2016/17 Premier League & General Football Discussion

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  1. Liquid

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    PREMIER LEAGUE


    Current Champions: Leicester City

    Competing In Europe
    Champions League:
    Leicester City, Arsenal, Tottenham Hotspur, Manchester City
    Europa League: Manchester United, West Ham United, Southampton

    New Teams
    Came Up:
    Burnley, Middlesbrough, Hull City

    Arsenal
    Bouremouth
    Burnley
    Chelsea
    Crystal Palace
    Everton
    Hull City
    Leicester City
    Liverpool
    Manchester City
    Manchester United
    Middlesbrough
    Southampton
    Stoke City
    Sunderland
    Swansea City
    Tottenham Hotspur
    Watford
    West Bromwich Albion
    West Ham United

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    CHAMPIONSHIP

    Current Champions: Burnley

    New Teams
    Came Down:
    Aston Villa, Norwich City, Newcastle United
    Came Up: Wigan Athletic, Burton Albion, Barnsley

    Aston Villa
    Barnsley
    Birmingham City
    Blackburn Rovers
    Brentford
    Brighton & Hove Albion
    Bristol City
    Burton Albion
    Cardiff City
    Derby County
    Fulham
    Huddersfield Town
    Ipswich Town
    Leeds United
    Newcastle United
    Norwich City
    Nottingham Forest
    Preston North End
    Queen's Park Rangers
    Reading
    Rotherham United
    Sheffield Wednesday
    Wigan Athletic
    Wolverhampton Wanderers

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    LEAGUE ONE

    Current Champions: Wigan Athletic

    New Teams
    Came Down:
    Bolton Wanderers, Charlton Athletic, Milton Keynes Dons
    Came Up: Northampton Town, Oxford United, Bristol Rovers, Wimbledon

    Bolton Wanderers
    Bradford City
    Bristol Rovers
    Bury
    Charlton Athletic
    Chesterfield
    Coventry City
    Fleetwood Town
    Gillingham
    Millwall
    Milton Keynes Dons
    Northampton Town
    Oldham Athletic
    Oxford United
    Peterborough United
    Port Vale
    Rochdale
    Scunthorpe United
    Sheffield United
    Shrewsbury Town
    Southend United
    Swindon Town
    Walsall
    Wimbledon

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    LEAGUE TWO

    Current Champions: Northampton Town

    New Teams
    Came Down:
    Crewe Alexandra, Colchester United, Blackpool, Doncaster Rovers
    Came Up: Cheltenham Town, Grimsby Town

    Accrington Stanley
    Barnet
    Blackpool
    Cambridge United
    Carlisle United
    Cheltenham Town
    Colchester United
    Crawley Town
    Crewe Alexandra
    Doncaster Rovers
    Exeter City
    Grimsby Town
    Hartlepool United
    Leyton Orient
    Luton Town
    Mansfield Town
    Morcambe
    Newport County
    Notts County
    Plymouth Argyle
    Portsmouth
    Stevenage
    Wycombe Wanderers
    Yeovil Town
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    ENGLISH SUPER CUP

    Current Holders: Arsenal

    2016/17 Winners: Manchester United

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    FA CUP

    Current Holders: Manchester United

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    FOOTBALL LEAGUE CUP

    Current Holders: Manchester City

    2016/17 Winners: Manchester United

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    FOOTBALL LEAGUE TROPHY

    Current Holders: Barnsley

    2016/17 Winners: Coventry City

    MANAGER WATCH

    A log of all managerial departures from the top 92 because sackings are all too quick to happen these days.

    Arsenal - Arsene Wenger
    Bournemouth - Eddie Howe
    Burnley - Sean Dyche
    Chelsea - Antonio Conte
    Crystal Palace - Alan Pardew
    Everton - Ronald Koeman
    Hull City - [Vacant]
    Leicester City - Claudio Ranieri
    Liverpool - Jürgen Klopp
    Manchester City - Josep Guardiola
    Manchester United - Jose Mourinho
    Middlesbrough - Aitor Karanka
    Southampton - Claude Puel
    Stoke City - Mark Hughes
    Sunderland - David Moyes
    Swansea City - Francesco Guidolin
    Tottenham Hotspur - Mauro Pochettino
    Watford - Walter Mazzarri
    West Bromwich Albion - Tony Pulis
    West Ham United - Slavan Bilic

    Aston Villa - Roberto Di Matteo
    Barnsley - Paul Heckinbottom
    Birmingham City - Gary Rowett
    Blackburn Rovers - Owen Coyle
    Brentford - Dean Smith
    Brighton & Hove Albion - Chris Hughton
    Bristol City - Lee Johnson
    Burton Albion - Nigel Clough
    Cardiff City - Paul Trollope
    Derby County - Nigel Pearson
    Fulham - Slavisa Jokanovic
    Huddersfield Town - David Wagner
    Ipswich Town - Mick McCarthy
    Leeds United - Garry Monk
    Newcastle United - Rafa Benitez
    Norwich City - Alex Neill
    Nottingham Forest - Phillippe Montanier
    Preston North End - Simon Grayson
    Queen's Park Rangers - Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink
    Reading - Jaap Staam
    Rotherham United - Alan Stubbs
    Sheffield Wednesday - Carlos Carvahal
    Wigan Athletic - Gary Caldwell
    Wolverhampton Wanderers - Walter Zenga

    Bolton Wanderers - Phil Parkinson
    Bradford City - Stuart McCall
    Bristol Rovers - Darrell Clarke
    Bury - David Flitcroft
    Charlton Athletic - Russell Slade
    Chesterfield - Danny Wilson
    Coventry City - Tony Mowbray
    Fleetwood Town - Uwe Rösler
    Gillingham - Justin Edinburgh
    Millwall - Neil Harris
    Milton Keynes Dons - Karl Robinson
    Northampton Town - Rob Page
    Oldham Athletic - Stephen Robinson
    Oxford United - Michael Appleton
    Peterborough United - Grant McCann
    Port Vale - Bruno Ribiero
    Rochdale - Keith Hill
    Scunthorpe United - Graham Alexander
    Sheffield United - Chris Wilder
    Shrewsbury Town - Mickey Mellon
    Southend United - Phil Brown
    Swindon Town - Luke Williams
    Walsall - Jon Witney
    Wimbledon - Neal Ardley

    Accrington Stanley - John Coleman
    Barnet - Martin Allen
    Blackpool - Gary Bowyer
    Cambridge United - Shaun Derry
    Carlisle United - Keith Curle
    Cheltenham Town - Gary Johnson
    Colchester United - John McGreal
    Crawley Town - Dermot Drummy
    Crewe Alexandra - Steve Davis
    Doncaster Rovers - Darren Ferguson
    Exeter City - Paul Tisdale
    Grimsby Town - Paul Hurst
    Hartlepool United - Craig Hignett
    Leyton Orient - Andy Hessenthaler
    Luton Town - Nathan Jones
    Mansfield Town - Adam Murray
    Morcambe - Jim Bentley
    Newport County - Warren Feeney
    Notts County - John Sheridan
    Plymouth Argyle - Derek Adams
    Portsmouth - Paul Cook
    Stevenage - Darren Sarll
    Wycombe Wanderers - Gareth Ainsworth
    Yeovil Town - Darren Way

    26th September - Andy Hessenthaler (Leyton Orient, sacked) League Two
    28th September - Warren Feeney (Newport County, sacked) League Two
    29th September - Tony Mowbray (Coventry City, resigned) League One

    3rd October - Roberto Di Matteo (Aston Villa, sacked) Championship
    3rd October - Francesco Guidolin (Swansea City, sacked) Premier League
    4th October - Paul Trollope (Cardiff City, sacked) Championship
    6th October - Mickey Mellon (Shrewsbury Town, resigned - leaves for Tranmere Rovers) League One
    8th October - Nigel Pearson (Derby County, sacked) Championship
    19th October - Alan Stubbs (Rotherham United, sacked) Championship
    23rd October - Karl Robinson (Milton Keynes Dons, resigned) League One
    24th October - Paul Hurst (Grimsby Town, resigned - leaves for Shrewsbury Town) League Two
    25th October - Walter Zenga (Wolverhampton Wanderers, sacked) Championship

    5th November - Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink (Queen's Park Rangers, sacked) Championship
    14th November - Russell Slade (Charlton Athletic, sacked) Championship
    14th November - Adam Murray (Mansfield Town, resigned) League Two
    16th November - David Flitcroft (Bury, sacked) League One
    23rd November - Alberto Cavasin (Leyton Orient, sacked) League Two
    28th November - Kenny Jackett (Rotherham United, resigned) Championship

    1st December - Martin Allen (Barnet, resigned) League Two
    14th December - Gary Rowett (Birmingham City, sacked) Championship
    22nd December - Alan Pardew (Crystal Palace, sacked) Premier League
    26th December - Bruno Ribiero (Port Vale, resigned) League One
    27th December - Bob Bradley (Swansea City, sacked) Premier League

    2nd January - John Sheridan (Notts County, sacked) League Two
    3rd January - Justin Edinburgh (Gillingham, sacked) League One
    3rd January - Mike Phelan (Hull City, sacked) Premier League
    8th January - Danny Wilson (Chesterfield, sacked) League One
    9th January - Robert Page (Northampton Town, sacked) League One
    12th January - Stephen Robinson (Oldham Athletic, sacked) League One
    14th January - Philippe Montanier (Nottingham Forest, sacked) Championship
    15th January - Craig Hignett (Hartlepool United, sacked) League Two

    21st February - Owen Coyle (Blackburn Rovers, sacked) Championship
    23rd February - Claudio Ranieri (Leciester, sacked) Premier League

    5th March - Russell Slade (Coventry City, sacked) League One
    9th March - Graham Westley (Newport County, sacked) League Two
    10th March - Alex Neil (Norwich City, sacked) Championship
    12th March - Steve McClaren (Derby County, sacked) Championship
    13th March - Warren Joyce (Wigan Athletic, sacked) Championship
    16th March - Aitor Karanka (Middlesbrough, sacked) Premier League
    30th March - Danny Webb (Leyton Orient, resigned) League Two

    10th April - Marcus Bignot (Grimsby Town, sacked) League Two
    15th April - Kevin Nugent (Barnet, sacked) League Two
    17th April - Gianfranco Zola (Birmingham City, resigned) Championship
    25th April - Dave Jones (Hartlepool United, sacked) League Two

    4th May - Dermot Drummy (Crawley Town, sacked) League Two
    21st May - Walter Mazzarri (Watford, resigned) Premier League
    22nd May - David Moyes (Sunderland, resigned) Premier League
    24th May - Sam Allerdyce (Crystal Palace, resigned) Premier League
    25th May - Garry Monk (Leeds United, resigned) Championship

    Sackings: 35
    Resignations: 14

    Total: 49
     
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  2. Vegard

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    Gundogan to City done. Great signing for City, if he can stay fit.

     
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    And Koeman is on his way to sign at Everton.
     
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    Exactly and he's currently injured and will miss the start of the season. £20 million is just loose change to clubs like Man City though so it's a gamble worth taking.
     
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    And the first managerial sacking is...?
     
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    'Expectancy' will be the key word for the Premier League this coming year. What are Leciester 'expected' to do next year? What are Pep and Mou 'expected' to achieve in Manchester, will Chelsea be 'expected' to return to the top 4?

    It should make for a fun season if nothing else. :D

    Scottish football wise, I'm hoping for Aberdeen to continue growing as a club and playing well, likewise for Hearts. They both had a good season and if not for some bad patches in the season could have been a lot closer to each other than they ended up. For Celtic, I just want to get back into Europe and not be there merely to compete. I'm looking forward to seeing what Rodgers brings to the club and hopefully we can grace the CL again, otherwise do better in the EL too. Nothing is a given though, and there needs to be a lot of development in the team.
     
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    For just £20 million that is a bargain for Gundogan, it won't a gamble as he has already established himself as a complete midfielder in the Bundesliga.

    Chelsea have reportedly bid £20 million for Rudiger who has been solid filling into Castan's place and potentially could be the best young centre back.
     
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    I suspect no outlet has predicted an 'orgasm' of a season yet, but with the undeniable potential of the season ahead I wouldn't put it past one person trying.

    Anyway, some miles too early predictions, for fun. United and City's current predicament will likely result in a civil war, the winner being whichever team is the least laughable. Tottenham are likely to be there or thereabouts, Arsenal are as ever a good candidate for 4th place, I don't fancy Chelsea's chances under Conte and a new surprise package is likely to come up again, beating Liverpool. And what of Leicester? Well the best they can do is win the league again, because that's the highest they can finish. But actually I have a feeling they'll fight for a Champions League spot till late, but come up short.

    The possible relegation battle is so difficult to call this year that I won't even try to predict a bottom three. One thing's for certain though; Sunderland, under a new manager, are going to come back from, oh I don't know, 15 points back, and survive. Because they can't stop doing that looking at their last few seasons.
     
  9. Dennisch

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    That would be Steve Evans.

    @Liquid.
     
  10. Akmuq

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    Didn't know Michael Owen had an account here. :p
     
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    Ah yes, that new thread feeling!

    A day of new managers today, Monk at Leeds (bad move Garry!) Pearson at Leicester and now Di Matteo at Villa, which has been on the cards since the new people came in a few weeks ago, surprised that Clarke has taken a assistant manager role after being the main boos in the last few years.

    Owen Coyle is also the new Blackburn boss which seems like a good move but a petition was then started to have him sacked!
     
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    So that's 2 Champions League winning managers in the 2nd tier of English football.
     
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    I actually saw a video yesterday where he said the only England player good enough to get into Barcelona's team was John Stones. What is wrong with him?
     
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    To be fair, Stones fits with the Barca style of play and is very similar to Pique. I don't think he's good enough now, but he's certainly not far off, and probably will be good enough if he keep growing to his potential.

    Now that Barcelona are without a right back I guess Clyne and Walker would be able to get into the team, although all signs look to them signing Bellerin.
     
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    Juventus are also looking to sign Vidal who acts as back up RB for Barca but I don't think they will go for Bellerin as he will cost in the region of £30-40 million but getting somebody like Mario Gaspar or Florenzi.

    Barcelona have been rumoured to bid for Daley Blind. Replacement for maybe departing Mascherano?
     
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    Loads of rumours tonight that Arsenal have triggered the release clause in Vardy's contract. I'm trying not to get ahead of myself but the thought of someone like him playing in front of Ozil is exciting.
     
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    Even though he has been exceptional last season but I would rather see the money be invested into either Aubemeyang, Morata or Lacazette.
     
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    Hessenthaler stops interimming and takes over at Orient.

    Meanwhile, at Cardiff, Russell Slade - who had stepped upstairs from manager to head of football - steps out completely after just a month.
     
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    Vardy to Arsenal all but confirmed by ITK Twitter people. Good business for me, less than 20 million is a gamble worth taking. Short term solution but hopefully a solution none the less.
     
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    Does not compute.

    It's a moronic move for all three parties in any case.
     
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    ITK Twitter people are as reliable as the Metro for transfers.
     
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    In the know people with contacts to the club.

    Is it for Arsenal though? 18 million seems decent to me.

    @Akmuq depends on who you follow. it's the same guy who broke the Monreal and Xhaka deal before anyone else.

    Edit: Vardy's wife semi confirming it as well. Never seen a transfer materialize from rumor to done so fast.
     
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    It is quite a lot of money for a 29 year old who has only started to perform last season. Arsenal and Leicester have different play styles so it is quite a risk for all parties.

    Stoke City have been rumoured for a £10 million move for Redmond. A great buy for them if they can get him.
     
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    ... on Twitter.
    It's moronic for Leicester - they'll lose a talisman.
    It's moronic for Vardy - the weight of expectation means that anything other than leading the goalscoring charts as Arsenal march to the title at least and he'll be regarded a failure. Will Arsenal win the title in the face of Guardiola's City, Mourinho's United, the resurrected Chelsea, the stung by failure Spurs (and so on)?
    It's moronic for Arsenal - they're paying through the nose for a 30 year old who's scored an average of 12 goals a season, even including two seasons in the Championship, of the back of a single quite good season.

    It's not the kind of forward thinking you'd associate with Arsenal or Arsene. He's an old guy with a single decent season behind him over a relatively unremarkable career, one that probably has about 3 seasons left in it. How does a Vardy - an old-fashioned number 9 - even fit into Arsenal's system anyway?


    Vardy has nothing to gain (he's already player of the season, Premier League winner and guaranteed for England) and everything to lose (his reputation, primarily). He ought to stay at Leicester for their first Champions League season - and then make his big money, one last colossal payday move to a megabucks club.
     
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    Sources are saying the deal will be done on Monday on the terms that Vardy will now earn 120k a week for 4 years. (He will earn as much as Sanchez). If this happens then I won't be happy as an Arsenal fan, we could of use that money to buy a younger striker who has a more prolific goal scoring record. Fingers cross that it is just fabricated.
     
  27. sems4arsenal

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    I know it's on Twitter but there are 3-4 genuine folks with contacts inside the club that give inside information (a controlled leak sort of speak).

    I agree with all your points but his attributes are very suited to Mesut Ozil, he offers a plan B to Giroud and is probably more efficient in front of goal, Arsenal are still rumored to be looking for another wide forward with Walcott probably leaving, but I still agree it's a very short term plan but might pan useful (Arsene Wenger isn't going to last many more years either way so he can't afford another Project (plus Iwobi is being groomed).

    As for the price, 18 million is nothing to Arsenal really (if they sell walcott they'll get most of it back) plus the amount of wages being freed by players leaving makes it worth the risk, he is 29 getting on 30 but so is Luis Suarez, and him being English makes him expensive by default.

    Would I prefer Higuain or Aubamayang to him, of course but I think it's a better deal than 50 million for Morata.
     
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    Very interesting regarding Vardy potentially moving to Arsenal.

    Did kind of come out of nowhere, seeing a rival in Arsenal sign Vardy rather than someone like a Higuain, Aubamayang or anyone in that ilk, I'll settle with that in fairness.

    Honestly thought if they were looking to bring someone in from Leicester this summer, would've thought it would have been Mahrez. Mind you, I suppose they could still get him if they want to.
     
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    Arsenal need a young-ish and lethal striker to lead the line for the next 5 years+.

    Or "Harry Kane" :lol:
     
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    I think Wenger is doing a Fergie and buying old players that can win him something before he retires in a couple of years and then leave Arsenal in the toilet.

    Mourinho buying Zlatan is similar since he'll be gone in a couple of years.