2012 Australian Grand Prix

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MazdaPrice
We're armchair pundits. Our opinions don't matter in the grand scale of things. But we still call them as we see them.



This is the problem. He's a sore loser.
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I don't remember him blaming the car, if you have common sense you would realise that he would obviously be angry with himself for screwing up the start as that destroyed his chance of winning.
 
MazdaPrice
But... but... Lewis is McLaren's golden child?!

Bah. Maybe he hasn't learnt as much as he says he has. Still an unsatisfactory loser.
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Ah but Lewis is Dennis's man whereas Jenson is Whitmarsh's man.

juniordee
Guess I worried for nothing, here on TSN (canada) our feed has DC and what seems to be BBC.
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You got to watch the the race live on the BBC?
 
Duffers917K
Hamilton will be getting this car, or one the same as it rather. He won't be getting a long-tail GTR.

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That I know, I just threw up a picture of a BMW-McLaren F1 to prove a point quickly. That orange one is what he will suposedly get if he wins 3 chamionships. Yet not the start he wanted hence this face:

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He obviously doesn't want to hear any of what we're saying
 
Tired Tyres
You got to watch the the race live on the BBC?
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BBC are still selling their live commentary for TV to other countries, so they still record it all live and then splice it for highlights in the UK.
Probably easier for Ben+David that way anyway (as they'd be recording them live either way).
 
Karma is such a beautifull thing... Maldonado hehehehehe... Next time dont be so bloody rude... IMO he tapped Grojean on purpose.

OK8
Watched it from Sky and didn't really notice any difference to last year's BBC coverage.
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Same here... as long as Martin Brundle is in Im happy.
 
tribolik
Karma is such a beautifull thing... Maldonado hehehehehe... Next time dont be so bloody rude... IMO he tapped Grojean on purpose.
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I highly doubt he did it on purpose. What would be the point? The risk of a rear puncture is just too great.
 
tribolik
Same here... as long as Martin Brundle is in Im happy.
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The key to Sky's coverage was getting Brundle.👍

Still can't believe how shocking Ferrari were this weekend, Alonso deserves better.
 
F1 fan
I highly doubt he did it on purpose.
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Indeed.

Besides which, when you see Maldonado going for passes most of the time, you would sort of expect that kind of result, no? That's certainly what I thought when he went for him then.
 
F1 fan
I highly doubt he did it on purpose. What would be the point? The risk of a rear puncture is just too great.
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I agree. The on-board shot from Grosjean's car showed it was just light contact; the damage itself really came from Grosjean steering to get back on the racing line because he was about to run out of road. Grosjean was totally in Maldonado's blind-spot when it happened.
 
That was an exciting race! Unfortunately, all the drivers I rooted to be the guns in this race like Grosjean, Schumacher and Rosberg all faded away with problems and bad lucks. I think this is by far one of the best opening races since 2005! Congratulations to Button for his gutsy drive, Vettel and Hamilton. Webber, the home hero not to forget scored his best finish ever in the Australian GP being in 4th. A small memoriable step.

I'll be at Sepang next week. It's going to be hectic! Rain is very, very expected :D
 
prisonermonkeys
I agree. The on-board shot from Grosjean's car showed it was just light contact; the damage itself really came from Grosjean steering to get back on the racing line because he was about to run out of road. Grosjean was totally in Maldonado's blind-spot when it happened.
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Watch it from another angle... the video should be on youtube soon so I wont argue before I can show what I just saw in the replay after the race.

He might not have done it on purpose but that is even worse... the man is a raging bull on circuit. What I saw on the on board from Grojeans car was that he left Maldonado some room but what I saw in the other angle was Maldonado closing the door before he had totaly passed the Lotus sending him off road when it wasn clear that he could have avoid it.
 
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If you believe in omens, five of the last six winners of the Aussie GP have gone on to win the F1 world title. Looking good for Jenson.
 
Matt
If you believe in omens, five of the last six winners of the Aussie GP have gone on to win the F1 world title.
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And Jenson in 2010 was the odd one out...

(Not including 09.)
 
Maldonado seemed to just drive the exit of the corner as if there was no other car in it, completely his fault as far as I see it. The reason why is a complete mystery though, as there's no way he could have thought he was already far enough ahead to carry that line.
 
C-ZETA
And Jenson in 2010 was the odd one out...

(Not including 09.)
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But 2010 was a wet race, Jenson won with tactics. This time is was dry and he has the fastest car, like 09.
 
Replay on Sky showed the incident. They both knew where each other was, Maldonado held his line, Grosjean didn't expect him to maintain the line and Grosjean squeezed himself off. In hindsight Grosjean should have backed out of the move. Especially with Maldonado being the attempted pass.
 
Matt
If you believe in omens, five of the last six winners of the Aussie GP have gone on to win the F1 world title. Looking good for Jenson.
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It's not always true then. So... big whoop?
 
Smuttysy
Maldonado seemed to just drive the exit of the corner as if there was no other car in it, completely his fault as far as I see it. The reason why is a complete mystery though, as there's no way he could have thought he was already far enough ahead to carry that line.
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He was ahead and Grosjean was int he blind spot going into the corner, thus a race incident and more of Grosjean. We saw this same thing last year with Massa and Hamilton. Where Hamilton was in Grosjean's place and Pastor in Massa's and we know how that ended.
 
dhandes
Replay on Sky showed the incident. They both knew where each other was, Maldonado held his line, Grosjean didn't expect him to maintain the line and Grosjean squeezed himself off. In hindsight Grosjean should have backed out of the move. Especially with Maldonado being the attempted pass.
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That's what I said earlier as well, and others seemed to see it differently. I guess we will have to wait for the videos.
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
He was ahead and Grosjean was int he blind spot going into the corner, thus a race incident and more of Grosjean. We saw this same thing last year with Massa and Hamilton. Where Hamilton was in Grosjean's place and Pastor in Massa's and we know how that ended.
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Cmom he had just passed him and he wasnt aware he was there??????
And it wasnt the first time that he pulled that on Grojean... very similar incident to this (same drivers)



IMO he is an rude idiot... (with sponsors) and got what he had coming in the final lap.

Quoting Martin Brundle after analizing the incident «that was very rude from Madonado»
 
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And, since 2007, every pole-sitter at the Australian GP has gone on to win the championship.
 
Too bad Shumi went off - I hope it was some mechanical failure and not the driver's error ... :)

I liked new HELMET CAMERA replay - the one showing driver's head movements - I hope it stays in transmissions for longer and is used much more frequently (and is someday somehow used in GT... ;) )
 
DaxCobra
And, since 2007, every pole-sitter at the Australian GP has gone on to win the championship.
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And 2006 and before? Still doesn't prove anything. It's an interesting statistic but just a statistic. It's not an omen of anything.
 
Lotrzyna
I liked new HELMET CAMERA replay - the one showing driver's head movements - I hope it stays in transmissions for longer and is used much more frequently (and is someday somehow used in GT... ;) )
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That would be look to apex. If it was adjustable it would be a very welcome addition. :)
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
He was ahead and Grosjean was int he blind spot going into the corner, thus a race incident and more of Grosjean. We saw this same thing last year with Massa and Hamilton. Where Hamilton was in Grosjean's place and Pastor in Massa's and we know how that ended.
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Agreed, it was a racing incident, but Maldonado has to be attributed with the blame. Grosjean may well have been (slightly) in a blind spot, but he also left plenty of room for him to maintain the overtaking line, rather than fading through. As I said before there's no way Maldonado could have been far enough ahead to have taken the line he did unless that corner was completely empty.
 
tribolik
Cmom he had just passed him and he wasnt aware he was there??????
And it wasnt the first time that he pulled that on Grojean... very similar incident to this (same drivers)



IMO he is an rude idiot... (with sponsors)
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Yeah your opinion, obviously you have a chip on your shoulder in regards to Pastor and thus jump to the conclusion that he did it on purpose. Gee what a sound argument you have there, so very clever and well thought out.

Also the vid you show, gives us a look at Grosjean locking up diving into the corner and thus Pastor had to pass. If he didn't he would have probably run into the back of Grosjean mid corner. Seems grosjean is just a tad bit stubborn to give up a spot when he makes a mistake.
 
MazdaPrice
And 2006 and before? Still doesn't prove anything. It's an interesting statistic but just a statistic. It's not an omen of anything.
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I know, and I don't believe it makes a difference myself, I am just saying.

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