2012 ZR1 around Nordshleife...timed wrong?

[oohhh yeah]

Look at the beginning. The clock starts running at the right place, but at the end the clock stops RIGHT as he turns the last corner. Shouldn't he have to go a bit more before the timer stops?

 

[Keef]

This argument has been going on for years. Many manufacturers stop timing at that same point, probably so the car can slow to pull into the pit area before the first corner.

 

[Tornado]

There is no "right" way to time it.

 

[oohhh yeah]

Then how do you compare times if everybody times it differently?

 

[Tornado]

Then how do you compare times if everybody times it differently?

Exactly.

 

[Cano]

Lets fix this.

EDIT: Damn, another car with CUP tires.

 

[Keef]

EDIT: Damn, another car with CUP tires.

There's nothing wrong with using the best street legal tires you can find. But a problem arises when people start comparing cars with different tires, praising one for winning (say, the Renault Whatchamacallit that used R888s) and denouncing the other for losing (say, the Colbalt SS which was only slightly slower but used tires at least 2 performance categories lower than the Renault, among other things).

So yeah, the Cobalt is faster. Not going to let that one go until I see somebody test the Cobalt with R888s and watch it dump all over the Renault.

 

[homeforsummer]

So yeah, the Cobalt is faster. Not going to let that one go until I see somebody test the Cobalt with R888s and watch it dump all over the Renault.

Or until you realise the newer version of the RS Megane has gone about 9 seconds quicker than the previous one which was 6 seconds quicker than the Cobalt. On Bridgestone RE 050As, which are regular performance road tyres rather than soft-compound semi-slicks.

Now you can let it go.

Not to mention that 'Ring times are largely irrelevant anyway and that the Megane is the car you'd want to drive on the road.

 

[Keef]

Now you can let it go.

But we aren't talking about the new version, we're talking about the old version. And Chevy hasn't shown us a Cruze SS yet but it will probably be rad.

 

[homeforsummer]

But we aren't talking about the new version, we're talking about the old version. And Chevy hasn't shown us a Cruze SS yet but it will probably be rad.

Besides the point. Chevy could stick 888s on the Cobalt and it still wouldn't be quicker than the regular-tyred new RS.

As for a Cruze SS, we'll have to wait and see. Not getting any signs from Chevy that they're too bothered about making a performance version.

 

[Cale]

But we aren't talking about the new version, we're talking about the old version. And Chevy hasn't shown us a Cruze SS yet but it will probably be rad.

The Cruze SS would be heavier as well. I love me some Cobalt SS TC though.

 

[CodeRedR51]

The Cruze SS would be heavier as well. I love me some Cobalt SS TC though.

I'd rock one.

 

[Cale]

I'd rock one.

That no lift shift would be fun.

 

[sumbrownkid]

I think I'm with James May on this one, and say that too many companies are putting too much stock in the Nurb times.

Yeah the lap times are epic, but if I'm ever in the market for a super car, I don't necessarily care if it can beat some other car by so many seconds.

 

[TVC]

There's nothing wrong with using the best street legal tires you can find. But a problem arises when people start comparing cars with different tires, praising one for winning (say, the Renault Whatchamacallit that used R888s) and denouncing the other for losing (say, the Colbalt SS which was only slightly slower but used tires at least 2 performance categories lower than the Renault, among other things).

So yeah, the Cobalt is faster. Not going to let that one go until I see somebody test the Cobalt with R888s and watch it dump all over the Renault.

Any company can use any tires they want. Just because a car is a certain amount of time slower than another car that uses better tires does not mean the slower car is faster. If it were faster it would have had a faster time.