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Call me crazy, but I think Stenhouse has more talent than Bayne and Biffle combined. Just cruddy conditions of the Roush camp.
 
Suzumiya
Call me crazy, but I think Stenhouse has more talent than Bayne and Biffle combined. Just cruddy conditions of the Roush camp.
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Thing is, Biffle is not exactly a spring chicken (he started NASCAR pretty late IIRC) and Bayne had to go through his condition.
 
To be fair, everyone dismissed Stenhouse Jr. as a dud, or with 'no talent'. You don't win back to back National Series championships by accident...
 
I think Stehnouse has some talent and it's shown at times, he just needs to work on having a car that's in one piece at the end of the race.
 
Roush benched Stenhouse in Nationwide for crashing too much and he came back and won 2 championships, I think he's got the talent to be a Kasey Kahne level driver
 
Except Kasey Kahne managed to win 6 races in a season, more wins than Stenhouse will get in his entire career.
 
Something compelled me to add Jeffery Earnhardt to my fantasy league just before the race started. I have No Idea why. Did nothing but hinder me.



Oh and to answer a question,
ukfan758
Does anyone know why there are two dark sections of pavement on the front half of the pit road but not the other half?
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The pit road is used as a drag strip.
 
Suzumiya
Call me crazy, but I think Stenhouse has more talent than Bayne and Biffle combined. Just cruddy conditions of the Roush camp.
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Suzumiya
To be fair, everyone dismissed Stenhouse Jr. as a dud, or with 'no talent'. You don't win back to back National Series championships by accident...
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Well, after the way he crashed Speed out for championship, came to Nationwide basically wrecking a bunch of cars, sat down then came back to win two championships when Roush had equipment right up there with RCR and JGR only to then resume crashing in cup literally every year since then. That kinda doesn't really leave people full of confidence that he has talent when most of his career in stock car racing has had that much crashing.

As far as Bayne goes, He had solid results with DEI (nobody ever remembers that), did decent with Wood Brothers, had terrible luck with MWR (who at that point were already playing second fiddle when JGR arrived with Toyota), did decent with Roush before his condition and had some good runs before Roush went downhill and just hasn't gotten better the more he's been there. I honest do believe Roush as a whole is holding back Bayne

And Biffle, I'm seriously convinced he's at a point where he won't get any better. I'd say he's the first driver from the early 2000s to retire.
 
Northstar
I think Stehnouse has some talent and it's shown at times, he just needs to work on having a car that's in one piece at the end of the race.
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That's the thing. Just as soon as he starts to show promise, he instantly begins putting cars into the wall shortly thereafter. If he could actually stop doing that, he probably could become the lead driver at Roush in due time. Roush stepping up and seeming to have a competitive package at this point again helps too, but his success will ultimately depend on him not destroying the cars in the first place.
 
Last year there were 12 winners and 4 WC in the chase. The gap between the "haves" and "have nots" is widening. Thats what i took from this race, at one time only 9 lead lap cars. You probably have 25 cars out there with no chance of winning. The exception being a restrictor plate or road race
 
RedTailBoa
Last year there were 12 winners and 4 WC in the chase. The gap between the "haves" and "have nots" is widening.
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12 winners is fairly average. The all time record is 19 from 2001 and before that it was 14 in 2000.

Thats what i took from this race, at one time only 9 lead lap cars.
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That's what happens when you have extremely long green flag periods on a 1.5 mile track.
 
19 winners in 2001. You definitely wont see that anymore. I looked back on RR and some of the winners. Michael Waltrip, Bobby Hamilton, Steve Park, Elliott Sadler and even Robby Gordon who finished 44th in the final standings while running for 3 different teams.
 

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