2013 Formula 1 Japanese Grand Prix

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Also, F1 drivers haven't faked injuries since Juan Pablo Montoya became a father.
 
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Interesting to see a lap record that isn't by Schumacher or Vettel.

Also when watching the pole lap video in the OP, I was a bit surprised that in turns 1 and 15 they do not brake in to them. I'm so used to braking in to those turns in GT5 that for a split second on each of them I had an "OH SH#%" moment.
 
Whodoyouthink
Also when watching the pole lap video in the OP, I was a bit surprised that in turns 1 and 15 they do not brake in to them. I'm so used to braking in to those turns in GT5 that for a split second on each of them I had an "OH SH#%" moment.
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You can in fact get through 130R (turn 15) in an F2007 or an F10 without a lift if the car's set up for it.

dsgerbc
I think over the past several years more top-division football/soccer players died on the field than F1 drivers in an F1 car.
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Well, if by "football" we mean the American variety, yes, it's dangerous. A dozen or so players, generally but not always at the lower levels, bite it every summer and fall from a combination of heat-related illnesses and pre-existing heart conditions. Not to mention the by-now-well-documented risk of long-term brain damage from playing the sport. Which is why I qualified my original comment to say F1 is more dangerous than "most" sports.
 
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zippy_the_cat
You can in fact get through 130R (turn 15) in an F2007 or an F10 without a lift if the car's set up for it.
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That's good. I keep finding that the racing lines the real drivers use transfer very well in to GT5. On some tracks I improved my times by over 3 seconds.

Real life car set ups help too. Before, I used to keep high downforce on Monza and Spa, but ever since I realized both were low downforce tracks, I shed many seconds off my laptimes.

Haven't done much racing at Suzuka with the F1 cars though, so that's why it was so surprising.
 
Whodoyouthink
Haven't done much racing at Suzuka with the F1 cars though, so that's why it was so surprising.
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Nor have I; to me Suzuka's the toughest track in the game and it gives me the cold sweats in anything faster than a touring car. Much respect to guys who can drive it consistently well in the game in an LMP or F1.
 
Peasantslayer
for every year you look at for football you would need to look at 96 years of Formula 1 and then compare the deaths.
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Yes (provided you did the math right, it's too beside the point to check), but 96 years of F1 with roughly current safety standards, not 96 years of history.
And we've already had ~15 of those.

F1 is no longer a gore fest it used to be, there are plenty of jobs out there that are more dangerous.
 
F1 racing will always be inherently dangerous, football isn't. We're lucky to have not had a death since 1994 but that doesn't mean it isn't dangerous. Fernando was lucky not to have a Lotus smash into his head and kill him last year.
 
My prediction; once again Mark Webber will be looking to hitch a ride on a scooter :) and I get a 1,2,3 in the GTPlanet F1 Fantasy league :)
 
SVT Cobra GT
I don't seem to remember him ignoring them. I remember he tried to overtake Vettel in the last two laps and got alongside him coming out of Brooklands onto the old finish straight. Then Horner tells him to back off and he did so until the end.
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Yes but he was told to maintain position, and tried to pass anyway.
 
PeterJB
Yes but he was told to maintain position, and tried to pass anyway.
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If I recall correctly, the call from Horner (i.e. the team order) only came after he attempted to pass. The previous call was an instruction from his race engineer not to drop back from Seb.

I don't see how he ignored team orders in that instance. Once Horner made the call he dropped back.

EDIT: To keep on topic, I wonder if Kobayashi will make an appearence in the paddock?
 
F1.com weather is saying chance of rain on Friday, dry the rest of the weekend. Not that they're ever accurate so expect a dry Friday and wet rest of the weekend.
 
zippy_the_cat
Well, if by "football" we mean the American variety, yes, it's dangerous.
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No, not the American variety. You weren't aware that there have been multiple on-pitch deaths (and at least one near miss) due to heart problems? The name that immediately springs to mind for me is Marc-Vivien Foé.
 
MrWednesday
No, not the American variety. You weren't aware that there have been multiple on-pitch deaths (and at least one near miss) due to heart problems? The name that immediately springs to mind for me is Marc-Vivien Foé.
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Yes but that doesn't make going out onto a football pitch inherently dangerous. There is nothing directly related to football that is going to endanger your life like there is getting in a race car. People collapse from heart issues when jogging, it doesn't make the act of jogging dangerous.
 
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Could you imagine "Field Marshalls", standing by the sidelines with fire extinguishers at the ready, just in case a player spontaneously combusts from body heat?
 
MrWednesday
No, not the American variety. You weren't aware that there have been multiple on-pitch deaths (and at least one near miss) due to heart problems? The name that immediately springs to mind for me is Marc-Vivien Foé.
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Didn't know that; Euro soccer until recent years hasn't had the kind of profile in the US that would bring the fact widespread publicity here. There's also been a couple of on-court deaths in basketball (Hank Gaithers, Reggie Lewis) for similar reasons. Worth noting also that a number of drivers have perished from heart problems while racing, though that generally happens in the club ranks.

I would draw the same distinction others are on heart-attack deaths between racing and other sports. I'd also draw a distinction between other sports and American football, as a lot of the deaths in American football are a function of the sport's culture, i.e. practicing in the afternoon in southern states when it's 95 degrees F in the shade and 65-70 percent humidity. In that sense there's a pretty direct comparison with 70s-era F1 when a lot of the deaths were down to oversight, negligence or sheer stupidity.
 
Samus
F1.com weather is saying chance of rain on Friday, dry the rest of the weekend. Not that they're ever accurate so expect a dry Friday and wet rest of the weekend.
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You mean dry all the time (Zzzzzzzz). Can we please have a wet race, we haven't had one this year. At least it'll spice the last few races up, as none of these (Even Interlagos) have had a really good grand prix in the last few years. Rain on Sunday is needed now, just to give some other drivers a chance.
 
Spurgy 777
I thinks it's an overstatement to say F1 drivers are risking their lives every time they go out on track. It would take quite a lot for an F1 driver to be killed nowadays, I mean short of a blow to the head they are completely safe.
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Don't see how they are but I'm sure one of us could list from the past ten years events in motor racing that either were life or limb or close to it. Which would perpetuate the real world understanding that it is probably one of the most highly dangerous sports out there. There are many things that are safe but doesn't guarantee assurance.

Anyways, I think we all hope to see another Jeep on the track. :sly:

I'm sure there will be those that hope the other RBR catches on fire this week.

Then surely he'll take it at India in two weeks.
 
Strange goings on in FP1, Bianchi get's his hand/elbow caught and can't turn the wheel crashing at Degner 2, Maldonado's left rear falls off and Van De Garde said something broke for him to crash at Degner 2 as well.
 
Things are pretty pessimistic over here...

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1- ...
2- Voodoo'ing Vettel every weekend (nope, this doesn't work)
3- Explosive dhiarrea on every remaining race.
4- Alien abduction.
5- A Terminator goes back in time and terminates him.
 
Does any one have a gif of the marshal catching Maldonado's tyre at FP1? it was epic
 
darkfinal
5- A Terminator goes back in time and terminates him.
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And due to glitch in programming, Sebastian Janikowski is found dead, and the inventor of Tender Vittles is scrambling for a giant industrial press.
 
It's the left leg dive that I like. Anyway Vettel couldn't do a final run in FP3 because of a KERS issue but irrespective Webber is looking good. Hopefully he can beat him to pole and give him a race.

Also pretty ominous that both Red Bull's are at the top of the speed traps.
 
High hopes for Button today, he has done it well here, and I think he was doing it smoothly through the practice sessions.

Also, Gutierres' car almost catch fire.
 
Fire to Esteban's car.

JEV has issues with his car also on fire rear brakes it seems.


EDIT red flag for the moment.
 

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