2026/27 Premier League & General Football Discussion

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Perhaps they think they're going up right away, and broke the contract now in a cooling-off window, rather than next year when it would hurt:

 
Sit Back AFC threw away two points in our opening game. We scored in the 2nd minute, Cardiff scored in the 98th minute with the last (free-)kick of the game. Starting away to Cardiff in a derby cauldron for the first league game in 25 years and getting a point doesn't sound bad but we should have been 3-0 up at half-time and just... sat back for the second half. Not killing games off has cost us time after time after time after...

Frustrating.
 
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So are we doing any predictions for the season?

I haven't seen any here yet, I can post mine even though the season has started.
 
So are we doing any predictions for the season?

I haven't seen any here yet, I can post mine even though the season has started.
Dunno about predictions but I'd be fine if it ended right now 😁

Although, once again, it sucks that we don't at least have all of the first (and last) round of matches of the season played on the same day. It's the third day of their season already and still not everyone will have played once until tomorrow.

Edit: Okay, right now would be better :lol:
 
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I feel like this might be a very hard season to predict.

I have hopes United will finish top 4 again, despite yesterday's dissapointment. Albeit that dissapointment was eased slightly when Spurs new £185m midfield lost 3-0.
 
Arsenal are going to win the title again, and maybe run away with it. But the rest of the top four behind them is hard to call, like you I do think United will finish top four.

I think it will be Hull, Ipswich and Forest to go down.
 
What do you think then mate?
 
What do you think then mate?
Need to see more games, Forrest didn’t have a bad game, Leeds were just better, but having seen Man U mark their own players doesn’t install any confidence.
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But with the money being spent at Ipswich and Hull and their preseason games along with the openers they’re looking strong to stay in the league.

Meanwhile Spurs… when your own manager says you’re not a team it’s a troubling start, last season not great and I think West Ham should be in their place. So Spurs are my choice for relegation.

Coventry could be in trouble but again too early for me to say.
 
Deadline Day was yesterday meaning the English Summer transfer window is now closed. Premier League clubs spent a record £3.46 billion in a wild summer with some absolutely outrageous signings for ridiculous money. I thought I would post something of a round up of some of most notable clubs.

Man City.
By far the biggest spenders in a summer of transition for them with Pep leaving and Enzo Maresca coming in as new head coach, they spent over £100 million each on two new midfielders with Elliot Anderson joining from Forest for £116 million and Deadline Day signing Enzo Fernandez joining from Chelsea for a British record-equaling £125 million, both those signings for that money I cant quite get my head around, they also signed Ayyoub Bouaddi from Lille for £85 million which is a record fee for a teenager and Iliman Ndiaye from Everton for £60 million, they had players leaving too like Rodri going to Barcelona for £60 million, Savio and Omar Marmoush both went to Spurs for £75 million and £59 million respectively. But questions still remain as to how they are still getting away with the big spending despite having the 115 charges hanging over them, that issue is still to be resolved with no punishment in sight, its like City are laughing in our faces.

Chelsea.
Its been the usual chaos of incoming and outgoings at Chelsea that we have now been used to, Morgan Rogers came in for £117 million from Aston Villa which is their big signing, they also improved the keeper position finally by signing Emi Martinez also from Villa and brought in Maxence Lacroix from Palace for £55 million, other than Fernandez leaving for City yesterday I think the other notable departure for them was Liam Delap leaving for Forest for £50 million in another stupid overpay, they didn't manage to sign a replacement for Fernandez yesterday after a deal for Lamine Camara of Monaco collapsed so they are now a little light in midfield but their squad looks strong and are arguably Arsenal's nearest rival's for the title, the front three of Rogers, Palmer and Joao Pedro gives problems for any team.

Aston Villa.
Holy Cow what is happening over there?! the team that won the Europa League final against Freiburg in May has been decimated with Martinez, Konsa, Digne, Tielemans and Watkins all gone. They have brought in Nicolas Jackson from Chelsea for £65 million, Johan Manzambi from Freiburg for £55 million, Taylor Harwood-Bellis from Southampton for £30 million and Zion Suzuki for £30 million from Parma, its a rebuild of the squad which will take time to gel and settle hench why they have had such a bad start in the league with two defeats from two and no shots on target, but they still have one of the best managers in the league in Unai Emery so they should be fine.

Spurs.
I thought I would give them a mention as they spent big too, Sandro Tonali came in from Newcastle for £100 million becoming their record signing plus they brought in Matheus Fernandes from West Ham for £85 million, Savio and Marmoush all joined as mentioned above, Van Hecke joined from Brighton for £55 million and they brought in Andy Robertson in on a free from Liverpool. Romero and Djed Spence were the two notable departures, leaving for Atletico Madrid and Inter Milan for £34 million and £30 million.

Arsenal.
It was a more quieter window for the Champions compared to some teams, Bruno Guimaraes joined from Newcastle for £70 million and Christos Tzolis from Club Brugge for nearly £40 million, they did see Gabriel Jesus and Leandro Trossard both leave.

Liverpool.
After their huge summer window last year they spent big again, this time on Bradley Barcola from PSG for up to £123 million and it seems he will be Salah's replacement, Victor Munoz joined from Osasuna for £34 million, they signed young defender Jeremy Jacquet from Stade Rennais for £60 million, Ronald Araujo joined from Barcelona on loan and they signed young keeper Lucca Brughams from Genk yesterday for £30 million. Outgoings include Konate joining Real Madrid on a free and Curtis Jones joining Inter Milan for £30 million, they didn't sign a DM that they needed.

Man United.
I think we have had something of an average window to be honest. We did have our planned midfield rebuild with Audrey Santos arriving first from Chelsea for £50 million, then came Youri Tielemans from Villa for £35 million which is one of the bargains of the summer, then more lately we signed Carlos Baleba for £65 million from Brighton. but we didn't need the left back or centre back which we needed which leaves us a bit weak at the back, I still think we have enough about us to finish in the top four though.
 
Deadline Day was yesterday meaning the English Summer transfer window is now closed. Premier League clubs spent a record £3.46 billion in a wild summer with some absolutely outrageous signings for ridiculous money. I thought I would post something of a round up of some of most notable clubs.

Man City.
By far the biggest spenders in a summer of transition for them with Pep leaving and Enzo Maresca coming in as new head coach, they spent over £100 million each on two new midfielders with Elliot Anderson joining from Forest for £116 million and Deadline Day signing Enzo Fernandez joining from Chelsea for a British record-equaling £125 million, both those signings for that money I cant quite get my head around, they also signed Ayyoub Bouaddi from Lille for £85 million which is a record fee for a teenager and Iliman Ndiaye from Everton for £60 million, they had players leaving too like Rodri going to Barcelona for £60 million, Savio and Omar Marmoush both went to Spurs for £75 million and £59 million respectively. But questions still remain as to how they are still getting away with the big spending despite having the 115 charges hanging over them, that issue is still to be resolved with no punishment in sight, its like City are laughing in our faces.

Chelsea.
Its been the usual chaos of incoming and outgoings at Chelsea that we have now been used to, Morgan Rogers came in for £117 million from Aston Villa which is their big signing, they also improved the keeper position finally by signing Emi Martinez also from Villa and brought in Maxence Lacroix from Palace for £55 million, other than Fernandez leaving for City yesterday I think the other notable departure for them was Liam Delap leaving for Forest for £50 million in another stupid overpay, they didn't manage to sign a replacement for Fernandez yesterday after a deal for Lamine Camara of Monaco collapsed so they are now a little light in midfield but their squad looks strong and are arguably Arsenal's nearest rival's for the title, the front three of Rogers, Palmer and Joao Pedro gives problems for any team.

Aston Villa.
Holy Cow what is happening over there?! the team that won the Europa League final against Freiburg in May has been decimated with Martinez, Konsa, Digne, Tielemans and Watkins all gone. They have brought in Nicolas Jackson from Chelsea for £65 million, Johan Manzambi from Freiburg for £55 million, Taylor Harwood-Bellis from Southampton for £30 million and Zion Suzuki for £30 million from Parma, its a rebuild of the squad which will take time to gel and settle hench why they have had such a bad start in the league with two defeats from two and no shots on target, but they still have one of the best managers in the league in Unai Emery so they should be fine.

Spurs.
I thought I would give them a mention as they spent big too, Sandro Tonali came in from Newcastle for £100 million becoming their record signing plus they brought in Matheus Fernandes from West Ham for £85 million, Savio and Marmoush all joined as mentioned above, Van Hecke joined from Brighton for £55 million and they brought in Andy Robertson in on a free from Liverpool. Romero and Djed Spence were the two notable departures, leaving for Atletico Madrid and Inter Milan for £34 million and £30 million.

Arsenal.
It was a more quieter window for the Champions compared to some teams, Bruno Guimaraes joined from Newcastle for £70 million and Christos Tzolis from Club Brugge for nearly £40 million, they did see Gabriel Jesus and Leandro Trossard both leave.

Liverpool.
After their huge summer window last year they spent big again, this time on Bradley Barcola from PSG for up to £123 million and it seems he will be Salah's replacement, Victor Munoz joined from Osasuna for £34 million, they signed young defender Jeremy Jacquet from Stade Rennais for £60 million, Ronald Araujo joined from Barcelona on loan and they signed young keeper Lucca Brughams from Genk yesterday for £30 million. Outgoings include Konate joining Real Madrid on a free and Curtis Jones joining Inter Milan for £30 million, they didn't sign a DM that they needed.

Man United.
I think we have had something of an average window to be honest. We did have our planned midfield rebuild with Audrey Santos arriving first from Chelsea for £50 million, then came Youri Tielemans from Villa for £35 million which is one of the bargains of the summer, then more lately we signed Carlos Baleba for £65 million from Brighton. but we didn't need the left back or centre back which we needed which leaves us a bit weak at the back, I still think we have enough about us to finish in the top four though.
On top of all this, Everton left all of their dealings to the last minute, sold Beto and failed to sign a replacement with deals for Balogun and Richarlison falling through at the eleventh hour. Balogun was in Liverpool and had his medical, contracts signed between clubs but Balogun didn't sign and walked away citing being unhappy at the clubs treatment and attitude towards him.

For me I'm happy with Brighton's business overall. Some excellent arrivals in the forms of Vuskovic at the back signed for £54m from Spurs to replace Van Hecke who went the other way. Yoahanna, Strujik and Andres also too the feeling charts for Brighton. Most exciting signing comes in the form of a loan deal for Promise David, Canadian striker who put in some excellent performances for his national side during the world cup. Hopefully he can replace Welbecks goals now that he has moved to Chelsea.
 
Gabriel Martinelli has left Arsenal to join Al-Hilal for £60 million which is Arsenal's record sale, it does leave them a little light on the left wing with on Tzolis there now I believe, plus it leaves a few question marks about them up front.

A few clubs have left themselves short after the window, Liverpool didn't sign a DM or maybe a full back leaving their squad a little unbalanced, United didn't sign a left back with only Luke Shaw there who likely cant play three games a week, Chelsea didn't really have enough time to sign another midfielder after Fernandez left for City.
 
Does anyone have any idea how that Haaland goal was given? He was offside at every pause in the VAR, how did they decide it was suddenly onside? Genuinely confused there
 
You wouldn't have known who was down to 10 men in that second half.
 
That was absolutely ****ing horrendous, i'm ****ing fuming! :banghead::mad::mad:
 
That was absolutely ****ing horrendous, i'm ****ing fuming! :banghead::mad::mad:
That was one of the most frustrating Manchester derbies I've watched in years. The wrong starting 11, no changes until we went a goal down, and the changes were wrong.

I really like Carrick as a player and person (as well as I can judge him as a person at least), I want to like him as a manager, but he's making some serious mistakes this season. It's a worry.

Even before the red card, I felt like City could be beat today, they weren't playing on another level. But Carrick made a mistake starting Cunha up front (again) which just doesn't work and I hope the Cunha as a false 9 experiment is over. He needed to make a couple of positive changes at half time (or earlier).

He needed Sesko on and I'd have brought Yoro on too. Probably for Cunha and Dalot. To wait over an hour until City have scored and then take Tielemans off (who was playing well) was as stupid a sub as I've seen in a long time. A brave manager might have taken off Dalot and Martinez for Sesko and Yoro and sacrificed a defender for a forward with the man advantage.

I do think it was wrong to allow that goal, but even if that goal is disallowed, I'm still just as frustrated with the performance and as for the goal, we were 1 man up and we still allowed 2 v 1 at the far post with Haaland and Enzo v Martinez. The game management and tactics are not working. It's on Carrick to fix it, or he'll probably be out soon.
 
Does anyone have any idea how that Haaland goal was given? He was offside at every pause in the VAR, how did they decide it was suddenly onside? Genuinely confused there
Because he was just onside, Fernandez was way offside but never made contact with the ball so it’s technically fine.
Whether its right though.. as Fernandez is now a distraction or obstruction to the keeper in the offside position.
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Fernandez was way offside but never made contact with the ball so it’s technically fine.
Under the "interfering with play" rule, you don't have to touch the ball to be offside. That's the contention. Refereeing body Pro Ref has admitted an error in awarding the goal.

But that aside, Manchester United had a man advantage for a supermajority of the game. Should have worked harder. Lemon juice time, methinks.
 
Not an error Under the "interfering with play" rule, you don't have to touch the ball to be offside. That's the contention.
I get that but he never blocked a field of view or physically interfered so its not interfering with play.
Refereeing body Pro Ref has admitted an error in awarding the goal.
Nope stop reading headlines, not an error in allowing the goal but rather an error regarding: “should have recommended an on-field review”
But that aside, Manchester United had a man advantage for a supermajority of the game. Should have worked harder. Lemon juice time, methinks.
100% agree here, a team of that calibre shouldn’t of been in this position.
 
I get that but he never blocked a field of view or physically interfered so its not interfering with play.

Nope stop reading headlines, not an error in allowing the goal but rather an error regarding: “should have recommended an on-field review”

100% agree here, a team of that calibre shouldn’t of been in this position.
He was interferring with play. That goal never should have stood, but it's an easy excuse to pin United's loss against, when we failed to create meaningful chances against 10 men and got a lot wrong in the game regardless.

(Not so) Pro Ref have admitted that VAR allowing the goal was an error. They should have pointed out that Enzo made a motion to the ball while it was close and instructed the referee to review the footage on field. This would almost certainly have led to the goal being disallowed, as the rules pretty much instruct it to have been. But again, that's not the reason United failed to win.

@Liquid understood the Pro Ref statement just fine from the sound of it, it was an error for VAR to award the goal.
 
He was interferring with play.
What’s the interference? Fernandez didn’t prevent any one at United from playing the ball, didn’t block any field of vision. His attempt at a header is an obvious action but didn’t impact a United player from playing the ball.

By the rule book it’s fine.
 
What’s the interference? Fernandez didn’t prevent any one at United from playing the ball, didn’t block any field of vision. His attempt at a header is an obvious action but didn’t impact a United player from playing the ball.

By the rule book it’s fine.
He influenced both Martinez and Lammens. Martinez tracks Enzo instead of Haaland because Enzo is going for the ball and has a high chance of making contact and also Lammens positions himself ready to make a save if Enzo was to head the ball at goal. It's clear interference.

Neither Martinez nor Lammens ignore Enzo, even though Martinez said he thought Enzo was offside, he still had to react to him in case he wasn't. Loads of people "thought" Haaland was offside, until Dorgu's position on the far side was pointed out to them.

By the rulebook, it should have been dissallowed.
 
He influenced both Martinez and Lammens. Martinez tracks Enzo instead of Haaland because Enzo is going for the ball and has a high chance of making contact and also Lammens positions himself ready to make a save if Enzo was to head the ball at goal.
So they marked the wrong player.
It's clear interference.
It isn’t interference by law 11 definitions.
Neither Martinez nor Lammens ignore Enzo, even though Martinez said he thought Enzo was offside, he still had to react to him in case he wasn't. Loads of people "thought" Haaland was offside, until Dorgu's position on the far side was pointed out to them.

By the rulebook, it should have been dissallowed.
Must be different rules because none of that is here. There are parts that are close but aren’t what happened.
 
So they marked the wrong player.

It isn’t interference by law 11 definitions.

Must be different rules because none of that is here. There are parts that are close but aren’t what happened.
"clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent"

Even Pro Ref are admitting VAR not telling the ref to look at it for that reason was a mistake.

You're entitled to your view, but you appear to be in the minority in your interpretation of the incident.
 
"clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent"

Even Pro Ref are admitting VAR not telling the ref to look at it for that reason was a mistake.

You're entitled to your view, but you appear to be in the minority in your interpretation of the incident.
If this is too close to impact an opponent then players should never be in the box, the impact doesn’t prevent the United players playing the ball.
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If this is too close to impact an opponent then players should never be in the box, the impact doesn’t prevent the United players playing the ball.
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Sorry, but that's a nonsense statement to make. Of course players should be in the box, just don't make a play for the ball from an offside position. As for it impacting other players, it clearly did. If Enzo isn't offside and doesn't make a play for the ball, Martinez can make a diagonal run towards Haaland instead. It also clearly impacted the positioning of Lammens, who is clearly positioned to save a header if Enzo had made contact. I'm happy to agree to disagree here, but bear in mind, it's pretty unanimous amongst pundits and commentators alike that the goal should have been disallowed based on the current interpretation of the rules.

Just to reiterate, I don't see this as the key point of the match. It was wrong, but not the reason United failed to score, or play well after City went down to 10 men.
 
There's zero doubt whatsoever that the decision to allow Haaland's goal was wrong.

What is more alarming is how this can still happen - I know VAR is not perfect (obviously!), but it is crazy that a game of this magnitude can be decided by such a mistake.

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On Scottish football, it is hard not to despair at the revolting sectarianism and hateful culture that still pervades Scottish football at the highest level - and, of course, it goes well beyond football. But clubs like Celtic and Rangers MUST take a much harsher stance on the behaviour of huge swathes of their own supporters, and kick out sectarianism and hate. It's an embarrassment and a national disgrace.
 
As in politics, the big problem with ending sectarianism is whichever side extends the first olive branch of peace is perceived to have 'lost' or appear weak. Instead of... oh, I don't know, being the bigger man and get the win by taking the initiative?

That's not universally true but in general I think it's why these things continue to drag on.
 
Firstly, **** Crystal Palace.

But their first Europa League goal is absolutely hilarious.
 
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