They are just deciding on what happened at the German GP not the whole season.
That may be the case but, to ensure Ferrari, or indeed any other team, doesn't blatantly flout the rules again, they will use the prolonged period to their own advantage.
What do forth coming results have to do with the incident in Germany?
See above.
And what a coincidence that Jean Todt (who is now the President of the FIA) was the one guilty of blatant team orders in 2002 with Ferrari, which shortly after caused the FIA to put the team order ruling into affect
Team orders were introduced after the race in Austria (2002) as a typical knee jerk reaction to what happened, with no realization and acceptance that it is just one of the necessary evils (if you want to call it that) when having a two car team in what is labeled a team sport/business. Not to mention it is IMPOSSIBLE aspect of the sport/business to police...so why have such a lame rule that can't even be enforced to begin with?
I doubt Todt is going to be seen as a Ferrari sympathiser just because he was previously employed by them. The fact that he was previously employed by Ferrari suggests he will have little or nothing to do with the hearing in any case due to the potential conflict of interests.
To clarify also; there has always been a ruling on team orders or, to be more specific, a rule to discourage race fixing. The rule was only amended in 2002 after the incident with the two Ferrari cars.
Sometimes the perspective on these matters can get a little jaded but, Formula 1 can exist on many levels with or without car manufacturers and tobacco revenues propping up the multi-million pound 'habits' of the teams however, the underlying fact remains, it isn't a race if the results are contrived.
You should remember that, irrespective of what Ferrari or other teams may wish, the fans pay a price to see an event that is sold to them on the basis that it is a fair sport. The issue is not whether or not the rule is right, it is about whether or not the rule was breached. The rule exists because that is what the fans want and the rules are agreed, in advance of the race, to comply with the interests of the teams, the drivers and the fans.
True. I just think people are making too much of a fuss over what took place...but then again it's no surprise to me considering the amount of drama queens and soap opera lovers who follow Formula 1, and also how the media make a business out of blowing every little thing they can out of proportion
Some people take some things seriously and are prepared to discuss these issues accordingly and where possible offer a little insight. Who is being a drama queen? The media has it's own role to play but ultimately, no matter how cringe-worthy or uncomfortable it may make us feel, it has a place and upholds the event in the spirit in which it is intended. If it draws attention for it's stories then that can only be a good thing.
True, well educated fans of the sport/business realize team orders are a necessary evil in a TEAM sport like this, where the team must maximize their results and probability for either Championship in each and every race. You can't expect a team like Ferrari (given their current points situation) to let their clear day in/day out faster driver (Alonso) this season to lose 5 points when they have an opportunity like they did at Hockenheim. Yea maybe Ferrari could have let both drivers scrap it out on the track, but as Alonso said, look where that has gotten Redbull in the past
Not to mention how costly a DNF for Ferrari (particularly Alonso) would be at this stage in the Championship, had the two tangled.
None of this is relevant. The biggest problem I have with this statement is that in condones and endorses the Ferrari dream of being all powerful and winning everything. That would initially mean only one driver would be a valid competitor. Then say Ferrari get their way and have additional cars running, for what purpose? to prevent other cars winning? so, other teams go out of business and it's left to a all-Ferrari grid in which we already know who is going to win the race....amazing plan there, I can't wait to see that 'championship'
When you get down to it, the goal of a Formula 1 team is to take take home the WDC and WCC at nearly whatever cost. To think a team like Ferrari is going to allow their lead driver THIS season (which he has earned in the first half of the season) lose 5 points which could potentially cost Alonso/Ferrari a WDC is absolute blasphemy considering what is at stake for the team. Knowing Ferrari, I doubt they mind a bit of tarnish on their record if it means winning the WDC by 1 point at the end of this year.
How can you or any body else be so sure that Alonso or Ferrari are going to win the championship, especially at the half way point? You make it sound as if it's done and dusted already. What if Alonso fails to finish several times now and Massa leads the way but falls short of the championship by a matter of points? there are a billion variables but only time can play them out.
Ii think we share the same opinion regarding the stupidity of the rule. If fans and the organizers of the sport find team orders to be such a crime, then IMO they need to do something else that is actually going to 100% prevent such "team orders" ....not some typical FIA knee-jerk reaction which does absolutely nothing to minimize team orders and only forces TEAMS to "cheat' (
) under the radar...which is even worse IMO. To have some smoke and mirrors regulation in place in a pathetic attempt (if you can even call it that) to prevent team orders is an utter joke, especially when it's likely that almost every fan who follows/regularly watches F1 knows that team orders still exist regardless of the rules in place.
This is more like it,....what do you suggest? I think for the interest of the sport, the rule needs to exist but, in such a way that it can not be readily exploited on a whim.
One thing I would be interested in seeing explored is a ban on pit-car communications. It doesn't serve much of a purpose and any communications that are essential can be dealt with on a pitboard.
You want your position, you fight for it. Don't go crying to mama your brother doesn't want to let you win. Be a real driver and pass him FFS.
Besides, look at Vettel vs Webber or Hamilton vs Button. Some very good fights.
This is exactly what I want to see. Ultimately, I hope (every year) that the championship(s) are won by the most deserved driver/team. It stinks when it's contrived and spoils the entertainment of watching it too.
One of the biggest issues of the past few years has been overtaking,...the spectacle of bravery and daring that only the world's best can perform...why should we celebrate Alonso?
