5/23/12 - A-Spec: 430PP FF Challenge

[MentalDefex]

Just want to throw in my 2 cents. I've read through about 12 pages of this thread and haven't seen anyone mention torque. It doesn't play as big a part in PP calculations as HP so you can get a car with good torque, tune it up, then turn it down to a lower PP. The torque doesn't go down as much as the HP. You would then increase your gearing to get better performance. The Hondas that people are trying don't have much torque. I used the coupe turbo plus and blew away all the races. On Daytona you should look for a heavy car. That way you can have more power with lower PP since weight doesn't affect top speed much. There, I said it...

For example: Coupe Turbo plus refreshed and fully tuned minus the turbo is
327hp @ 6400 rpm and
300 ftlb @ 3400 rpm.
466 PP.

Power at 50% =
163hp @ 3200 rpm
286ftlb @ 3000 rpm
387 PP.
That's 164hp lost but only 14 ftlb's of torque! So you gear up and short shift the transmission. Add some weight for less PP and you're golden.

 

[Lewis_Hamilton_]

On the complete flip side, I find the complete opposite of what you've just posted

I always find my lap times, references with time trial ghosts, speeds while passing landmarks and PP figures to be better when I kill the torque and maintain as much HP as possible.

One such example being the Toyota Levin/Trueno BZ-R. It is naturally aspirated, but can be fitted with any of the 3 turbos available or the supercharger. While setting a target of 400pp, I found the best performance, top speeds and lap times came when I left the car NA, which maintained a higher PP figure. Where as adding any of the turbos or the supercharger added a small amount of torque, but killed the HP to remain at 400pp.

I've tested this in several other cars and found the same result. At the same time, I've always found it better to keep the car as light as possible and reduce the HP to fit the PP requirements. Adding ballast still takes longer to accelerate even with the extra HP you gain, as well as negativiely affecting the car's handling and cornering speed.

 

[Sonic_striker]

Did cape ring in the old shape '01 Ka, it's a pretty horrible car but I caught the Dc5 integra on the last lap

respect, driving such an imo stupid girly car
btw how much pp did you have?

 

[GTAndy36]

Just wondering, haven't had the chance to give this event a proper go yet. Apart from the Prius, what has anyone else had an easy enough success at a very low PP level (under 300).

 

[OneHandSteer]

respect, driving such an imo stupid girly car
btw how much pp did you have?

i tuned it up to around 365 because the stock 65 hp and max speed of around 95 mph on the straight on cape ring was just hopeless

sweet, just found a 106 rallye in used cars market, worth a go

 

[Sonuji]

I won Daytona with a celica Trd sports M with all default settings and comfort soft tires. You get the lead late on the last lap, but it can be done as long as you drive decently.

 

[Rubix]

Just grabbed the Volkswagen Golf GTI '76 from the UCD standing at 360PP / 111HP / 820KG. Thinking about playing around with it and see how of PP I can get to win the seasonal.

 

[jonas232]

MUST BUY RAIT NAO!!!!

Its awesome!

 

[andyelliot]

I notice that for once there's no moaning by and large with this seasonal. Crikey!

 

[PriMax77]

On Daytona you should look for a heavy car. That way you can have more power with lower PP since weight doesn't affect top speed much. There, I said it...

That's what I did. I used the Acura '03 CSL. Only thing was I was only able to tune it down to about 415 and still win the race. Then I ran the Eagle Talon as mentioned earlier in the thread and blew the course away at a much lower PP rating. For fun I ran the Opel Tigra and was suprised at how fast that little bubble "behind" was at 418. Ran the Tigra with wing at the cape ring and won by 20ish(?) seconds at 418. Plan on going back and see how low it can go. I also want to try the Fiat "boat" around a few of the tracks.

Overall, very pleased with the new races. I hope they continue the trend and mix things up over the standard 400,500 and 650 races.

 

[Clytius]

Right, gave the Polo GTI a run at 299pp, but I couldn't keep the other cars behind me on the final straight

I bumped up the PP to 305 and won by 3 seconds.

Set up is as follows:

How did you do this? I used the exact same tune with the exact same opponents and couldn't even get close to the 8th placed car

 

[PATRICK STARR]

sweet, just found a 106 rallye in used cars market, worth a go

try using a lupo gti 100bhp,320pp ish, full suspension, drivetrain and transmission. Then load and exit race 9 times until fiat coupe turbo is 1st, easy win. CR 1.5 to 16mill for 10mins. Do the same for eiffel kart but with alfa 147 around 350pp easy win. enjoy

 

[cbabb]

try using a lupo gti 100bhp,320pp ish, full suspension, drivetrain and transmission. Then load and exit race 9 times until fiat coupe turbo is 1st, easy win. CR 1.5 to 16mill for 10mins. Do the same for eiffel kart but with alfa 147 around 350pp easy win. enjoy

Was gonna say this. You beat me to it. Haha. Except I use a Mini Cooper S '11 @ 320PP

 

[Shalashaska523]

Any good tunes or cars for Daytona to make quick cash?

 

[Milldrum]

Any good tunes or cars for Daytona to make quick cash?

I don't have a tune for you, but you should maybe look at a heavier car with big BHP to get a good top speed.

 

[Shalashaska523]

I don't have a tune for you, but you should maybe look at a heavier car with big BHP to get a good top speed.

I figure Daytona would be faster and easier since its such a simple track

 

[Geforce20]

And now, the summary of my night spent going round and round in a lot of circles

My final tally for the night is Daytona at 373 in the Eagle Talon ESI that is currently at the OCD. Full ballast, all horsepower mods, suspension lowered all the way (not sure if this makes a difference). Power limited to 66.7%. Transmission set to 161mph, with 4th shortened a bit to keep the car in 5th after going into the first turn. All adjustments in PP made with the power limiter.

Had two tries at 370 (sixth, +:07.xx-for both), one at 371 (fifth, +:04.xx), and two at 372 (sixth, +:06.xx), all unsuccessful. One successful attempt at 373 (-:00.79). Two successful attempts at 375 (-:02.53, -:02.24), two at 380 (-:05.77), one at 390 (-07.83), and one at 420 (-21.xx, yikes).

The first order of business is to get enough power to get to the draft of the first car...you can begin to do this at around 362 PP. After that, the cars tend to bunch up in groups of two. The first (somewhat) substantial gap occurs between the group in 9th/8th and the group in 7th/6th - this seems to take around half of a lap to close while maintaining about a residual 146mph from the 9th/8th group. After that occurs on about the backstretch of the third lap, there is a huge gap of about 5 or so seconds to close to the top five. This seems to be the gap that really limits the power output. The first time you see the group, they will likely be split into 5/4/3 and 2/1 with about a 1 second gap between groups; this generally closes until the groups merge at about turn one on the last lap. On about every fifth attempt, one straggler in the 5/4/3 group may fall behind and will help you close (this was the guy I passed for fifth in the run I did at 171), but in my experience, you will not be able to close to him until the backstretch of the last lap, too late to make a move on the lead pack. Once you manage to catch the lead group at the end of the backstretch on the last lap, stay as low as possible and block your position if necessary.

Max payout: ~685,000 cr with 130% daily bonus...?

Sorry for the essay mates

heres a helpful quote for the daytona

 

[swamidude]

Hi guys just as a benchmark figure would any of you mind posting your average lap times around Tsukuba and the pp of the car you used? I just wanna know if I'm doing it wrong :/

 

[juicy2]

toscana has so much sun glare that i cant see the track

ive change the brightness settings in the game with no help

come to think of it, i made a custom tos. track and recently tried to drive there and the same thing happened

it used to not be like this

can anyone help with this problem?

 

[Pottert]

Amazing some people have used such a low PP and beat it ! Kudos

 

[USARMYCOMBATVET]

toscana has so much sun glare that i cant see the track

ive change the brightness settings in the game with no help

come to think of it, i made a custom tos. track and recently tried to drive there and the same thing happened

it used to not be like this

can anyone help with this problem?

Which TV brand and model are you using? I use a SONY Bravia EX500 60 inch. It seems to filter the sunlight well enough. The TV itself may need adjustment.

 

[Marinhos33]

What's the best car for tsubuka?

 

[USARMYCOMBATVET]

What's the best car for tsubuka?

I drive the Integra Type-R (DC5) '04 on that course(@~380PP). If you want a tune, I'll get it for you.

 

[JTpwnface]

What's the best car for tsubuka?

I took the Spoon CR-Z (@ 389pp) and managed to take first right before the finish line. Closest race I've ever had, yet.

I delivered pizzas in a Peugeot Partner EV, some 10-15 years ago.
Necessity taught me how to concerve and re-charge at every opportunity.
That is the secret to my 265 pp run

Yes! There is more merit to pizza delivery than just cheesy porn cliches.

 

[JTpwnface]

my bad, double post..

 

[Marinhos33]

I drive the Integra Type-R (DC5) '04 on that course(@~380PP). If you want a tune, I'll get it for you.

I accept your offer, i'm new in the game, and all the help is good coming

 

[USARMYCOMBATVET]

I accept your offer, i'm new in the game, and all the help is good coming

Ok, I'll get the tune as soon as I get to my PS3. I believe in sharing tunes because we all want to enjoy this game.

 

[Dr_Watson]

The original mini. Always happy to prove it's the most fun that can be had with wrong wheel drive.

http://youtu.be/PTkpUmZxuSA?hd=1



Tried to get the job done with under 100 hp but it was just losing too much ground climbing the hill.

cheers, 👍

 

[Ryk]

I got gifted a random car last week - I asked for a Copen and got the 2007 Daihatsu Concept - fulled loaded - this tok it over 430 so I dropepd down to 430 by swapping down a only a sports Exhaust

Grid

Cape Ring Outer - 5 Laps

10m26 - 2m10 - Megane (Started on Pole but loses a place)
10m23 - 2m08 - Civic Type R 2008 - (Starts second then moves to lead the AI pack)
10m31 - 2m11 - Integra Type R 1999
10m39 - 2m12 - Alfa Romeo 147 Twinspark

You start 25 seconds down so you either need to pull laps 5 seconds faster than those above - I'D GUESS A CONSISTENT 2m04 pace would get a 10m20 race pace... which should be enough. You'll see later my best lap at 400 was well under this which shows just how bad the other 4 laps must have been - traffic obviously.

At 430 my Daihastu had the edge by a huge margin...
9m53 - 1m56.6 (430pp)

I then only used Turbo 1 and a Sports Exhaust Manifold to get 400pp
10m20 - 2m01.2 (400pp)

Glitch suits gets a White race suit with Silver stripes and a Silver lid with white stripes and grey and white driving mittens.

Incar - Aston Martin style counter clockwise rev counter is good - the speedo that tops out at 85mph isn't so good -

103bhp - 728kg - 400pp

 

[fireice]

Some food for thought:

Running 8:00 on the Eifel track, in a 340PP car nets the same Credits per Minute, as running 10:30 in a 290PP car around Cape Ring.

For those of us who may find it hard getting a Prius to place first at 290PP, you may find the Eifel track easier, for the same payout. I ran a 340PP Celica SSII and won easily. You could probably get it below 340PP for an even better payout, depending on your skill level.

What setup did you use? Pleaseee, thanks!