2013 NASCAR Thread

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I definitely think there's enough evidence here to confirm intent.

And if NASCAR does nothing, it makes them look even worse than Bowyer/MWR for being weak and allowing crap like this to pass.
 
doodlemonoply
I bet if Jeff actually made the chase, none of you would be complaining about Bowyer, Carl, John Darby, Michael Waltrip, ect. :lol:
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Obviously you didn't see the bet I made. Also I think more people are mad due to Newman not making it rather than Jeff, and also mad because instead of Jeff not making it Lagano did.

Most people around here don't like Lagano after the whole Hamlin thing.
 
iRevelationz
I definitely think there's enough evidence here to confirm intent.

And if NASCAR does nothing, it makes them look even worse than Bowyer/MWR for being weak and allowing crap like this to pass.
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If Bowyer gets to the last race and is still in the championship hunt, it would not shock me if someone "accidentally" turned into him.
 
iRevelationz
I definitely think there's enough evidence here to confirm intent.

And if NASCAR does nothing, it makes them look even worse than Bowyer/MWR for being weak and allowing crap like this to pass.
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The video of Bowyer's in-car from before he spun and during the spin is available on youtube.
 
Fun fact: Brad was fined a total of 31 points this season due to stuff.
He was 31 points out of 10th after Richmond.
 
Ganon83
Fun fact: Brad was fined a total of 31 points this season due to stuff.
He was 31 points out of 10th after Richmond.
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Give him back the 31 points, and he still loses out on a tie-breaker with Logano. Logano won a race, while Kes didn't. No Chase for the #2.
 
MustangRyan
Give him back the 31 points, and he still loses out on a tie-breaker with Logano. Logano won a race, while Kes didn't. No Chase for the #2.
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I know, still hilarious to know that....... and even better, now Brad can't say he was screwed out of a Chase spot, even though he would of been right on the edge.
My personal thoughts on this "Richmond Screwjob": If they don't make a ruling and fine Bowyer at least 25 points, then :yuck: this. Football season is starting at the right time, I'll go watch that instead of pro wrestling in cars.
 
So I'm writing a nice letter to 5-hour Energy. :)

I am writing this letter to inform you that due to your sponsorship of NASCAR driver Clint Bowyer and his Michael Waltrip Racing team, I will be boycotting all of your products and will be purchasing products from your immediate competitors until you cease sponsorship of both Driver and Team.

On the September 7th, 2013 race at Richmond International Raceway, Clint Bowyer intentionally spun his race car to create a cation with under 10 laps to go in the race. This directly caused two of my favourite drivers, Jeff Gordon and Ryan Newman to be put in a position were they were eliminated from NASCAR's "Chase for the Sprint Cup" to the benefit of fellow MWR teammate, Martin Truex, Jr.

Clint and MWR have single handedly made a complete mockery of NASCAR, and the sport of auto racing as a whole. As a fan of auto racing, I find these actions completely unacceptable and I no longer want any affiliation with any part of the MWR organization, including its corporate sponsors, of which Living Essentials, LLC's 5-hour Energy brand is one.

For the record, a similar situation happened in Formula 1 in 2008, when driver Nelson Piquet, Jr. intentionally crashed his car to the benefit of his Renault teammate, Fernando Alonso, enabling him to win a race. After it was revealed that Piquet had spun intentionally to fix the race, the teams sponsor, ING Group, immediately withdrew their sponsorship. Clint Boywer not only fixed this race (which Ryan Newman was going to win), but also drastically fixed the entire NASCAR Sprint Cup championship.

I sincerely hope that I am not the only one writing to you, and that you seriously reconsider your sponsorship of Clint Bowyer, and Michael Waltrip Racing.
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I doubt anything will happen, but whatever.
 
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Müle;8804155
So I'm writing a nice letter to 5-hour Energy. :)
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I wrote one (even though I should be doing my University homework) to NASCAR about how their inaction would further destroy a sport that others see and pro-wrestling on Wheels.

IZOD reg changes can't come fast enough.
 
Audio replayed by ESPN after the race had spotter Brett Griffin telling Bowyer the circumstances of the race, followed by two odd comments from crew chief Brian Pattie:

"Is your arm starting to hurt?" Pattie said. "I bet it's getting hot in there. Itch it."
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Then bowyer spun out.

Sounds alot like the Sergio Perez "we need this position" radio communication.

Of course NASCAR will deny there was any wrong doing. Its easier for them to ignore it then to investigate it, find Bowyer guilty, and deal out all the punishment.
 
Get ready for NASCAR Trucks at Iowa today! It's the Fan Appreciation 200 Presented by New Holland around the 7/8-mile Iowa Speedway. The Trucks have gone from the awesome road course at Mosport in Canada... to coming back to the USA to race one of (in my view) the coolest newer tracks today.

Good luck to all drivers and teams today at Iowa.
 
-The 55 and the 15 started lap 390 more then a lap ahead of the 22. The 22 ends lap 400 ahead of both.
-The 15 pits early under the caution and serves a stop and go....... On the restart, and gets back on track on the white flag.
-Vickers is told to pit on lap 396, replies "I have to WHAT?!"
-The 55 pits and goes super slow on the last laps, he goes 77 MPH on the last lap while everyone else is running about 122 MPH (Average)
 
So my original post a couple of pages back about a possible conspiracy wasn't a bunch of 🤬? Of course NASCAR will deny involvement despite mounting evidence.........
 
Some notes:

1) Sucks Newman missed the chase, although considering how the season started it's amazing he came this close.
2) Jimmie Johnson has filed a missing persons report for the horseshoe that was last seen in his rear.
3) If NASCAR lets MWR get away with the crap they did at Richmond I will probably be done with NASCAR.

RVDNuT374
So my original post a couple of pages back about a possible conspiracy wasn't a bunch of 🤬? Of course NASCAR will deny involvement despite mounting evidence.........
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What mounting evidence?

The only thing that would suggest NASCAR's involvement is Darby talking to Bowyer and we have no clue what he said(could have been anything from "good job" to "Your 🤬 is grass").
 
Full Vickers convo after "WHAT?!"
"I don't understand"
"We need to pit. We need that one point"
"10-4. Do we have a tire going down?"
"Yes. Pit"
 
OFFICIAL: #NASCAR is reviewing Sat. night’s race at RIR per protocol and has no plans for further statement until process is complete.
 
Blitz24
OFFICIAL: #NASCAR is reviewing Sat. night’s race at RIR per protocol and has no plans for further statement until process is complete.
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GOOD!!! #NASCAR has been taking a pounding on Twitter & Facebook. This isn't about Jeff not being in, it's about NASCAR allowing 2 obvious egregious instances to negatively affect the outcome of the season (perhaps)
 
i would lay the hammer down if i was nascar. bowyer and truex banned from the chase. car owner points stripped from all teams and heavy fines. This kind of stuff can not be tolerated. this is basically the equivalent of throwing a game in my opinion
 
chances14
i would lay the hammer down if i was nascar. bowyer and truex banned from the chase. car owner points stripped from all teams and heavy fines. This kind of stuff can not be tolerated. this is basically the equivalent of throwing a game in my opinion
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Why Truex? While he ended up benefitting from it, I doubt he had anything to do with it and as far as I could work out, Jeff wasn't able to get around before it happened anyway.
 
RACECAR
Why Truex? While he ended up benefitting from it, I doubt he had anything to do with it and as far as I could work out, Jeff wasn't able to get around before it happened anyway.
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While Bowyer did it on his own possibly, Vickers essentially was ordered to park his car.
 
Carbonox
Only Bowyer did something wrong. It would be fairly twisted to punish Truex too.
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RACECAR
Why Truex? While he ended up benefitting from it, I doubt he had anything to do with it and as far as I could work out, Jeff wasn't able to get around before it happened anyway.
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because banning truex will hurt mwr. It may be unfair to truex but this stuff can't be allowed.

With the standings seemingly getting closer and closer every year, i could see it happening more often. nascar needs to send the message to everyone that this kind of stuff will not be tolerated
 
chances14
because banning truex will hurt mwr. It may be unfair to truex but this stuff can't be allowed.

With the standings seemingly getting closer and closer every year, i could see it happening more often. nascar needs to send the message to everyone that this kind of stuff will not be tolerated
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So to send a message, they have to unfairly punish someone who wasn't even aware of it (which wouldn't be a surprise given he's already got a full plate with his spot as well as driving with an injured wrist). That's not sending a message, that's further making NASCAR a joke in its officiating as well as further proving their inconsistancy in making the right call.
 

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