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This has to be the most Storybook ending I've ever scene. Everything just fell his way. Congrats to Castroneves. Even if he does not win this year's championship, he's already a champion.

Win.

I'm very angry at Mario Moraes for taking out Marco Andretti in the 1st turn on the 1st lap. I hope KV Racing Technology fires Moraes and runs Paul Tracy full-time instead (especially since PT finished 9th today).

Me too, that was just pathetic.

Don't forget about Townsend Bell, he finished 4th, ahead of PT, with less seat time, I find that impressive.

Also, don't forget that KV is also fielding a car for Tracy in both Canadian races later this year, Edmonton & Toronto.
 
That was probably the worst Indy 500 I've seen since Juan Montoya stunk it up in 2000

There was no passing except on restarts, and the crewmen decided the race with pitstop speed, not the drivers on the track. They need to look into the cars and make them better handling in turbulence for next year.

Not to mention there was a yellow every 20 laps and zero green flag pit stops. The yellow flag for one of the cars brushing the wall was rediculous

And Marco Andretti deserved that for what he did last year. I found it very funny that Marco Andretti called Moraes a kid. A kid calling another kid a kid.

Moraes didn't see him, but Marco should have backed out of it
 
That was probably the worst Indy 500 I've seen since Juan Montoya stunk it up in 2000

There was no passing except on restarts, and the crewmen decided the race with pitstop speed, not the drivers on the track. They need to look into the cars and make them better handling in turbulence for next year.

Not to mention there was a yellow every 20 laps and zero green flag pit stops. The yellow flag for one of the cars brushing the wall was rediculous

And Marco Andretti deserved that for what he did last year. I found it very funny that Marco Andretti called Moraes a kid. A kid calling another kid a kid.

Moraes didn't see him, but Marco should have backed out of it

Dixon stunk it up epically last year, but you're right there really weren't that many battles besides the ones on the restarts.
 
I picked Helio Castroneves to win the Indy 500... and I was right! The man seems basically unchanged. Almost as if he had absolutely no rust from not being on the track and racing apart from the court deal. I cheered on Danica Patrick as well. And my goodness, she posted her best finish of 3rd. Helio was too much down the stretch, and I think Danica did most of her dirty work in the pits. This, excluding the four positions she lost in the pits. Most of you know me... I've never given up on Danica. She did a great job. Also, congratulations to Roger Penske on getting his 15th Indy 500 victory.

I usually ask for winners and losers. Who do you nominate as your winners and losers from this year's Indy 500? I noted Helio and Danica, but I also want to honor Milka Duno and Sarah Fisher for completing the race. They were nowhere in contention, but both of these ladies did the toughest thing to do besides win- finish. Last year, Sarah Fisher got knocked out in a crash that took out Tony Kannan. This year, Sarah managed to finish on the lead lap by finishing in 17th. As for Milka Duno, I hand her my congratulations on finishing the race (albeit being the only car one lap down). Now if I had to nominate a loser, Ryan Briscoe would probably be my only real loser. He was on pace early, then slid back in the pack to never contend again.

Well, name your winners and losers from this race. Now some off-topic stuff... I thought the Boost Mobile commercial featuring Danica and her pit crew was ludricrous! It was funny, but it's not right putting guys 30 or older in race queen (or the American equivalent) like outfits!
 
Finally got to finish my recording; and what a race for HC! It was a very emotional victory, to say the least.

Congrats to him and Patrick who did very, very well despite drooping back to 11th place, I believe. The place 3rd after that was very well done.
 
Wow, I was just watching the highlight on the news and first I have to say our sportscaster is an idiot(I think he mis-pronounced every name except Danika Patrick). Second that was one bad crash at the end.
 
Those 2 were the scariest crashes I've seen. Tony's was just so sudden the first time into the wall and the the second time was brutal.
 
Proven winner
A.J. Foyt Enterprises has hired Paul Tracy to replace the injured Vitor Meira for the Milwaukee 225! PT will be driving the #14 ABC Supply Dallara-Honda IndyCar this weekend! I'm happy as a PT fan, but I hope Vitor gets well soon!
 
...and to think Paul Tracy called the Indy cars as "crap wagons" a few years ago. Now, that's all there is (he could try F1)! It's great to see Paul Tracy make such a return. Too bad it comes in taking over for Vitor Meira. This HAS to be good news to see Paul Tracy whether you like him or not.
 
Congratulations to Castroneves for his win and I cant wait to see Paul Tracy on the track this weekend. Now for the big news

Tony George Ousted From IMS

"The controversial, ground-breaking, tumultuous 20-year reign of Tony George at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway is over. SPEEDtv.com has learned George was voted out of power in a Tuesday night board meeting in Indianapolis. A source close to the situation confirmed that the 49-year-old grandson of Tony Hulman would no longer be CEO of the Speedway after a vote of the IMS board of directors which includes mother Mari, sisters Josie, Nancy and Kathy, attorney Jack Snyder and George."

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-tony-george-ousted-from-ims/

I didnt see this coming three days after the Indy 500!
 
Congratulations to Castroneves for his win and I cant wait to see Paul Tracy on the track this weekend. Now for the big news

Tony George Ousted From IMS

"The controversial, ground-breaking, tumultuous 20-year reign of Tony George at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway is over. SPEEDtv.com has learned George was voted out of power in a Tuesday night board meeting in Indianapolis. A source close to the situation confirmed that the 49-year-old grandson of Tony Hulman would no longer be CEO of the Speedway after a vote of the IMS board of directors which includes mother Mari, sisters Josie, Nancy and Kathy, attorney Jack Snyder and George."

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-tony-george-ousted-from-ims/

I didnt see this coming three days after the Indy 500!

Hmmmm... maybe we'll see F1 return to Indy soon, although one might argue it's too late, and that the majority of the F1 fan base in North America has all but diminished.

While SpeedTV does an excellent job covering F1, with live coverage of the practice sessions, qualifying and races for every event as well as the superb show, Formula One Debrief, which spends an hour on each race showing and commenting on all the highlights from the previous race weekend, as well as the syndicated show Formula One Preview, which airs before each race.

However, there is no longer ANY broadcast network coverage of any F1 any longer here in the States. They didn't even show let alone mention the Monaco GP, and rarely even mention news about F1 in any sports news coverage other than on SpeedTV.

Unless something changes, interest and media coverage of F1 in the States is going to continue to deteriorate, much as it has with the interest and media coverage of the WRC in the States... which has gotten so bad that even SpeedTV barely mentions WRC results with maybe about 15 seconds of coverage for each event. :eek:
 
I'm not really all that familiar with the whole Tony George situation. Why has he been ousted, has he not been doing a good job at Indianapolis MS?
 
However, there is no longer ANY broadcast network coverage of any F1 any longer here in the States. They didn't even show let alone mention the Monaco GP, and rarely even mention news about F1 in any sports news coverage other than on SpeedTV

Fox Sports will be broadcasting some of the F1 races this year, like they always do in the mid season. The Turkish Grand Prix is one i'm sure of.
 
I'm not really all that familiar with the whole Tony George situation. Why has he been ousted, has he not been doing a good job at Indianapolis MS?

Tony George, more than any other figure in American Motorsports, contributed to the decline of the popularity of open wheel competition in the US. As with any dispute, there were many others who shoulder at least part of the blame, and Tony George did have some valid points, but in essence, what happened was this:

The great speedway schism
For those of you can't remember, what happened was this:

In the early 1990s, the Indy 500 was king while CART, Championship Auto Racing Teams, was America's premier open-wheel sanctioning body, second only to Formula One in worldwide popularity. CART was run by a board of team owners, including living legends Roger Penske, Pat Patrick, Bobby Rahal and Paul Newman. Also on the board, but reduced to a figurehead position, was Tony George, owner of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. George became fed up with what he deemed "philosophical differences" between himself and the sanctioning body, differences that he stated publicly were driving the sport away from its American-born, American-bred oval roots, though many believe his motives had much more to do with money and power than motorsports dogma.

"Regardless of what you believe, the system was broken," said John Bickford, Gordon's stepfather and longtime business manager. "Jeff and I went door to door to all of the CART teams in the early 1990s with his impeccable sprint car résumé and everyone's response was, 'How much money can you bring?' Well, we didn't have the money, so we had the doors slammed in our faces. Drivers with far less talent than Jeff were getting rides because they came with financial backing we simply couldn't compete with. So we went to NASCAR, where talent was still the most important factor in getting a ride. I'd say that's worked out, wouldn't you?"

In 1995, inspired in no small part by the fact that Gordon had slipped through the cracks, George announced that he was forming the Indy Racing League, his own more affordable open-wheel series, centered on the Indy 500 and designed to compete with and ultimately destroy CART.

The CART board didn't budge.

The result was devastating on both sides, splitting an already leaky pool of sponsors and equipment down the middle. CART initially took the biggest names -- including Al Unser Jr. and Michael Andretti -- while the IRL retained the biggest race -- the Indy 500 -- and arranged a ride for the driver widely considered to be the next Gordon, one Mr. Tony Stewart.

CART, eventually renamed Champ Car in 2004, staged its own Memorial Day race to compete with the Indy 500 head-to-head, titling it the U.S. 500 and dragging the once-prestigious Vanderbilt Cup out of mothballs, carried in the white-gloved hands of Mario Andretti. A star-studded field took the green flag at Michigan and then proceeded to wreck itself into an embarrassing oblivion.
Source, Ryan McGee.

Over time, sponsors and fans left open wheel and headed to Nascar. CART went broke and then merged back with the IRL. Tony George "won" the open wheel war, but ultimately destroyed the sport in the process.

The linked article is definitely worth a read. There are some disturbing parallels to the current state of Formula 1.
 
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Wow! That's massive! I'm not usually the card-carrying member of the Tony George fan club, but I've eased up on him. I know I've talked about how I hated that the Formula 1 United States GP was at Indianapolis Motor Speedway rather than at tracks like Miller Motorsports Park, Barber Motorsports Park, or a little track called... Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca. Then I remember Tony George fielding his own team in one of his own series. But let me tell you something... this is huge! This is about as huge a moment as Richard Nixon resigning from the U.S. Presidency. ...or maybe even Bill Clinton's deal.

So what's your call on this whole deal: a good day in American motorsports, or a dark day in American motorsports?
 
2009 Indianapolis 500 Race Results
Congratulations to Helio Castroneves for winning the 2009 Indianapolis 500.

I'm very angry at Mario Moraes for taking out Marco Andretti in the 1st turn on the 1st lap. I hope KV Racing Technology fires Moraes and runs Paul Tracy full-time instead (especially since PT finished 9th today).

I'd give that a 66.66/33.33 percent split for fault. Marco should have known not to trust an overexhuberant rookie. Raphel Matos was driving pretty stupid too when he took out Miera. I don't much care for either one of 'em. Wasn't Matos the one who tried that stupid pass at St. Pete and took Danica with him? Sad that guys like them have rides when talent like PT and Will Power struggle. Miera needs to come back, finish off the season and retire. His record proves it.

I was blown away by Kannan's car breaking and going into the wall like that. Thanks to all those who've stepped up to make the cars and tracks safer.

Nice Job Helio!

It's amazing how all the strategies, luck, and incidents play out at Indy. The end rarely looks anything like the halfway point.

Girls:
Nice strong finish Danica. (she should have Penske or Ganassi equipment)
Sarah finished on the lead lap. I'd hoped for a better finish for "The Hardest Working Woman in the IRL"
Milka finished and didn't obviously wreck anyone. Though, didn't Graham Rahal mention he was going around her when he (as Scott Goodyear says) "became a passenger" into the wall?


The whole Tony George thing is just a wait and see thing for now. The family is probably just upset about money. Hell, everybody is upset about money in this economy. I am.

CART, eventually renamed Champ Car in 2004, staged its own Memorial Day race to compete with the Indy 500 head-to-head, titling it the U.S. 500 and dragging the once-prestigious Vanderbilt Cup out of mothballs, carried in the white-gloved hands of Mario Andretti. A star-studded field took the green flag at Michigan and then proceeded to wreck itself into an embarrassing oblivion.

I was at that race, that wreck happened right in front of us. So confusing with all that stuff flying around and not seeing how it started. Lots of fans were there in solidarity with the teams from CART. Zanardi was electrifying, and Vasser Won. What blew me away was watching the cars blast down that backstretch, they were probably hitting close to 240.
 
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Wow, what a huge turn of events. What else is gonna happen?
 
As I mentioned, I congratulated Danica Patrick and Milka Duno on their respective Myspace pages. I wonder what results I would have gotten if I did a "FACT OR FICTION?" about Danica Patrick, Sarah Fisher, and Milka Duno all finishing. Most would probably say that Milka would DNF. She quietly finished a lap down, but still finished the race. That in itself is an accomplishment for the Venezuelan Milka Duno.

Speaking of Danica, this weekend's race is in her native Wisconsin at the Milwaukee Mile. Considering the damage Helio Castroneves has done, it's almost foolish to bet against him at this point.
 
Wow, so Indycar is dying. And to think I said this before the merger. Wonder what that one guy who laughed at my comment is gonna say now.
 
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Ratings lowest since 1986

Indycar actually lost fans after the merger with the 2009 Indy500 getting TV rating of 3.9. The series wont last for long if this keeps up.

I usually watch the 500, but sometimes it's quite an imposition to take 4 hours out of the middle of a busy holiday weekend to watch. I watched one several years back on a portable TV while fishing in a boat. All racing has been losing TV time share. I'm guessing that's why the speed channel would rather run old reruns of "Pimp My Ride" than any actual racing. The series was strong back in the days before TV contracts, it will survive.
 
Does that include the number of watchers over the net? Sure beats TV watching: Main feed plus four onboards and six live telemetry readouts on the screen. Admittedly, though, the race itself was dull...
 
Look at it this way...

Ten years ago, I was in love with (then) CART. I still watched (then) Indy Racing League action. That's even including Greg Ray making no deal about championships, until eventually winning the title in 1999. Fast forward to when Champ Car was transitioning from its 1999 glory to the "Bridgestone Presents the Champ Car World Series Powered by Ford." Not many people were into this newer CCWS, though I did see some races. I then got into the Indy Racing League for one reason- watching Sarah Fisher in 2002 and 2003. As Champ Car was dying, I kept watching Champ Car, though I was watching the IRL more. And in 2005, I've really watched the IndyCar Series to follow Danica Patrick. Last year was the unification of Champ Car and Indy Car.

The way I look at it, now that both series are together again, not much a big deal is made about the quality of racing and such. It's like Christmas- you get all excited and happy at the coming of Christmas. Then when Christmas is over after getting fully excited... it's over too quickly. Maybe this series gets better in the coming months and years, but this is only the first full year Champ Car and Indy Car are together. Give it about two more years and we'll see if any positive progress is made. More drivers and more races will probably help. If anything, I still think you have to bring along some of the cool aspects of the former Champ Car to the IndyCar Series to go to that next level.

Most of you know that I'm not about ratings, but I'm hopeful this series will keep providing great ratings unless people just stop caring about this series.
 
Right now I think the IndyCar Series' only saving grace is to bring in the new engine manufacturers next year to at least start bringing back the competition that made CART and the original IRL so good, then in 2011 bring in the new chassis' in time for the 100th Indy 500.
 
The 2011 Indy 500 will be 100 years since the first, but isn't that going to be the 95th Indy 500 rather than the 100th?



Good luck to all drivers this weekend at the Milwaukee Mile. Helio Castroneves is a trendy pick, but whom else can steal the show? Of course, I always want to see Wisconsin's own, Danica Patrick, put up a great effort in her native state.
 
The 2011 Indy 500 will be 100 years since the first, but isn't that going to be the 95th Indy 500 rather than the 100th?

Oops...

Either way a new chassis for the indycar series is long overdue.
 
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