2023 Nissan Z - 400hp, 6MT/9AT, $40k USD

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Speed is not what the people in the video or going on about. SUVs are fast. The people narrating in the video are talking about areas where SUVs fall short, neutral cornering, composure at the limit, steering feel. They're saying SUVs are not substitutes for sports cars not because they're too slow, they're crazy fast. They're saying SUVs are not substitutes for sports cars because they don't handle well, and that handling is especially evident on the track... a point which almost no consumers actually care about.

For most people, a fast SUV with modern steering and suspension is going to be MORE fun than a Miata. Because it'll be faster in a straight line. As @Eunos_Cosmo was saying, people just want to punch it on an on-ramp. Also they want to pass with confidence. That's really about it, if it doesn't turn like a boat, that's good enough.

I think car enthusiasts and reviewers need to square up with this fact. Technology has gotten us to a point where most people are more than satisfied with the performance characteristics of SUVs and pickup trucks.
Right. I definitely agree with people wanting the acceleration(Especially, many on-ramps in NYC). I’m getting at the youth of today don’t really care much for sporting cars. Not even a fast SUV. It seems as if the youth just want an A to B car. Basing this purely on what I see around me. Not any statistics. Going off what Eunos Cosmo is saying, in the past, station wagons were a big thing. I’d argue better than SUVs for hauling, space wise. However, the versatility of SUVs with genuine off-road capability, sealed the fate of the station wagon. Off course the high hip height entry and seeing over traffic helped as well.

Rate of speed is still not a factor. Youth of today, just want features. I’m doubtful the youth of today, in twenty years, will gravitate to small sporting cars of tomorrow. That’s all I’m getting at. That they won’t even be thinking about small cars or sports cars. Unless, manufacturers start influencing car buyers by offering more small cars over current SUV trends.
Cars are parking without drivers assistance. It probably won’t matter the size of a car in twenty years either. No doubt we’ll see.

Me, personally, the smaller the better. Though, I’m getting a small van(VW Caddy or similar), I’ve been faced the facts of being satisfied with a car’s performance, due to my current environment. I rarely take trips on a freeway and pretty much done with sporting cars. The little Mazda 2 I’m driving is fast enough. ;) A Z would be cool, but an i20N is cool as well.
 

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Basically what I'm seeing here is that I should not spend money on things within the next year to keep my options open.
 

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To be completely honest with you, this thing won't be that special...
I personally think there's a small chance the NISMO will almost immediately become sort of an investment. But I'm less worried about that and more interested in a reasonably priced fun car that can be driven often and occasionally hard. The car is a really cool throwback which is right up my alley.
 
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Think it would have been easier to build a 400z on one of the several decades of SUVs that shared a platform with the 400z than the one that was an overinflated Altima.
 
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Rumors float that Nissan may actually produce a split-grille version of the Z, making it avaliable as a dealer option:

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So I haven't actually seen ANY new Zs yet. I see plenty of Supras and the new BRZ/86 has become a more frequent sight as well, but the Z has proven elusive.
 
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I've seen a handful here in Australia, though I don't recall if there were on the road or in dealerships.