2015 NASCAR Thread - And then there was 1

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Oh grief. Pack it in the lot of ya. When you can all go out there, and be inch perfect at 200mph racing for the biggest prize in your sport so perfectly without a single tiny error or lapse in concentration like a robot, then talk about it.
Exactly, besides it was the end of the race, if it was the first Lap they might of had a point, the fact he still did over 98% of the race shows that he can race.

Guess everyone involved in the inevitable last couple of lap wrecks in restrictor plate races are talentless.
 
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So you're saying that Dillon was expecting Jeff to jump to the outside(where no one was moving) and let him go by. I don't think so. I think Jeff was going to stay behind his teammate, Kasey Kahne. There was never a hole there whether Jeff twitched or not

Nowhere did I say that, I simply said that Gordon looked like he got lose and went up abit and Austin wasn't expecting him to come back on his nose the way he did. You saw yourself how skidish the cars were becoming, the race basically turned unto the classic Daytona races of old where handling was the factor and not

I wouldn't be if he didn't cause all the wrecks in last season's Daytona 500

So because of the many incidents he caused last year (in his rookie season no less) and the incidents he caused in Truck race (again in his rookie year), its alright to dogpile the hell out of him for the one accident he unintentionally caused?
 
So because of the many incidents he caused last year (in his rookie season no less) and the incidents he caused in Truck race (again in his rookie year), its alright to dogpile the hell out of him for the one accident he unintentionally caused?
I'll stop dogpiling him when he stops crashing the field. Simple as that. Heck, Danica can even run around out there and not wreck anyone.
 
My point is you're doing this as if he wrecks the field every single race when its only happened at Restrictor plates races, all the while the likes of Stenhouse are still around and wrecking someone no matter what race it is and doing something stupid almost everytime he does.
 
My point is you're doing this as if he wrecks the field every single race when its only happened at Restrictor plates races, all the while the likes of Stenhouse are still around and wrecking someone no matter what race it is and doing something stupid almost everytime he does.
Never said Dillon was the only one. They all have more skill than I do, and some have the right grandparents...
 
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Never said Dillon was the only one. They all have more skill than I do, and some have the right grandparents...

And here we go with this BS :rolleyes:

No you didn't say he was the only one but the way you are posting about these incidents (and even say that he shouldn't be driving) sure seem to paint that kind of picture. If he was as untalented as you appear to imply, then he should've been here in 2009 (after his brief stint in the Busch series at that time) instead of 2013.
 
Well I'm done. I just find this sort of attitude increasingly no longer funny anymore and actually beyond annoying now. So right, off we go.

Anyhow, where did Matt Crafton Finish? I only saw him flash by the wreck so I'm not sure where he ended up. He did a good job, not bad for his first cup start (which still surprises me).
 
Well I'm done. I just find this sort of attitude increasingly no longer funny anymore and actually beyond annoying now. So right, off we go.

Anyhow, where did Matt Crafton Finish? I only saw him flash by the wreck so I'm not sure where he ended up. He did a good job, not bad for his first cup start (which still surprises me).
I hope you understand it wasn't aimed at you.
 
I just have to wonder what the grid would look like if some people had their way. It seems like young drivers don't get any time to develop anymore.
 
And here we go with this BS :rolleyes:

No you didn't say he was the only one but the way you are posting about these incidents (and even say that he shouldn't be driving) sure seem to paint that kind of picture. If he was as untalented as you appear to imply, then he should've been here in 2009 (after his brief stint in the Busch series at that time) instead of 2013.
I'll give him credit when he does something. Up to now, he's not been the least bit impressive to me. It's not just him either. Stenhouse won a Nationwide title (or 2 maybe) and hasn't done anything in Sprint cup. I thought he sucked in Nationwide too. There are other examples, but equipment is a big deal to a lot of it. I don't think Dillon has what it takes to be successful, but if he does, I'll congratulate him just like I would anyone else. I do think that he only has his ride because Richard Childress is his granddad. He's going to have to prove to everyone that he's capable of not just finishing races, but he needs to show that he is competitive and able to win races and compete for championships.
 
I just have to wonder what the grid would look like if some people had their way. It seems like young drivers don't get any time to develop anymore.
Don't think so, they tend to get more experience at a younger age though.
 
So Logano wins it. This sucks. Well atleast Kezza, Hamlin, or Kenseth didn't win. and Gordon was a good sport about it. Also sounded like a pretty intense race judging by the forums here
 
In other news, Larson had a major hit just after the big one in the inside wall, but is ok.
 
I wish i'd actually be able to find some footage of the wreck. All FOX showed was Gordon spinning, and then straight back to the leader.
 
So, what have I missed in the last 4 hours other then arguments about whether or not Austin Dillon caused the last lap wreck? :sly: By the way, NASCAR once again shows it's consistent at being inconsistent by throwing the yellow when the wreck was well behind the leaders, while yesterday the drivers were allowed to race back to the line. :dunce:
 
Ive rechecked it and its iffy. Dillon definently had room to let off the gas, but at the same time I don't think he was paying attention to Gordon coming back down.


:rolleyes: Classy. Tony is my favorite, Hamlin did nothing wrong. Tony's car pushed, tony got into someone, Tony went out. Hamlin never even got into a bad position...

Everyone seems to be your favorite or you like them to some good extent as if you'd clearly be the first to stand up for driver A if someone did them ill or spoke bad about them when you don't agree. So by some ideal in this case if you see no wrong done to your favorite flavor clearly nothing occurred. Problem is, the aero loss from the left rear quarter panel and bumper is seen quite frequently since Gen 5, Hamlin was on Stewart's left and caused aero loss from what could be seen, when he should have been on the center or on the right. Does this mean he did it on purpose...not at all but Tony might not have seen it that way.

As were other drivers to others' left rear all day long, yet Stewart was the only one with an issue.

Maybe he needs a mile of room like Danica, yeah?

Maybe he does, considering he sided with Danica on what happened. I'm only saying I wouldn't be surprised if he did complain, not that I agree with him. That seems to be the disconnect you and another user have which is silly.
 
Everyone seems to be your favorite or you like them to some good extent as if you'd clearly be the first to stand up for driver A if someone did them ill or spoke bad about them when you don't agree. So by some ideal in this case if you see no wrong done to your favorite flavor clearly nothing occurred. Problem is, the aero loss from the left rear quarter panel and bumper is seen quite frequently since Gen 5, Hamlin was on Stewart's left and caused aero loss from what could be seen, when he should have been on the center or on the right. Does this mean he did it on purpose...not at all but Tony might not have seen it that way.
Ironically I don't like Denny. But seriously all that happened was Tony got tight. He said so in an interview.
 
Ironically I don't like Denny. But seriously all that happened was Tony got tight. He said so in an interview.

And you've proven my point, thanks. And what interview? Also that didn't look like the car was tight but rather loose if it had nothing to do with another car.
 
And you've proven my point, thanks. And what interview? Also that didn't look like the car was tight but rather loose if it had nothing to do with another car.
I don't think it was either. If you guys listened to the broadcast, they said that there was a decent breeze coming off of 4 affecting the cars. I bet Tony had snap oversteer because the track flattens out quickly off of 4 with the breeze changing the handling of the car. Many factors. He could've been tight. He could have been hit. I didn't see enough replays to know if he was hit or not, but from the angles I saw, it looked like he lost it without help
 
I don't think it was either. If you guys listened to the broadcast, they said that there was a decent breeze coming off of 4 affecting the cars. I bet Tony had snap oversteer because the track flattens out quickly off of 4 with the breeze changing the handling of the car. Many factors. He could've been tight. He could have been hit. I didn't see enough replays to know if he was hit or not, but from the angles I saw, it looked like he lost it without help

If a car didn't effect him then yeah I'd have to say you've summed it up correctly for once. ;)

You don't have to be hit to have aero loss, a car disturbing and changing the turbulence coming from the back end is enough to get you loose or cause snap oversteer. The kind that Tony and Danica blamed Hamlin for causing during speed weeks
 
It wasn't aired during the race but Stewart was interviewed after the wreck. He took full blame for what happened and said the car was tight because of the 2 right side tires he took on he prior stop.

If anyone else should be blamed, it's either mother nature because of the wind or Carl Edwards for washing out the aero on the front of Stewart's car and causing him to lose the front.
 
I just caught a re-air of the race on Fox Sports 1 and just saw the accident with Tony. Definitely was no contact involved, got sideways and just shot towards the wall.
 
By the way, NASCAR once again shows it's consistent at being inconsistent by throwing the yellow when the wreck was well behind the leaders, while yesterday the drivers were allowed to race back to the line. :dunce:
I read it or heard it somewhere, but the reasoning provided was that some of the cars were involved in very hard collisions, and NASCAR didn't want to make the safety crews wait another minute for the race to end. NASCAR felt that the safety crews needed to be released immediately on to the track to check on the drivers involved in the crash on the back stretch. This was probably an overreaction to the Kyle Busch accident from the day before (and possibly even from the Earnhardt crash 14 years ago), but it is hard to fault NASCAR for erring on the side of a driver's well-being in the seconds following a hard crash.
 
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