2013 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix

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Are you even allowed to cross the white line during a pass? Vettel was virtually passing Webber in the pitlane there.
 
Just made a thread for Webber vs vettel.
 
F1 fan
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I mean it's not like you have it in for him or anything. :rolleyes:

As Small Fryz said (and I have said many times in the past) Far too many people here complain when a driver they don't like does something and applaud another for doing the same thing.

It's pathetic guys.
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If you can show me in my post where I mention anyone other then Vettel and Webber, I would be interested.

You are free to ignore the facts, but he took a cheap shot at his team mate - a team mate who was following what the team were telling him and Vettel what to do.
 
Helmut Marko should be intervened more often. :sly:

To those of you who are okay with Vettel doing that, how would you feel if YOU ran the team and both cars ran out of fuel on the last lap becasue they wouldn't do as they are told?
 
the almighty Senna would have passed Webber too.
 
They're racing drivers. That's the end of it really. Ridiculously good race. Worth a 4am bedtime.
 
I have lost the little respect for Vettel I had left. What a little, immature child. I'm disgusted that he directly disobeyed team orders when he was told the race was over. 👎 Order should have been Webber, Vettel, Rosberg. Hamilton was a true gentleman on the podium there, gets him points in my book.
 
Horner isn't really answering the questions. He'd make a good politician.
 
SilverArrow
It's not possible, everyone would just speak in code and it would change nothing.
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Not unless a rule was that all radio transmissions are to be spoken in plain english or some other language and with no codes.
 
If Seb goes against team orders, RBR says: Don't do it again.
If Mark goes against team orders, RBR says: opening at RBR.
 
Small_Fryz
What did Helmut say?
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He said the situation at Red Bull was not like Mercedes where 'they have a clear number one and number two driver' and that Red Bull treat their drivers equally...

Ironically, in this instance Red Bull were trying to treat the drivers equally, but Seb took matters into his own hands and over-ruled team orders... arguably there shouldn't be team orders, but Seb has (in my opinion atleast) over-stepped the m(M)ark here...
 
Bye Ya
Ayrton Senna would have passed his teammate there, methinks.
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No, he would have crashed into his team-mate and then gone on a rant about going for the gap.
 
It was just said that Webber followed team orders and backed off the pace while Vettel didn't.

Well..yeah. :lol:
 
F1 fan
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I mean it's not like you have it in for him or anything. :rolleyes:

As Small Fryz said (and I have said many times in the past) Far too many people here complain when a driver they don't like does something and applaud another for doing the same thing.

It's pathetic guys.
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Says one of the most vocal Hamilton haters on the forum.

:lol:
 
Small_Fryz
the almighty Senna would have passed Webber too.
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Yes, the almighty Senna who would run anyone off the track to dive into whatever hole he saw.
 
I actually like Seb more after today.
 
He pretty much backed up Webber there, which was crazy.

But the whole thing about needing to "correct" their drivers, he took very seriously. Wish I could listen to that meeting.
 
Ok, Vettel is a terrific driver, he has proved as much with his performances in the wet, but replace him with Massa, Alsonso, Hamilton, Raikkonenen, Rosberg, Button, and do you really think they would do any less in an Adrian Newey designed car? Webber was never elite, the greatest myth in Formula One is that he is the same caliber as the great talents at other teams. He is not great, he is mediocre, he is the perfect No. 2 because he is obsolete. Even Maldonado would win consistently in a Red Bull...
 
Müle;8309055
Does anyone honestly still like Vettel after this?

If so, why?
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Me.

As I loved Senna vs Prost or Damon Hill vs Jaques Vilneuve. They all were racing drivers in the 1st place and then team players.
 
Well, my first FULL F1 race. Guess I choose a good one.
 
Mike Rotch
If you can show me in my post where I mention anyone other then Vettel and Webber, I would be interested.

You are free to ignore the facts, but he took a cheap shot at his team mate - a team mate who was following what the team were telling him and Vettel what to do.
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Just an fyi, the post wasn't purely aimed at you, however, you have made several posts moaning about Vettel now. Would you honestly be complaining if the same thing happened with Webber and Vettel in reversed roles? Where were you when Webber was ignoring team orders at Silverstone?

I honestly can't believe the amount of complaining going on here. As I've said in the past, it doesn't matter what Vettel does. There will still be those who complain about it.

Small_Fryz
the almighty Senna would have passed Webber too.
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This.
 
Grayfox
That is a lie.

He would find 20 ways to destroy it.

A new way each race.
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Not true. There are only 19 races. He'd win one race and not finish any of the others.
 
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Bottas in 11th...he could get a point assuming Vergne gets some sort of penalty for the release into the Caterham.

Also, good work by Bianchi again, showing just how out of his depth poor old Chilton seems to be.
 
Next race could be more interesting, I reckon Webber won't be obeying many orders now.
 
As previously mentioned, the majority of the board highly respect Senna and you all know damn well he'd have done the same thing.
 
Alex.
As previously mentioned, the majority of the board highly respect Senna and you all know damn well he'd have done the same thing.
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Yes.

I said that 2 or 3 times ^^
 
Can't believe all the pit drama. FI was a JOKE.

McLaren having to retire Button after that improvised test, and Perez's pit on lap 55, WTF!
 
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