a 1:43 gap.

    And Rockenfeller drops a position.
     
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    I have. It's now 11:53pm mountain time. Been watching constantly since 5:30am local time (when coverage on Speed started). Watched Danish TV online stream when Speed was off.
     
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    The #7 Peugeot trails by about 23 seconds now. Any chance Peugeot overtakes the leading Audi? I think around this time last year, one or two Audis were left. I think one was left... and I think we all know what position that Audi finished last year...
     
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    It could, but every time I see the Peugeot getting close, it suddenly pits or something because then it's over a minute away.
     
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    lol, you said it. 908 in the pits now.
     
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    See?! It was 20 seconds behind, and now it's 1 lap. The mileage on the R10 is just working to that car's advantage so much now.
     
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    Audi is now 6 seconds a lap faster, what a performance by that car.
     
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    As I've stated before, it seems more like Audi will win again as part of a storybook ending for the Audi R10 TDI. It's looking that way right now. However, there are still some... six or seven hours left. Le Mans is a never-ending drama that has no storyline or script. That's why I love it.

    Risi is still providing Texas hope at Le Mans in GT2.
     
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    Look, they're actually showing the GT2 class F430GTs! :p
     
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    Risi could be the first GT2 in the top 20.

    The DOME soldiers on. :)
     
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    The 908 might have a better chance to catch the R10 if the track drys up.

    Either they bet on the weather getting better or SC or the R10 having some problem.
     
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    As long as it doesn't pit.

    I'm a bit worried now, though. Usually, after a few minutes, the 908 has been able to break that 1 Lap Gap. However, according to the official site, the R10 has been able to keep itself on the next lap over the 908. I fear if the 908 pits again, the R10 might be able to get another lap on it.

    I am glad to see that the Peugeot & the Team Oreca are still going as well.
     
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    We will have to see if Capello can match AMN's pace. Per Peugeot's crew chief, looks like the weather will be working against them all the way to the flag.

    I bet we will see another SC between now and the flag. That will give them a big break.