2015 General WEC/ELMS/AsLMS Discussion ThreadSports Cars 

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catamount39
I was being distracted by being on eBay...so I apologize for my screwy writing. :embarrassed:

I'm a Corvette and AMR fan...of course I'm biased. :lol: :P

The FIA/ACO would never allow the M6 GTLM though, they don't allow the Z4 GTLM (even if it wasn't so draggy that any team who wanted to run it at Le Mans would be insane lol).
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Because the Z4 GTE has so many concessions it is ridiculous.
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
But you didn't say that, and I figure they would but nothing is official or at least I haven't seen it in any one of the two threads. If you have something official post it up for me, but my point is that if a team is invited that means BMW are at Le Mans with V8 power. You claimed nirvana with just Vette and Aston V8 and that's called bias.:D

You said GTLM couldn't go to WEC, but if that was so then why do they get to race Le Mans, the WEC GTE-Pro isn't that different from the LM.
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http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/details-emerge-from-fia-balance-of-peformance-test-at-ladoux/

Multiple sources have confirmed to Sportscar365 that BMW was present with two M6 models, the previously announced GT3 car as well as the GTLM variant that will be homologated for IMSA competition only.

Everything I have heard about this Imsa spec M6 GTLM it is in no way a guarantee it will race. Some in the Imsa GTLM field are not thrilled about this GT3 car being allowed so they might end up running it as a GT3 in GTD class.
 
IforceV8
http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/details-emerge-from-fia-balance-of-peformance-test-at-ladoux/

Multiple sources have confirmed to Sportscar365 that BMW was present with two M6 models, the previously announced GT3 car as well as the GTLM variant that will be homologated for IMSA competition only.

Everything I have heard about this Imsa spec M6 GTLM it is in no way a guarantee it will race. Some in the Imsa GTLM field are not thrilled about this GT3 car being allowed so they might end up running it as a GT3 in GTD class.
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Well many weren't happy about the last BMW either so not sure why this one wouldn't get to run over that? Just curious since I don't know much about BMW other than they have a car, beyond that I learn from you guys.
 
The ALMS/Imsa needed BMW so they were more than happy to just say "OK" run it. I think the biggest issue the OEM's are having now is that BMW is wearing a clip on tie to the formal dinner by bringing a customer spec GT3 car to the premier class with this new car.
 
I wonder if perhaps Rahal's comments last year about having a prototype team is really just a plan b in case the GTE car falls through.

Also, hopefully Larbre does go to GTE-Pro with full/partial GM backing, it would make the WEC that much better (especially if Nissan gets their crap sorted out).
 
Interesting to note that Cota has the least amount of paid fines so far this year.
Silverstone €2,000
Spa €23,500
Le Mans €34,500 + Audi's €250,000 fine €319,000
Nurburgring €9,000
Cota €1,400
 
Holdenhsvgtsr
Interesting to note that Cota has the least amount of paid fines so far this year.
Silverstone €2,000
Spa €23,500
Le Mans €34,500 + Audi's €250,000 fine €319,000
Nurburgring €9,000
Cota €1,400
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Was the 250,000 the Audi engine fine? (was engine related IIRC)
 
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Before the race on Saturday, the WEC grid joined the Rebellion team to honor their fallen chief mechanic Damien Lewis.
 
Aston Martin Racing is calling for greater transparency in the GTE Balance of Performance process after its Vantages again proved off the pace in the Austin World Endurance Championship round.

AMR boss John Gaw believes changes to the BoP made ahead of the last month's Nurburgring event have unbalanced the field in GTE Pro and were unnecessary because the balance at the previous six-hour race at Spa in May was "the most equal in the history of the WEC".

He argued that transparent processes need to be put in place so that similar situations are avoided when the new GTE rulebook, which has been conceived to make the BoP process easier, comes into force for 2016.

"When a balanced formula is required at world championship level to control costs, all the manufacturers, the organisers and the suppliers should work better together to ensure what's happened to the competitive situation in WEC GTE post-Le Mans is corrected and not allowed to happen again," Gaw told AUTOSPORT.

"Those who sign off the budgets required for racing in that environment need confidence that as the flag drops to start a race that everyone has a fair chance to win, assuming the execution is at the highest level."

Gaw explained that the manufacturers were working with the FIA and the Automobile Club de l'Ouest, who write the rules, to increase transparency, but insisted that "work will be required now and in the future to ensure key stakeholders that sign off those budgets are convinced that it can deliver".

The Vantage GTEs have raced at each of the past two WEC events with an air-restrictor reduced in diameter by 5mm in comparison with the Silverstone and Spa rounds, which Aston has stated is worth between 10 and 20bhp.

The Ferrari 458 Italia has had its minimum weight raised by 5kg, while the Porsche 911 RSR has been given a 10kg weight break.

There was a separate BoP at the Le Mans 24 Hours because of the unique demands of the 8.47-mile Circuit de la Sarthe.

Porsche finished one-two at both the Nurburgring and Austin, while Aston notched up a best result of fourth each time.

Richie Stanaway and Fernando Rees put their Vantage on pole position at Austin after each used a set of soft compound Michelin tyres, while Ferrari is believed to have qualified on mediums and Porsche used only one set.
 
So for all the fuss that people made over the IMSA race and the track limits, including the commentators of the WEC race ("ooh it's so nice to see cars driving back on the track like they're supposed to"), the amount of cars abusing track limits in the WEC race is insane!

Every single corner that IMSA ran wide on, the WEC guys are running wide. Only difference is the WEC tries to be cheaky and discrete about it, whereas IMSA is blunt and open about it.

In the WEC race, there actually are cars who are gaining an advantage over others by running wide on corner exit. In the IMSA race, no one gained an advantage, because everyone was allowed run as wide as they like.

Between 15 mins and 20 mins into the WEC race is a great example of the WEC "respecting track limits".
 
twitcher
So for all the fuss that people made over the IMSA race and the track limits, including the commentators of the WEC race ("ooh it's so nice to see cars driving back on the track like they're supposed to"), the amount of cars abusing track limits in the WEC race is insane!

Every single corner that IMSA ran wide on, the WEC guys are running wide. Only difference is the WEC tries to be cheaky and discrete about it, whereas IMSA is blunt and open about it.

In the WEC race, there actually are cars who are gaining an advantage over others by running wide on corner exit. In the IMSA race, no one gained an advantage, because everyone was allowed run as wide as they like.

Between 15 mins and 20 mins into the WEC race is a great example of the WEC "respecting track limits".
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Well now, that's interesting to hear.
 
RACECAR
Well now, that's interesting to hear.
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It's really not. The big gotcha WEC high horse we dont cheat like those Imsa Nascar hacks moment was the Labre Vette diving to the inside at turn 1 and running wide.

It wasnt this BS move on the last lap for the final podium place in the seatbelts optional series owned by the lugnuts optional company.
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IforceV8
It's really not. The big gotcha WEC high horse we dont cheat like those Imsa Nascar hacks moment was the Labre Vette diving to the inside at turn 1 and running wide.

It wasnt this BS move on the last lap for the final podium place in the seatbelts optional series owned by the lugnuts optional company.
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What a surprise, more IMSA bashing.

I guarantee if this was not under NASCAR ownership, people wouldn't relentlessly bash the hell out of it as much as they do now (Just as was the case with Grand-Am).
 
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trustjab
Any news on Nissan testing at cota?
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Apart from what was said like...months ago, not really.


Now that I think about it, I haven't heard about Nissan doing anything with the GT-R Nismo Lm since that.
 
RACECAR
Apart from what was said like...months ago, not really.


Now that I think about it, I haven't heard about Nissan doing anything with the GT-R Nismo Lm since that.
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They were testing tuesday and wednesday at cota according to the team.
 
RACECAR
Apart from what was said like...months ago, not really.


Now that I think about it, I haven't heard about Nissan doing anything with the GT-R Nismo Lm since that.
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I found this article, came here to post it actually, was from last week.
http://www.racer.com/wec-le-mans/item/121597-wec-nissan-preparing-for-post-cota-test

it is as @trustjab said a test at cota. Apparently they tested their initial improvements in July, and they worked.

I find this quote to be interesting.
the two-car team is expected to return for the Nov. 1 race in China and the final round in Bahrain on Nov. 21.
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I hope they do well. :) If anyone has any more news about it I would like to know.
 
In the July Nissan's Best lap was a 1:59, the best LMP2 time in qualifying was sounds like they were still at LMP2 pace, unless they were using a different layout of the circuit...
 
I think at the least, Porsche is safe in lmp1. But I dont think they (Audi and Porsche) will be getting a budget increase! ;)
 
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