2013 GTR vs 2012 Porsche 911 Turbo S

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Am I the only one who thinks that's a 'shop?
 
I think so?
 
na, i saw a white one exactly like that a few months back at a porsche car corral
 
Hmmm, of these two...

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Certainly over the Porsche, even if they were the same price. It just appeals to me more, but I've always liked GT-R's, particularly the R33.
 
Just sayn a really lazy designer but so isn't the Aston Martin guy!
 
MCNAGTROC
na, i saw a white one exactly like that a few months back at a porsche car corral
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I'm not saying the car is fake. I think that the specific picture posted of the red GT2 RS is just a Photoshop of a regular GT2.

The colors are off.
 
eSZee
Pumas don't cost 2x as much as SKECHERS.



That's because it's easier to get a prius to the limit on the street than a 3 series.
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No he took the 3 series to its limit, and then some.

That's why he is forced to drive the Prius.:)

And Pumas can cost double what sketchers can be.
 
The edge of the Prius' handling envelope is much easier to find. And it oversteers more happily than a modern 3-series round a roundabout.

Zenith013
Those in glass houses...

If a Porsche looks like a VW Beetle then a GTR looks like a Sentra or a brick. :lol:
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Funny you should mention that... That's why we removed the chrome grille from our Sentra (back in dem College days...), so it would look more like a Skyline...
 
And that's why GT-R is no longer a part of Skyline lineup.
 
Edit: Nevermind... Didn't read the rest of thread... OoPs
 
Teh vidya


[youtubehd]ENIo_RnFp_g[/youtubehd]
 
He says the Porsche is less involving to drive than the GTR, and less effort. Total opposite of what the average person that never drove one will say. The tweaks from the early '09-'11 to the '12-'13 GTR's are pretty substanial. I know that the suspension tweaks and increase in hp/trq have really refined and kicked it up a notch.

Here are a few other cool vids by MotorTrend

 
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@Jay 'nuff said

I skipped to the drag, don't have time at the moment to watch the whole video. :p
 
Blackbird.
@Jay 'nuff said

I skipped to the drag, don't have time at the moment to watch the whole video. :p
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In which the whole point of the test is missed then lol. The Porsche was faster in a line but the GTR won the firgure 8 road course (3rd fastest car ever tested).

A few quotes from the article:

"When push came to brutal shove, I didn't feel I could go as hard and as fast in the Turbo S as I felt I could go in Godzilla. The 2013 GT-R seems to wrap the road up in a bear hug. There's next to no chance it will let go. As Scott said, those left-to-right (or right-to-left) transitions defy not only reason, but also expectation. Your hands are filled with such an immense feeling of control that I'm hard-pressed to think of another car capable of annihilating a ribbon of asphalt in such a commanding way."

"We spent a great deal of time trying to figure out if the extra $71,000 you'd invest in the Porsche paid for anything objectively meaningful over the Nissan's still-lofty $107,600 base price. It doesn't, and even if money were left off the table, the 2013 GT-R is the better car."

"I am truly in awe of what Nissan has accomplished with the 2013 refresh. Time to notch one more win on the GT-R's belt."

Nice avatar btw.
 
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MCNAGTROC
uh yeah thats what it was called...it was this... each manufacture represented in the petit le mans had a "car corral" i was invited by nissan to theirs and this is where i saw that GT2

not my video but here is the event
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmpxpMek_ok
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There was a good turnout in the corral's at the 12hr of Sebring event. Corvettes as far as the eye could see. The Porsche turnout was pretty good too, saw a few GT2 RS, GT3 RS's and RUF's (no Carrera GT's which suprised me). Nissan was decent, 8 R35 GTR's and a handfull of Z's as well as a group of racing Datsun's.

Back to topic: I do have to say, cheesy or not, I do like that yellow seat belt option in the Porsche, not worth the Porsche price for it, but aftermarket would be cool. And it will be interesting how Nissan responds when the new 991 comes out later this year.
 
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Cant agree with someone on this forum? Cuz on my fitness forum that's how we do.
 
Comparing looks will always be a trivial issue

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R32 and R33 GTR, old models but they look good even when compared to new models Porsche

Or this

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An old Porsche 930 Turbo . a model that I still love, simple yet beautiful, way better than the new GT3 ... the new gen model looks too complicated with curves and weird lights

If I have to choose, I would go for GTR, better value for money, badge prestige does not concern me, if I want more focus for track use, just strip the GTR,invest more money, increase the power

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/nissan-gtr/244151-forged-performance-hks-gt800-turbo-kit-install.html

- 650 rwhp sounds about right with low boost, then maybe replace the transmission with a Holinger sequential gearbox, and in the end I would have spent the same money with that Porsche, but this GTR will be much better track car.
 
Ridox2JZGTE
An old Porsche 930 Turbo . a model that I still love, simple yet beautiful, way better than the new GT3 ... the new gen model looks too complicated with curves and weird lights

If I have to choose, I would go for GTR, better value for money, badge prestige does not concern me, if I want more focus for track use, just strip the GTR,invest more money, increase the power

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/nissan-gtr/244151-forged-performance-hks-gt800-turbo-kit-install.html

- 650 rwhp sounds about right with low boost, then maybe replace the transmission with a Holinger sequential gearbox, and in the end I would have spent the same money with that Porsche, but this GTR will be much better track car.
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I put in ~$8k into my R35 GTR and it should run mid 10's in the 1/4 and with the LC5 launch 2.7sec to 60. Not bad considering the price difference (mine is a '10 so it didn't have the steep 100k price tag, so I'm still well under $100k even with mods). But then again, name brand and quality goes along with the price tag. Porsche has a great history of street and racing performance as well so I can't knock them. And Porsche can actually be considered a bargin if you compare their performance #'s and price tag with other exotics like Lambo's and Ferrari's, (although I love the 458 and Aventador, and I could justify paying a premium for those.)
 
If it's about being a track car, buy an STI and throw 60 grand worth of mods on it, and it'll beat both the GT-R and a Turbo S on the track.

Or go buy an Atom. Or an SR8.
 
Luminis
If it's about being a track car, buy an STI and throw 60 grand worth of mods on it, and it'll beat both the GT-R and a Turbo S on the track.

Or go buy an Atom. Or an SR8.
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That's why I don't get into that debate. You could always throw aftermarket parts into a car and beat something costing 3 times as much. You could have a Honda Civic running circles around a 458 Italia for a fraction of the price, but you are still in a Civic :yuck:. Although the GTR stock is still a supercar with insane performance, unlike the Civic's or STI's.
 
Every test I see against the GTR brings up its launch control but never shows the opposing car's have it as well, what gives? Don't the majority of sports cars have it nowadays anyways? Just seems off that they always act as though the GTR has an extra advantage that nobody else has.
 
a lot of cars have it

the turbo S in this test had launch control the aventador does... the LFA new mclaren
and so on..the new viper will

even the corvette has it now.. this 2011 corvette grand sport used it against me last month.... i heard him bring the revs up just before the light dropped

 
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I know many cars have it. My grippe is that as soon as they are compared to a GTR it never comes up in the discussion and in the process makes it seem like it is nothing that is a great peace of technology. Like in the video above, if you didn't know better you would never know the Porsche also has launch control.
 
Nish_280z
I know many cars have it. My grippe is that as soon as they are compared to a GTR it never comes up in the discussion and in the process makes it seem like it is nothing that is a great peace of technology. Like in the video above, if you didn't know better you would never know the Porsche also has launch control.
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I get what your saying, it's like they go out of their way to say the GTR is using launch control while fail to mention other cars using it at the same time.

MC - wow nice run, your '12 stock with only a midpipe should be about the same HP as a '13?
 
there is a reason for that. the GTR has had a sorted history with its launch control. its been a very discussed and debated topic in the car community with a bit of controversy ..so i think when these tests are done its just something that comes up because of either its reputation or the fact that it was so talked about the last few years and its just strongly associated with the car... other manufacturers have really flown under the radar with their launch control systems with no drama so they garner less attention
 

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