4WD Drift/Inital D Drift

FF Drfit good or not.


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lacer8
lol nice vid.... you know what would be better though? an ACTUAL VID

You are just as worse as the first post.


Now back on topic, i believe FF drifting is not necessarily "bad" but it's not done that much. It may be of help in relating to actual FF cars, for instance me and my altima, but other than that that, i see no particular use.
 
ForcedInduction
You are just as worse as the first post.


Now back on topic, i believe FF drifting is not necessarily "bad" but it's not done that much. It may be of help in relating to actual FF cars, for instance me and my altima, but other than that that, i see no particular use.
Hey, Im offended by that comment, j/k, anyways, im neutral on FF drifting because its just drifting anyways if anyone attacks me saying that im wrong, Iwould mind challenging you ^^.
nk4E
 
I don't like drifting FF's because FFs have reverse logic.

Edit: Also, are you aware that you're the 3rd person to have the words "Takumi" and "Fujiwara" in your member title, joining the active Takumi Fujiwara and rarely-posts Takumi_Fujiwara?
 
Heh...yeah...

Initial D is awesome and all (I downloaded every episode, w00t!), but IMO using a the name of a character from it shows no originality.
 
Sohcahtoa
Heh...yeah...

Initial D is awesome and all (I downloaded every episode, w00t!), but IMO using a the name of a character from it shows no originality.
Are you that geometry term for SIN COS AND TANGENT ?
 
What the hell is the "Initial D" drift? Is it some sort of a lame excuse for a drift?
 
Viper Zero
What the hell is the "Initial D" drift? Is it some sort of a lame excuse for a drift?
Lol, thats funny but i like the inertia as a better excuse
 
Victor Vance
*looks at Vice City Crime Tree*

Guess I'm unoriginal.


Uhm... there's a geometry term for SIN COS AND TANGENT? And what is this 'sin cos and tangent'?
its used to figure out angles within a triangle
 
Best. Thread. Ever.

It's awesome how his thread title, poll, and first post are all about completely different topics.
 
tabs
Best. Thread. Ever.

It's awesome how his thread title, poll, and first post are all about completely different topics.

Agreed...

As for FF drifting... I do it, and enjoy it... However, I would not consider it in the same league, or even category as FR/MR/AWD drifting... I tend to refer to it as sliding rather than drifting...

This kind of thread (and a number of the replies) is exactly why the drift forum is looked down on by the rest of GTP...


;)
 
extreme car
ok then so am i supposed to call FF car don't drift but they powerslide?
sorry for the bad english :dopey:

they can't even powerslide... without power from the rear wheels, how possibly can they "powerslide"?
FF just slides.... by forcefully using the E-brake 💡
 
to solve the mystery SOH CAH TOA is year 7 mathematics, remember trig? very basic stuff.
FF and drifting. depends on the user's definition of drift.
my interpretation of drift is entering a corner at the angle used to exit that corner or progressively achieving exit angle before the exit. FF can manage that through weight shifting and loss of traction to the rear wheels, with or without the use of the handbrake. it is nothing spectacular, it's still sliding (skidding, ass dragging, whatever the term) but in my opinion they can drift.
 
Stanley^Carter
they can't even powerslide... without power from the rear wheels, how possibly can they "powerslide"?
FF just slides.... by forcefully using the E-brake 💡

one question for all the FF hater. WHY DO YOU HATE THEM SO MUCH????
 
Sohcahtoa
Pfft...FFs don't drift...they just drag their ass.

...right... I would say more but... no... not worth it...sorry if that sounds like an insult...


silviadrifter
Agreed...

As for FF drifting... I do it, and enjoy it... However, I would not consider it in the same league, or even category as FR/MR/AWD drifting... I tend to refer to it as sliding rather than drifting...

This kind of thread (and a number of the replies) is exactly why the drift forum is looked down on by the rest of GTP...


;)

that's unfornattley so...but would I be just out of my mind to say some people have been trying to sorta turn that sitaution around...even though it is threads like this that does not help our situation one bit (and I would go futher but...not for a while...)... I mean...yes this is not exaclty a helpfull thread... I thought about not replying...I'm still wondering why I've bothered to say something... I guess cause of what Silviadrifter and a few others said..

As for the topic... okay... that's argueable...on many levels...why?...

FF has no power to the rear tires, a drift is usually defined as sending the car into a controlled skid...usually before or at the start of a turn... this is best caused by using the car's power, steering, weight shifting, etc to start a 'drift' or a proper skid thru a turn at a given angle at a good speed. That's a definition of a drift as far as I know unless I''ve been mis-informed (or I can just give the other explination that Fujiwara Takumi did put in and that Yuichi futher had thought about...that could work too...then again...), but a key thing is that it's with partly the rear tires that start it since they are a factor to keeping the skiding or drifting or whatever going becuase power is transfered into it.

To even try that with an FF would be very difficult if not impossible outright becuase power is just transfered to the front tires, to get that loss of rear grip, you would use something like the E-brake or pull the car into an oversteer similar to an rear drive car save for the fact you may not want to step on the gas a lot if at all due to the drivetrain's natural understeering tenecny... I could be wrong altogether about this though... but I've seen this in RL and in GT and Life For Speed (yes I've actually manged to spin out with an FF at least once or twice...mainly in LFS than GT and only cause I don't pratice in LFS as much as GT so I otherwise suck 50% of the time...) in a number of cases.

So the question is, is it good or not? Well... depends on what you try to do, Silvia drifter probally had answered it best... it could be that but one could disagree becuase it's not the same as you would with a car with power to the rear wheels, be it FR, MR, RR and also AWD be it based on origionally an rear drive or front drive format (someone somewhere said some stuff on about how AWD's can not be considered drifting due to the front tires spining as well... I felt like argueing but I decicded to not say anything about it... I'm not great wtih AWD drifting to begin with so would it be a strech to ask just how that entire process works...again?...I may already know to some extent but it would not hurt in this case to at least have that explained a bit again...)... and it depends on what you're trying to do.

Since I've not yet mastered FF drifting, i can't take a side yet on an intelligence basis...least on my view yet... as far as it stands... I can't take an actuall side (this leads to one wondering just why in the hell I bothered to say anything to begin with eh?...)... I guess good or bad depending on what you're trying to do I guess.


So much for trying to make it short...probally left out and said some stuff I'll be kicking myself later for too... oh well I guess...

Untill later... I think...
 
I hate FF because I'd rather oversteer than understeer. Plus, I really don't think there's any way to drift an FF without very heavy usage of the hand brake, which of course means you'll be going VERY slow. Like I said...its just ass dragging.

Though I wonder...could you get an FF to oversteer if you used T8 Super Soft racing tires in the front and the stock driving-like-ice tires in the back? Maybe you could turn the car hard enough that the back tires lost traction, but the front tires still grip. Though I suppose that when you begin countersteering, the car would straighten back out, whether you used the gas or not.
 
arggg, R_Rider writes so much! haha, it's a good thing tho.. "express your feelings~! write all them down!" haha (i don't know where it came from)

but. anyways, FF drift is pretty cool, most of FF cars in gt3 are cars we see in our life usually. such as civic.. integra...

i don't really get why some people hate FF drift, but love FR drifts...
it's still drift.. right? don't be a hater ;]
 
This. Is. Stupid.

We are totally off topic... And nothing pisses me off more than someone describing a technique as "Initial D"
 
I hereby retract all statements I've made about hating FF cars. They were unfounded, and rather uneducated. I'll admit I had little evidence driving FF in GT, and all that experience was negative dealing with massive understeer.

In GT3 I just purchased the Acura Integra Type R, and I love it. The handling of it is so much more predictable than the FRs I've driven.

And as for drifting, meh...its slow. I don't see FF drifting being used for anything other than exhibition. My experience is showing that you can't drift an FF without near constant usage of the e-brake. I think its safe to say that speed drifting with FF is an oxy moron.
 
Sohcahtoa
Though I wonder...could you get an FF to oversteer if you used T8 Super Soft racing tires in the front and the stock driving-like-ice tires in the back?

I oversteered while using spoon civic type r sometime
 
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