2008 Australian Grand Prix

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peterjford
That was the one I was talking about. Did he drop the tire onto the grass because the tires were still cold from the SC? Either way, that was a stupid mistake.
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So... He speared straight on and dumped it into the gravel then span it later in the race on the same corner, and that classes as one mistake?


Quote of the day goes to David Coulthard:

DC
I did the same to Wurz last year and held my hands up to it. We'll see if he [Massa] does, and if he doesn't I'll kick three shades of 🤬 out of the little 🤬
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DC is great. He used to be boring, but he's got a lot better as he's got older.
 
Entertaining race, Ferrari were awful and didn't deserve anything. Surprised that so many retired though.

Lewis was brilliant, a class above everyone else.
 
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Quote of the day goes to David Coulthard:
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I'd call it a good contender for quote of the year already haha!! .. and funnily enough 2007's quote of the year for me was in race 1 also

Kimi was approached by Martin on the grid walk and asked where he had just been and Kimi replied with "oh I was away having a s*it" :lol:

I love the funny comments of F1 :sly:👍
 
Mr P
I'd call it a good contender for quote of the year already haha!! .. and funnily enough 2007's quote of the year for me was in race 1 also

Kimi was approached by Martin on the grid walk and asked where he had just been and Kimi replied with "oh I was away having a s*it" :lol:

I love the funny comments of F1 :sly:👍
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Brundle's reply was better...

"Ah, so you'll have a nice, light car then."
 
peterjford
Nakajima... did he do a good bit of driving or just have a great bit of luck? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
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Both. On one hand, he was still on track at the end of a race of high attrition; on the other, he very nearly wasn't when he hit Kubica.

An entertaining race, if not a classic one - a battle for the lead would've been nice. Brilliant to see Rosberg on the podium. Bourdais showed that a cool head travels well across the Atlantic - unlucky not to score more points than he did. A definate 👍 to no driver aids.
 
darkfinal
Despite being an Alonso fan, I'm not sad to see him in a midfield car. I loved to see him dodge and overtake faster cars back in 2003 and 2004 (and even '05 and '06 when he had the chance), so it'll be fun to see him battling where the show is. Rather than hoping him to get the pole and drive alone.
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See why I said this? That was the best driving from Alonso I've seen in years, edging into every damn turn and going wide like... 20 times? Without losing a bit of control. :D
 
Sureshot
Entertaining race, Ferrari were awful and didn't deserve anything. Surprised that so many retired though.

Lewis was brilliant, a class above everyone else.
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if you say kimi didnt deserve anything so what should I say about alonso?
what did he? playing a ghost? at least kimi showed some actions. however most of them were stupid :)

btw I like the engine sound in kimi's car :)
 
Nitrof1
if you say kimi didnt deserve anything so what should I say about alonso?
what did he? playing a ghost? at least kimi showed some actions. however most of them were stupid :)
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I recall Alonso passing Kimi...
 
Interesting race? yes.

A bit too chaotic for my tastes but I still see the loss of TC's a good thing for sure. No doubt the drivers will continue to adapt thoughout the course of the season.

Impressed by a number of drivers including all the finishers as it obiously wasn't an easy job crossing the finishing line. The BMW's don't seem too far behind the Mclarens in terms of pace certainly I think they have the potential to hit the top four more often this season. It seems all the cars in general are fast STR's holding up mclarens and Honda's holding up Ferraris certainly seems like closer racing in general.

Ferrari didn't have a good time, the car suffered engine problems and both drivers made mistakes. Massa at the start lost his head a little perhaps the second inccident could be attributed to DC. Kimi seemed uncharacteristically headless. First with a 'hopefull' overtake which he was only a metre or so from the barrier and a tow truck, then secondly clipping the grass and spinning again perhaps not as suicidal as the first mistake but not quite what I have come to expect from him, didn't keep his cool well this race and it cost him dearly he should be thankful to take points at all.

Kovalinen had a good race, the safety car didn't help him but didn't seem too far behind his teamate for pace, hopefully a few races down the line he will be right up there with Hamilton the whole race he certainly seems to have the ability.

Many teams have impressed me recently and so many drivers. Ferrari will no doubt be challenging for first next race and hopefully so will BMW. I can't wait! :D
 
Just watched... for the second time.,...... last night wasn't enough.

So how do ya like that,

the Good:

Lewis Hamilton.....Job Done/ Bordais...so close but so far/ Alonzo drove like a 2 time world champion in that squirmy crap car.

The Bad:

Ferrari: 0/6 finishers/ Rubens pit stop ~ and the red light/ Timo Glock....For Shame on track marshals to have that section/

First time in 16 years Ferrari failed to score points in opener.
 
Motominded
Just watched... for the second time.,...... last night wasn't enough.

So how do ya like that,

the Good:

Lewis Hamilton.....Job Done/ Bordais...so close but so far/ Alonzo drove like a 2 time world champion in that squirmy crap car.

The Bad:

Ferrari: 0/6 finishers/ Rubens pit stop ~ and the red light/ Timo Glock....For Shame on track marshals to have that section/

First time in 16 years Ferrari failed to score points in opener.
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Barrichello disqualified, Raikkonen gains a point

Honda’s Rubens Barrichello has been disqualified from sixth place in the Australian Grand Prix. Barrichello was penalised by stewards for exiting the pits under a red light. It means Ferrari’s Kimi Raikkonen moves up to eighth place and hence scores a point.

The penalty brought a sad end to what had been an eventful afternoon for Barrichello. After putting in a performance far stronger than anyone had predicted in the RA108, the Brazilian fell victim to unlucky timing when he was forced to pit for fuel under the safety car.

Not only did that infringement earn him a ten-second stop-go penalty, Barrichello also managed to drag over a mechanic as he left his box before the refuelling man had removed the hose from the car. He then rejoined the race, despite the red light at the end of the pit lane, a move which ultimately saw him excluded from the result

"Shortly after we called Rubens in for the second of two planned pit stops, Timo Glock had a crash and the safety car was deployed,” explained team principal Ross Brawn. “We had no alternative but to continue to bring him in because he was out of fuel, although we realised that the pit lane was going to be closed due to the safety car and that this would result in a ten-second stop-go penalty.

“During the pit stop the lollipop was lifted just a fraction early while the fuel hose was just coming off the car. After the pit stop Rubens exited the pit lane when the lights were still red and obviously this is in breach of the regulations. A tough set of circumstances after an otherwise very committed drive by Rubens."

Barrichello’s disqualification means Williams’ Kazuki Nakajima moves up to sixth place, while Toro Rosso’s Sebastien Bourdais is promoted to seventh, despite not finishing the race.
 
Since my misguided posting in F1CE Forum, I can say that I've seen some of the best racing come out of regulation changes. Not always for the better, I'm afraid, but leveling the field seems to bring out the creative boffins and their gadgets to solve problems. Turbo's had to be put down since 1700 Hp for two laps at Monaco is seriuosly dangerous. The best looking and probably fastest cars were abandoned after Mansell's active car. Still probably the highest tech solutions after Ground effect went away. Newey's early cars for McLaren in 1998-1999 were fine examples of exploiting the new regulations to maximum effect. Natural seletion did the most for engine development,since the V-10 made packaging the optimum power the way foreward.Toyota was a year down the path using a V12 when FIA closed the door in 2000. I will miss the V-12 and V-10 symphonies at the week end. Berylium is nasty, poisonous stuff but with aluminum makes light powerful Heads and blocks.Ferrari complained and it was banned. Too expensive they claimed, but they couldn't get it right. So away it went.

We now have no TC and we're back to about 2000 technology. Your grocery getter has more sophstication than most of these F1 cars. I been around long enough to have seen Clark and Stewart race. I watched the Lotus Ground effect and the P34 tyrell. Schumacher and Hakkinen were very worthy rivals and I hated to see Mika retire when he did. But He saw the decline coming at McLaren and Ferrari getting it together.

Hamilton still makes me nervous. He's too busy to join the GPDA and that speaks volumes about his smug demeanor. He's to cool for school it seems in my opinion. I'd like to be wrong but we'll see. No question he's talented, but several drivers plunked into that seat would do very well also. We will also see if VMM favors him over Heikki as in this race.

Round 1

The winner is truly fans of exiciting racing. Ferrari had some bad luck and Massa pitch his race in between T1 and T2 as before. Brazilians are well known skillful drivers but they drive with too much emotion. Senna said it best when he crashed at Monaco leading. He learned to temper his style and not disappear in a Red mist.

BMW and Williams looked good. Alonso took that slithering snake of a car drove well above his pay grade (even at $ 46 Million). Heikki's wandering digit cost him a spot but he drove a solid race.

Sadly $50 million more isn't enough to help Force India any time soon. That was Jaguar Budget money and without a good technical rudder they proved you can't spend 6 months picking the best green to show up on Tele. Gascogne is very good and they will be faster, but remember the budget buys time and great driver's buy time as well. India is trying to bring themselves into a modern nation status and I salute their ambition. They may also end up with Jaguar Cars however I feel that is a tragedy of epic scale should it happen. They have just announced the $2500 car. Not truly a compatible fit. Sir Anthony you must step up to the Plate! But i digress!

Toyota and Honda are cars built by Commitee and that also really doesn't work in f1.

Good show, Job well done! Good on you!

Malaysia next, Hot and maybe wet!

More Fun

Cheers until we can hear those 19 grand grinders again
 
Just got home. Suffice to say I’m disappointed.

More to come when I watch real coverage of the race. :indiff:
 
Who wouldn’t be? I mean seriously…



You wouldn’t hit that?
 
I didn't see all of the action. I think races at venues like these are times I'm most comfortable to see race coverage since I don't think I can do Sunday morning at 6:00 AM CDT. My congratulations to Lewis Hamilton on a job well done. The Speed boys who called this race gave Nakajima plenty of props for his finish.

I think Albert Park is a nice race track in a great setting. Melbourne is one of the coolest cities in Australia. Albert Park has a varied assortment of sweeping corners and some tricky corners. The park setting makes it so that you don't have to fear any walls at the very edges of the road. I've raced this track in a few games including "Formula 1 World Championship" on the Nintendo 64, and as downloads for Sports Car GT and rFactor. It's a wicked challenge. What is most tricky about this track is how easy it is to overshoot the corners. A track like this really favors the most concentrated of drivers. As far as Australian venues go, I consider Bathurst the very finest of them all. Tracks like Eastern Park or Sandown would also make great Australian F1 venues. That leads me to my debate to all of you...



John's Debate! - Australian F1 Venues and Honda vs. Toyota

(1) Bathurst would be a dream track to see F1 challenge in Australia. Trouble is (and the reason why I think this will NEVER happen), Bathurst is very confined and too dangerous (at least to me) to race at. If you were in charge of a committee to bring Formula One racing to any other venue besides Albert Park, where else would be great venues to showcase Formula One in Australia? Or is Albert Park the best true Australian offering for the F1 circus?

(2) Who do you think will be the better of the Japanese makes in Formula One this season: Honda or Toyota? Will either or both even place in the Top 3 for the Manufacturer's crown? Which has more to lose? Do you think Toyota will sack its F1 program should they continue to not post a win or even come close?



Have at it!
 

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