2016 Verizon IndyCar SeriesOpen Wheel 

  • Thread starter Thread starter VNAF Ace
  • 8,011 comments
  • 439,187 views
Status
Not open for further replies.
Looking at the car from a front view i can see how this could happen aero-3.jpg
 
This is what happens when armchair experts see a crash. It's been this way for years, and IndyCar has no plans on changing the chassis until 2017 at the earliest. Everyone's bringing up Dan Wheldon, an accident caused by driver error on a unsuitable track, to the Indianapolis 500, where these cars spent so much testing. These types of crashes happen essentially every year. What are they to do? Cancel the biggest race of the season and kill the series entirely? Or give everyone the horrible Lotus engines so they'll never be fast enough because 500 miles won't happen. Grow a pair of balls and let the series do what they did in 1996, 2003, 2006, and 2011 and adjust. No one has died in the DW12, and asides from Hinch, who suffered a mechanical failure, all the other drivers that crashed not only returned to the track, but are now in a better position than they were. IndyCar, to this point, has done it's job appropriately and secured the safety of the drivers from an aero standpoint. The suspension failure was a unique incident that I'm sure is being combed through. Have a bit of common sense and patience and stop complaining that the series isn't as liberally stale as NASCAR has become. They've stood out for a reason, and those that follow it through every race and every season are behind that. They've neutralized the aero kits to the best they can do right now. Adding floor pieces is not happening because of the demand that Dallara would have to supply now. We're looking at this race going forward, not looking backwards at an old car.
 
Does Indycar by chance do the F1 style crash tests? If not they need to so that stuff doesn't get into the cockpits.
Its not the first time that's happened Tony Kanaan said it happened to him (not the into the thigh part) in Japan in 2003 which also had the Tony Renna crash in testing.
 
The sad thing about Hinch's crash is that it's happened after these blowovers, and it's made a bad situation worse, when it isn't really related. Although heavy, it was a typical crash really, and the fact that it blew onto its side was more to do with that the side of the car had been ripped off.

The crashes to be concerned about are the Castroneves, Newgarten and Carpenter ones, as they were not typical.

Of course we don't want to see anyone hurt, but the Hinchcliffe crash was nothing to worry about (unless you build Honda suspension)

It's a Chevy problem, but all teams and manufacturers need to come up with a solution. Unlike the 2005 USGP, the organisers and teams have a week to come up with a solution, not 2 days.

Maybe the IndyCar series should visit another Super-Speedway with similar spec aero to Indy earlier, so problems can be found there before they reach the 500.
 
An LMP is a pretty rubbish example when a wishbone went through an ORECA drivers leg at baltimore other year.

There us too much scaremongering here. Regardless of speed, physics are going to win at a certain velocity regardless.
 
Yeah nothing in hinch's crash seemed out of wack safety wise.

If it went in reverse and flipped then i would of been more worried(then it wouldn't just be chevy and it was done in race trim).
 
An LMP is a pretty rubbish example when a wishbone went through an ORECA drivers leg at baltimore other year.

There us too much scaremongering here. Regardless of speed, physics are going to win at a certain velocity regardless.
I'm referring to the bodywork...because these cars are just fenders away from looking like that HPD...and that'd be awesome. But seriously I hope Dallara allows or installs the pod design from the Indy Lights car on these, the delta shape is hopeless in the first place.
 
The Panoz DP01 had a Zanardi bar, wondering if the DW12 has one?
 
228 mph at contact with a 125g hit and injuries to both legs. http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/116939-indy-500-hinchcliffe-saved-from-serious-injuries

Link to the chassis upgrades in 2014. http://www.sbnation.com/2013/12/21/5234332/changes-indycar-chassis-2014-season

and chassis technical regulations. http://www.indycar.com/Fan-Info/INDYCAR-101/2015-Rulebook/Chp14-TechSpecifications

The Holmatro safety team are the gold standard of the racing world.👍👍
Holmatro saved his life. Holmatro defiantly has my praises. 👍
 
After watching the incident again, i'm actually amazed he is alive, that impact would basically be Death in any other Chassis Indy has used before hand the speed kind of gets forgotten due to the Nature of the oval but that was the equalivent of an F1 driver crashing into a barrier after having a brake failure on the Monza Start/Finish straight.

Scary stuff.
 
This may not mean much, but reading through the IndyCar rules on who can replace a driver for the Indy 500, the replacement driver at this point in the week will have to be someone that competed in Indy from 2013-2014. Excluding drivers that did the double, here's a list of easy eligible drivers.
E.J. Viso
Ryan Briscoe
Michel Jourdain Jr.
Ana Beatriz
Katherine Legge
Buddy Lazier
Mikhail Aleshin
Martin Plowman
SPM could also pull from their Indy Lights squad, but with time running out as it is, it would be a stretch. Guesses?
 
This may not mean much, but reading through the IndyCar rules on who can replace a driver for the Indy 500, the replacement driver at this point in the week will have to be someone that competed in Indy from 2013-2014. Excluding drivers that did the double, here's a list of easy eligible drivers.
E.J. Viso
Ryan Briscoe
Michel Jourdain Jr.
Ana Beatriz
Katherine Legge
Buddy Lazier
Mikhail Aleshin
Martin Plowman
SPM could also pull from their Indy Lights squad, but with time running out as it is, it would be a stretch. Guesses?
I'd say Buddy Lazier, he was in qualifying for crying out loud. But other than that...hmm...I'd say Katherine Legge if she's in the country.
 
I'd say Buddy Lazier, he was in qualifying for crying out loud. But other than that...hmm...I'd say Katherine Legge if she's in the country.
Legge was at Indy for qualifying at least. My problem with Lazier getting in is that, although he was in qualifying, a top 20 for him would be a blessing.
 
This may not mean much, but reading through the IndyCar rules on who can replace a driver for the Indy 500, the replacement driver at this point in the week will have to be someone that competed in Indy from 2013-2014. Excluding drivers that did the double, here's a list of easy eligible drivers.
E.J. Viso
Ryan Briscoe
Michel Jourdain Jr.
Ana Beatriz
Katherine Legge
Buddy Lazier
Mikhail Aleshin
Martin Plowman
SPM could also pull from their Indy Lights squad, but with time running out as it is, it would be a stretch. Guesses?

According to Racer, Briscoe, Legge and Vautier are preferred, but Vautier is signed up for a race in England. Briscoe's current employer is Chevy, but they may or may not cut him a break to shoe the Honda. Legge's chances look good.

For the remainder of the season, they are looking at Justin Wilson or Conor Daly to sub for the injured Hinchcliffe.
 
Briscoe's always been good at Indy so I can go for that choice. If Wilson gets the drive for the rest of the season, that's relatively good news for SdS.
 
Boston is going to be the finale in 2016. Track layout looks interesting, and it's some place Indy's never been before. Let's hope it goes well.
Briscoe is doing his refresher today. Apparently there are rules based on how much drivers competed the year before, so technically no one I listed could have done it. And Schmidt is saying Hinch will be back before season's out.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back