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Why are you posting pictures of last years cars with the new wings and livery?

Mercedes and Redbull are new cars.
 
Tired Tyres
Why are you posting pictures of last years cars with the new wings and livery?

Mercedes and Redbull are new cars.
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The only ones posted that aren't new are the Haas and Williams, though the new Haas has been shown. What other cars are last year's car? Unless you're just joking around.
 
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So far out of all the cars revealed, Ferrari wins it for me. Its probably the cleanest looking so far. The black and red looks way better than the old white and red they were going with for a while.
 
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Williams 2019 car has been released

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This livery looks (for lack of a better word) ..... cheap.

Bit useless to discuss the cars now though, much better when actual testing begins.
 
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Why do they always try to force us to believe the car is a certain shape by cutting off areas with black? We know they'
TheElbows
Let's be honest...the livery better matches their performance. I'd rather see that than a Martini-liveried car droning around at the tail end of the field.
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Same idea for McLaren?
 
Yep, McLaren's in the same boat. At least they're just sporting "their" colour instead of a famous brand logo/livery.
 
The Ferrari looks a cleaned up development of the previous car, tho' I can't say anything positive about the paint. I expect it will be in the picture for 2nd place.
 
Reasonably impressive testing times from Barcelona for Ferrari and McLaren(!), of all things.

1 Vettel (Ferrari), 1m18.161s (169 laps)
2 Sainz (McLaren), 1m18.558s (119)
3 Grosjean (Haas), 1m19.159s (65)
4 Verstappen (Red Bull), 1m19.426s (128)
5 Raikkonen (Alfa Romeo), 1m19.462s (114)
6 Kvyat (Toro Rosso), 1m19.464s (77)
7 Perez (Racing Point), 1m19.944s (30)
8 Bottas (Mercedes), 1m20.127s (69)
9 Hamilton (Mercedes, 1m20.135s (81)
10 Hulkenberg (Renault), 1m20.980s (65)
11 Ricciardo (Renault), 1m20.983s (44)

Williams is not expected to run until mid day Wednesday, earliest.
 
Dotini
Reasonably impressive testing times from Barcelona for Ferrari and McLaren(!), of all things.

1 Vettel (Ferrari), 1m18.161s (169 laps)
2 Sainz (McLaren), 1m18.558s (119)
3 Grosjean (Haas), 1m19.159s (65)
4 Verstappen (Red Bull), 1m19.426s (128)
5 Raikkonen (Alfa Romeo), 1m19.462s (114)
6 Kvyat (Toro Rosso), 1m19.464s (77)
7 Perez (Racing Point), 1m19.944s (30)
8 Bottas (Mercedes), 1m20.127s (69)
9 Hamilton (Mercedes, 1m20.135s (81)
10 Hulkenberg (Renault), 1m20.980s (65)
11 Ricciardo (Renault), 1m20.983s (44)

Williams is not expected to run until mid day Wednesday, earliest.
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First day, everyone is running a different program and even second and third day will probably not yield anything too much either.

DesertPenguin
It's nice to see that Red Bull-Honda were able to do so many laps
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What do you mean? Why wouldn't they?
 
He's probably referencing that the Honda engine was hugely unreliable last year as well (though oddly less reported). While it didn't blow up too often mid-race, they went through a massive number of components and engines.
 
TheElbows
He's probably referencing that the Honda engine was hugely unreliable last year as well (though oddly less reported). While it didn't blow up too often mid-race, they went through a massive number of components and engines.
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They weren't unreliable, Honda not wanting to have another McLaren often would replace an engine if there was an issue in practice. After the Summer break they were told to frequently replace engines and increase the power and reliability if not already done, in place of RBR using them for this season. Honda 2017 blowing up every weekend and having no choice to swap components vs. Honda 2018 being told to do so out of choice not necessity are two different things and not indicative of "reliability issues."
 
That's definitely not the sense I got from a couple of sources indicating they went through an absolute pile of pieces - something like three times as many components as any other team or something quite extreme. If they're just being precautious, that's a lot of precaution! :D
 
TheElbows
That's definitely not the sense I got from a couple of sources indicating they went through an absolute pile of pieces - something like three times as many components as any other team or something quite extreme. If they're just being precautious, that's a lot of precaution! :D
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To be fair, if they screw up this season with Red Bull then Honda is going to lose a huge amount of credibility, so I wouldn't blame them for scrutinizing every part they can while they had time to make sure everything is in order.
 
TheElbows
He's probably referencing that the Honda engine was hugely unreliable last year as well (though oddly less reported).
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No, it wasn't, and one of the failures it did suffer was a product of a rushed rebuild after this. Honda are still late developers compared to the other teams and had three distinct specs last year, choosing to pool "spares" when qualifying was bad. The pool size isn't an accurate indicator of reliability and on-track they were far stronger across race distances than Renault.
 
TheElbows
That's definitely not the sense I got from a couple of sources indicating they went through an absolute pile of pieces - something like three times as many components as any other team or something quite extreme. If they're just being precautious, that's a lot of precaution! :D
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And again your "sense" and these supposed sources, and then the reality of what was said and done last season are two different things. Honda again opted to do as RB wanted which was take extra components to further ensure data, improvement and reliability going into this season. It was not a factor of being unreliable but rather better to be safe than sorry. There has been plenty said by Honda and RBR since January that already indicates those gains made because of how 2018 was handled.
 
Notice the angle of the top wishbones and drive shafts. Newey has compromised rear suspension geometry, raised the center of gravity and increased angularity, all on the altar of improved aero flow over the diffuser. It will be interesting to see how this works out. Heh, heh, heh.

Rear Suspension
 
Dotini
Notice the angle of the top wishbones and drive shafts. Newey has compromised rear suspension geometry, raised the center of gravity and increased angularity, all on the altar of improved aero flow over the diffuser. It will be interesting to see how this works out. Heh, heh, heh.

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That's interesting! We know the RBR likes its arse in the air and that it flattens out at speed, I guess Newey's pushing that idea as far as he can for the mid-speed corner gains.
 

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