2021 FIA Series Race Discussion

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Seth_Logan
Sooo... anybody in say; Australia already find out what the new update actually means:

- Adjustments to the fuel consumption ratio of Gr.3 / Gr.4 cars.

More or less fuel consumption for all or a mix, good for some, bad for others?

Do we now all have to stop at Le Mans or only BMW (I believe that car was not fuel efficient, no?)
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I will be running a sim later as if fuel consumption is up a stop may be required and then it will be both hard & medium tyres for the race and not a non-stopper on hard only. New strategy to the races if it is an increase in fuel whereas if its a decrease lots more no stop racing so I would expect there trying to add to it rather than take away.
 
Took my Jaaaaaaag out for some time trial laps around Le Sarthe last night to see if I can find the track limits and shave some time off to try catch up to the aliens posting 3:51/52 laps! Before this, my best lap was a 4:03, so some serious work was to be done.
And it turns out you can cut some corners quite massively! So I managed to bring that time down to a 3:58, finding the speed-carrying corners and learning where you can't run wide!
Super inconsistent though. I ran 7 laps and only one lap had two best sectors, the rest were all on different laps! I was happy with the optimal time being a 3:56 though, that would be promising if I could string it all together in a single lap!
 
I did a run for tomorrows Manufactures race using same lobby I saved from the other day and in the Porsche the car used less fuel,

7 laps on mediums including out lap all at pace and I had .9 laps more fuel that the same test 2 days ago so it looks like cars may be using less fuel and I guess as we didn't get a list this is applied to all Gr.3 & 4 cars. I had only .9 of a lap left in the first test 2 days ago.

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ii_Biggles_ii
I did a run for tomorrows Manufactures race using same lobby I saved from the other day and in the Porsche the car used less fuel,

7 laps on mediums including out lap all at pace and I had .9 laps more fuel that the same test 2 days ago so it looks like cars may be using less fuel and I guess as we didn't get a list this is applied to all Gr.3 & 4 cars. I had only .9 of a lap left in the first test 2 days ago.

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If that is the case, being a BoP, there will be cars that will use more fuel too to balance it out.
 
RacingGrandpa
I like that idea but you guys run so early....
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Well if we did set something like this up then the timings would obviously have to be done so as many of us could make it as possible.

In the end it looks like I can't make it now tonight. I have a Zoom course to deal with and thought I could sneak on before but looking at the timings I misjudged when it was on. Not free until 9pm now so will look for a later lobby.
 
ii_Biggles_ii
I did a run for tomorrows Manufactures race using same lobby I saved from the other day and in the Porsche the car used less fuel,

7 laps on mediums including out lap all at pace and I had .9 laps more fuel that the same test 2 days ago so it looks like cars may be using less fuel and I guess as we didn't get a list this is applied to all Gr.3 & 4 cars. I had only .9 of a lap left in the first test 2 days ago.

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If that is the case I'm saying: "too bad" because from the limited testing I did prior to the series I had the feeling R5 Tokyo could have been an interesting strategic affair between one stop and fuel save/draft and 2 stops and racing... Hope that is still the case actually. I was/am really looking forward to that race as the setup seemed different from what we normally get.
 
xxPinkyKissxx
If that is the case, being a BoP, there will be cars that will use more fuel too to balance it out.
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I think if it was applied differently across the cars then we would have got a list rather than a 1 line

"Adjustments to the fuel consumption ratio of Gr.3 / Gr.4 cars."

maybe a list may follow but I would think it's applied the same to all cars and to apply it differently to all cars would be way too big an update in the game overall at this point in its development life.
 
OJBrit
Well if we did set something like this up then the timings would obviously have to be done so as many of us could make it as possible.

In the end it looks like I can't make it now tonight. I have a Zoom course to deal with and thought I could sneak on before but looking at the timings I misjudged when it was on. Not free until 9pm now so will look for a later lobby.
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Or just have more time slots. We'll sort that out when we get there. First thing's first: people need to join. If we can make an inventory on wishes/motivation, we can try to accommodate people. I'll start.


My motivation/wishes to join:

* (for now) I make use of the playstation located in my son's room. Can't play while he is sleeping, hence the need for early hours

* There is an abundance of races 1-2 days prior to the actual one that is next in line. It will not be a problem to jump in one of those but I have a wish to be able to drive rounds that are not yet up in order (for example Tokyo in R6).

This has to do with the fact that I'm not driving all rounds, but can't set a comparible time trail until that round is up and I can take note of my friends/all times. And with little to no races available so far ahead of schedule I can't race people to get an idea on race strategy and total driving times (when driving against people).

* I want to race people I know and make friends that will lead to private label races in the future. The more I meet people here and in practice sessions, the more likely that is going to happen.

* EDIT: there is a serious amount of time constraints. Forgot that. During series I can manage a hour a day on GT Sport. But really not much more.

That's it really. Feel free to add and let's get something going!

Cheers,

Seth
 
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I tend to want to focus on the upcoming round as the others would only offer a distraction.
But perhaps a Sunday afternoon would offer a good chance for me to test other rounds.
I am working during the day so I only have 2 windows of opportunity for test lobbies.
17:30ish to 19:00ish. And 21:30ish onwards.
 
Seth_Logan
Or just have more time slots. We'll sort that out when we get there. First thing's first: people need to join. If we can make an inventory on wishes/motivation, we can try to accommodate people. I'll start.


My motivation/wishes to join:

* (for now) I make use of the playstation located in my son's room. Can't play while he is sleeping, hence the need for early hours

* There is an abundance of races 1-2 days prior to the actual one that is next in line. It will not be a problem to jump in one of those but I have a wish to be able to drive rounds that are not yet up in order (for example Tokyo in R6).

This has to do with the fact that I'm not driving all rounds, but can't set a comparible time trail until that round is up and I can take note of my friends/all times. And with little to no races available so far ahead of schedule I can't race people to get an idea on race strategy and total driving times (when driving against people).

* I want to race people I know and make friends that will lead to private label races in the future. The more I meet people here and in practice sessions, the more likely that is going to happen.

* EDIT: there is a serious amount of time constraints. Forgot that. During series I can manage an hour a day on GT Sport. But really not much more.

That's it really. Feel free to add and let's get something going!

Cheers,

Seth
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Great idea.

Just expressing my own interest in joining some of these. I won't volunteer any time requests, if there happens to be a practice lobby at a time that suits me I'll join but won't be devastated if I can't.

It would be cool to race more often alongside familiar names, albeit in a more casual setting. There should also be a great benefit to comparing yourself against similar or better drivers in that less formal environment.

Might I just suggest that if anyone does host a lobby to provide the details in here? I don't have a ton of folks on here friended, so would be good to see when a room is available.
 
Following a test lobby with @RX8 Racer, I can confirm that I was able to get the WRX to run the full distance with a whopping 20% of fuel remaining (1.7 laps). Also took the chance to try a 6M-1H strategy, but with the extra wait times ended up at least eleven seconds slower than my initial practice run on 7H.

WRX handles like a prototype through the first and final sectors, but is far from the ideal car on straights. Economy still seems to be one of its other strong points, however.
 
Does anyone know if the fuel for the Vantage changed? I was finishing with 0.3 of a lap remaining before the update. I fear it might have copped a sneaky nerf.
 
D_Dragline
Does anyone know if the fuel for the Vantage changed? I was finishing with 0.3 of a lap remaining before the update. I fear it might have copped a sneaky nerf.
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My practice race per update left me with 10%/.8 laps left, with very minimal fuel saving. I was only really cutting off 4th and 5th at about 90-95%, and that was without any draft in a solo run. 167435F9-DCCC-4EC0-86AF-2176930AC1A2.jpeg
 
Pennyb12000
I am really considering going for this strategy, despite the pit loss time, I am woeful on this circuit.
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If you don't mind me asking. What manufacturer are you with? The tyre wear doesn't seem so bad, compared to the 25 seconds pit loss.

Even with tyre wear, it would be really challenging to make up much/any time after your pit.
 
crusselz
If you don't mind me asking. What manufacturer are you with? The tyre wear doesn't seem so bad, compared to the 25 seconds pit loss.

Even with tyre wear, it would be really challenging to make up much/any time after your pit.
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having just spent a bit of time in a practice lobby, assuming they had the correct settings, I will stick with the RH. Seems six laps on mediums is very do-able, but not worth the loss in the pit. I am with Porsche this season.
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Seth_Logan
If that is the case I'm saying: "too bad" because from the limited testing I did prior to the series I had the feeling R5 Tokyo could have been an interesting strategic affair between one stop and fuel save/draft and 2 stops and racing... Hope that is still the case actually. I was/am really looking forward to that race as the setup seemed different from what we normally get.
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I don't see the strategy for Tokyo changing too much. I tested it a few weeks ago and I was barely getting to the halfway point by driving like an absolute tortoise. The fuel consumption changes seem to be less than a lap's worth, so some might be able to push slightly harder, and others might have to save slightly more, but I still think everyone will struggle to get to halfway on fuel. You'd need to be roughly 2 seconds quicker per lap for the flat-out strategy to work. Even driving like a turtle, I don't think I was going quite slow enough each lap for a flat-out 2-stopper to have been worth considering.
 
Pennyb12000
having just spent a bit of time in a practice lobby, assuming they had the correct settings, I will stick with the RH. Seems six laps on mediums is very do-able, but not worth the loss in the pit. I am with Porsche this season.
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I too drive for Porsche this year and I didn't notice any significant changes from practice yesterday in terms of fuel consumption. In my practice against the AI, the Ford GT stopped for fuel as well as the Huracán. Whether thats different from yesterday, I can't remember. (Granted my time is slow at a 29:09.194)

I might try a practice run of 6M/1H just to see what it does time wise, but I can't see where thats going to be of any practicality for me. EDIT: Predictable result was predictable, 29:38.240. I'm going #TeamNoStop.

*gets on soapbox*

As for PD's tweaking and nerfing of things mid-season, yes i know that in the real world the FIA and F1 make constant adjustments and rule changes. But when I am locked into a Manufacturer in a virtual setting for 6 months, I don't think its fair to the people that get Nerf'd. Yes, I know the Mclaren/BMW does 177 down the Mulsane straight and my Porsche does 172 (....if the wind is blowing the right way, if i have an empty stomach, if i've sacrificed my lawnmower to the automotive gods in the dark of the new moon...) and that's just how it is. Certain manufacturers have inherent advantages and disadvantages, and frankly those differences are what goes into my choice for a manufacturer. Trying to level the playing field mid-stream is counter-productive IMO. If they want everyone to be the same, stick us all in one-make races.

*steps off soapbox*

And now I have a shrubbery to plant in my front yard.
 
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