2015 Formula 1 Gran Premio De Mexico

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The titles may be done and dusted, but we still have 3 races left. After the washout and crazy race of Austin, Formula 1 returns to the Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez in Mexico City for the first time since 1992. The circuit has been updated to a more 2015 style layout, while still keeping a similar feel.
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1992 Result
1: Nigel Mansell (Williams-Renault)
2: Ricardo Patrese (Williams-Renault
3: Michael Schumacher (Benetton-Ford Cosworth)
 
Could potentially be another wet race. Could potentially be another interesting race if so. Lots of similarities with COTA on most corners, minus the elevation.
 
Any race could potentially be wet. Austin was wet because of Hurricane Patricia, but Patricia dissipated three days ago. She'll be out of energy before the race.
 
What times have people been doing around the track in F1 2015?

Looks like it may be a new race with actual spectators. Apparently it sold outin 10 minutes
 
Could potentially be another wet race. Could potentially be another interesting race if so. Lots of similarities with COTA on most corners, minus the elevation.

Forecast is some rain for Friday, same again for Saturday, lower possibility for Sunday. The big rain storm that's around that area at the moment looks to be dissipating.
 
Not like Mercedes would have anything to lose other than a race victory if so. They've got the championships locked up.
 
Not like Mercedes would have anything to lose other than a race victory if so. They've got the championships locked up.

Isn't the divvy point for point though? 43 points unscored represent a 43-point-lower share, don't they? On the other hand it guarantees a good slice of the TV-time-share :D

EDIT: I'm thinking now that it's actually by championship position... so TV share notwithstanding I think you're right.
 
If the Mercs are next to each other on the grid, I can see Rosberg instantly driving to the inside line, try to force Lewis off at turn 1, screw it up and take both cars out of the race.

I doubt it, Rosberg overtake in Austin on Lewis was very clean, he left lots of room on the outside. Beside what would be the point, except damaging his reputation and his image within the team.

Back to Mexico, I'm curious to see the track and what it looks like, like that on paper it doesnt looks that interesting. Last time I saw some real footage of it was last year when BBC went there. But it was still pretty much a work in progress.
 
Some good sections...



I really wish we could get some other track designer so we could have some variety. Start looks good but after a bit it start looking like Austin, then Sotchi. We'll see what kind of racing it will produce I guess :)
 
I really wish we could get some other track designer so we could have some variety. Start looks good but after a bit it start looking like Austin, then Sotchi. We'll see what kind of racing it will produce I guess :)
What would they have done different with all of the restrictions that the FIA sets? I think Tilke did a good job of the re-configuration.
 
The bits of land the circuit owns are very thin, and it's the best design that allows the runoff needed.
 
If the Mercs are next to each other on the grid, I can see Rosberg instantly driving to the inside line, try to force Lewis off at turn 1, screw it up and take both cars out of the race.
I'd like to see this too! Not so much Nico just take Lewis our directly, but rather, if given the chance, throw the most aggressive move he's ever tried up the inside, or block Lewis, or run him out wide....something, anything to show that he's got some push-back in him.

Maybe the opportunity won't present itself in Mexico, but before the end of this season (while they're basically free races with the WDC decided), I think Nico needs to take the fight to Lewis in any way he can, and in ways he hasn't before. Show some aggression, show a mean side!!
 
What would they have done different with all of the restrictions that the FIA sets? I think Tilke did a good job of the re-configuration.

I'm not a track designer and I dont know the FIA rules. Anything more I'll just repeat what I already said.

I didnt fancy Austin that much at first and now I find it quite good. Maybe I need to get f1 2015 and see if I like the track or not.
 
Some good sections...



Never seen the track before. Looks like a power track with a few technical sections. I can see the Williams being strong here.

Also, the arena part of the track looks sweet.
 
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The track actually doesn't look too terrible. I'm have mixed opinions on Tilke's work (Redbull, Dubai, Turkey, Malaysia, Atlanta I like, others not so much), but this looks like it could be quite interesting.

I'm one of those people who prefer the old tracks, with massive elevation change and big sweeping corners, but lately, I've started to better understand why those kind of tracks don't necessarily produce the best racing to watch, especially with modern F1 cars.

The Sky announcers touched on it during the COTA race, but the modern formula to produce good wheel to wheel racing in F1 is to have a long straight, hard brake zone, followed by a complex of slow to medium speed corners. It's these type of sections where we see cut backs, double overtakes, multiple lines, etc.

So based on that principle, on paper, I think this track can produce some exciting racing, despite the track itself maybe not being the most challenging circuit on the calender.

I do like the way the surrounding area is sort of grown in and weathered. I hate the look of brand new ciruits that look like barren construction zones.

In further detail, I like the exit of the first complex (turns 2 &3). Hopefully they won't be able to take these flat out. To me, these two kinks are reminiscent of the first chicane at Monza in the 1980s.

The second complex is less exciting I think, but hopefully produce some moves. The obvious choice is the inside into T4, but the next two corners are right handers, so we might see people trying the outside of 4 to get the line into 5 & 6 (sound familiar ;)?).

The whole back section of sweeping Esses is fantastic! It's one of those sections that drivers back in the day quite liked, and the revised layout maintains the flow. Only downside is it will probably be tricky to follow someone closely through this part of the track.

The stadium :(. The necessary evil. I get that the number one goal with this track is proximity to a major city and maximum seating for the enormous crowd, but I'm not a big fan of this section. It does nothing for me. However, while I don't like the actual layout, the very low speed nature of it will allow cars to close distance after the sweepers, before blasting out onto the front straight...which in theory, should lead to more overtaking into T1.

But that's all on paper :lol: We'll see how it all plays out. With the performance difference this year, we may end up seeing more DRS overtaking on the straights than anything.

My fingers are crossed for more rain if I'm honest (sorry Mexican fans going to the race :dopey:)
 
The stadium section is fine, except for the hairpin followed by a hairpin and a left kink. Why does it have to be the silly thing that you have to follow through.
 
The stadium section is fine, except for the hairpin followed by a hairpin and a left kink. Why does it have to be the silly thing that you have to follow through.
Where do you see a hairpin, hairpin, left kink section of the track??

Not sure what the last sentence is even referring to :confused:
 
There really is no point to this track at all. It was only ever about one corner and that's gone so no chance of this sort of thing again.



They should have held the race someway else.
 
Where do you see a hairpin, hairpin, left kink section of the track??

Not sure what the last sentence is even referring to :confused:
In the Foro Sol baseball stadium at the end of the lap.
This was used before, and is a better solution.
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There really is no point to this track at all. It was only ever about one corner
That's arguable. Both the section of esses, and the massive straight, along with the elevation were and still are interesting aspects of this track.



and that's gone so no chance of this sort of thing again.


With the cars of today, there's basically no chance of that anywhere. Final turn at Monza is the same thing...the cars just can't get close to each other through that type of corner.

All that corner would do today is increase the distance between the cars leading onto the main straight.

They should have held the race someway else.
Such as? Right in the heart of Mexico City is the best place to have a GP in Mexico.

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In the Foro Sol baseball stadium at the end of the lap.
This was used before, and is a better solution.
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Thats all fine and dandy, but I still am not seeing a double hairpin followed by a left kink anywhere on any layout of the circuit.
 
There really is no point to this track at all. It was only ever about one corner and that's gone so no chance of this sort of thing again.



They should have held the race someway else.


Not really. That whole corner is still there, the FIA just for some reason doesn't want it used for the GP.
 
In the stadium at the end of the lap
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The stadium is turns 12 through 16. How is that a double hairpin? I'm guessing 15 is your left kink...but it's hardly even a corner.


Anyways, it doesn't matter really...I'm home sick and bored :lol:
 
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