2015 NASCAR Thread - And then there was 1

[ukfan758]

If you want to even call NASCAR racing.

I call it a show in its current form.

 

[spacecowboy73]

If that's considered dirty, then NASCAR may not be the racing series for you

I've seen interviews with NASCAR drivers that have said they could have won doing the same thing in races past. Maybe they shouldn't be in the series either?

 

[ukfan758]

I've seen interviews with NASCAR drivers that have said they could have won doing the same thing in races past. Maybe they shouldn't be in the series either?

No because they didn't do what they said they would do.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

I think he pushed really hard the whole time. It's still a fair win but it's not how to make friends.

That's the biggest deterrent against making such moves. Do it too often and drivers will give you less respect on the track.

If this happened in any non-american series, there would have been penalties.

And if those penalties weren't in place, guess what would happen? If racers can get away with something to win, they'll be more willing to do it.

If that's considered dirty, then NASCAR may not be the racing series for you

And that's pretty much all that needs to be said. NASCAR's not going to change the rules because things like this gets people's attention.

 

[Demon Drone]

I call it a show in its current form.

I can agree with that. It's rather sad to see how bastardized it has become.

 

[nascarfan1400]

I can agree with that. It's rather sad to see how bastardized it has become.

Its better than it was in the COT era. Ewww.

 

[GTRacer22]

Publicity.

 

[Eva]

Stock car racing is racing. It's not as talent based as other series, but a 3,500 pound car going about 190 mph for 3-4 hours is still as enduring as an F1 or an IndyCar race. My problem with NASCAR is that quite frankly the casual fans have them by the gonads, and the casual fan thinks that moves like that are cool, so the policing is relaxed. IndyCar is the same way, so welcome to America I guess.

 

[ukfan758]

Stock car racing is racing. It's not as talent based as other series, but a 3,500 pound car going about 190 mph for 3-4 hours is still as enduring as an F1 or an IndyCar race. My problem with NASCAR is that quite frankly the casual fans have them by the gonads, and the casual fan thinks that moves like that are cool, so the policing is relaxed. IndyCar is the same way, so welcome to America I guess.

At least Indycar gives out penalties, but on the following Wednesday and not race day.

 

[nascarfan1400]

Stock car racing is racing. It's not as talent based as other series, but a 3,500 pound car going about 190 mph for 3-4 hours is still as enduring as an F1 or an IndyCar race. My problem with NASCAR is that quite frankly the casual fans have them by the gonads, and the casual fan thinks that moves like that are cool, so the policing is relaxed. IndyCar is the same way, so welcome to America I guess.

Don't forget people who miss the "good ol days" where it was a dangerous mess and people were getting killed because of ignorance.

 

[GTPorsche]

Back when NASCAR penalized for such moves.

 

[Eva]

Don't forget people who miss the "good ol days" where it was a dangerous mess and people were getting killed because of ignorance.

In F1 I will say that it's become too safe. For NASCAR and IndyCar, the safety advancements are fine and shouldn't be made even safer.

 

[Demon Drone]

Its better than it was in the COT era. Ewww.

That isn't saying much.

 

[nascarfan1400]

Back when NASCAR penalized for such moves.

EDIT: Whoops, wrong accident.

 

[ukfan758]

In F1 I will say that it's become too safe. For NASCAR and IndyCar, the safety advancements are fine and shouldn't be made even safer.

Well Jules Bianchi just died after an accident from a lack of safety on the crane and a lack of common sense by the track officials. So I wouldn't say F1 is too safe...

 

[GTPorsche]

EDIT: Whoops, wrong accident.

Not the Tommy Kendall incident... it's the Ricky Rudd-Davey Allison incident.

 

[nascarfan1400]

Well Jules Bianchi just died after an accident from a lack of safety on the crane and a lack of common sense by the track officials. So I wouldn't say F1 is too safe...

The cars are safe. The safety procedures aren't.

 

[Eva]

Well Jules Bianchi just died after an accident from a lack of safety on the crane and a lack of common sense by the track officials. So I wouldn't say F1 is too safe...

In an injury that was caused by the sudden stop of the car. And that comes down to common sense. Had common sense been applied, it wouldn't have happened. But you can't control common sense, which relates to Regan Smith's stupid move on Tagliani.

 

[ukfan758]

The cars are safe. The safety procedures aren't.

True.

 

[Eva]

The cars are safe. The safety procedures aren't.

Double post but yes, cars, tracks are as safe as a nerf built Prius.

 

[MustangRyan]

The Straight Outta Compton car is now Straight Outta the race.

I was going to post "Straight Outta Competition" when it happened, but my phone was downstairs.

 

[Ganon83]

They are called "bumpers" for a reason. If you don't outright wreck somebody and you are going for the win, it's perfectly fine. NASCAR has lived on this philosophy for 67 years.

 

[nascarfan1400]

They are called "bumpers" for a reason. If you don't outright wreck somebody and you are going for the win, it's perfectly fine. NASCAR has lived on this philosophy for 67 years.

Smiths move, albeit cheeky, was about as clean as moves like that get, but still, Tag had that one.

 

[GTPorsche]

There's no definition of bumper that states "allows one to legally shove others out of their way".

 

[MustangRyan]

I've seen interviews with NASCAR drivers that have said they could have won doing the same thing in races past. Maybe they shouldn't be in the series either?

Kasey Kahne last year behind Matt Kenseth?

 

[Carbonox]

*video of the Glen in 2012*

This is why it is the sport for a lot of us. A lot of the bumps here were unavoidable

Well, BK dumping Ambrose into the 2nd-to-last corner sure wasn't. Otherwise that was a great battle though, with a satisfying ending.

 

[nascarfan1400]

Well, BK dumping Ambrose into the 2nd-to-last corner sure wasn't. Otherwise that was a great battle though, with a satisfying ending.

Obvious BK is obvious

 

[SagarisGTB]

When will this thread be moved to the "Movies and TV" section of the forum where it belongs?

 

[AMPMROCKETFANN]

Ryan Eversley@RyanEversley2m

Funny observation..

My NASCAR friends thought Regan Smith made a legit pass.

My road racing friends thought it was dirty.

This Rallycross fan says that's nothin. OK if not expected by NASCAR standards, uncalled for, if not outright inviting interference by race control by Tudor/road racing standards, and "LOL he lost the race on that pansy hit"/"meh, just another by Rallycross standards. Back to your regulary scheduled forum banter.

Also, Jalopnik report http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/watch-regan-smith-bump-alex-tagliani-out-of-his-way-to-1724347631

 

[GTPorsche]

Ha... Jalopnik.. when is Kotaku doing their report on it as well?