85th Running Of The 24 Hours Of Le Mans, 17-18 June 2017Sports Cars

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Yea, it got me wondering about, however with all that said, they said they couldn't find anything on the telementary data, and at the time, it didn't seem to be affecting the performance of the #8 significantly. And at the end of day I'm nowhere near as clever or cut out for the job, that the boffins in the Toyota garage do.

Just thought it might've been worth "gambling" and bringing the #8 in earlier to be better "safe than sorry", especially after the #1's hybrid issues.

Engineers trust data too much, and less on the actual hand's on. The other problem is as you said even if they brought it in they wouldn't at that point know where to really start or guess what was wrong.

Speaking of Toyota troubles...how ya doin #7

 

[Savolainen83]

Odd. I just checked through a Finnish proxy and I still get a picture.

No problem anymore, realised my tv has a picture and picture function . GTA on the left side and eurosport on the right.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

More HP vs better chassis?

I think you underestimate the amount of power the engines in P1 have with out the hybrid units. Also they have better chassis too, so yes to that.

 

[[Nor]MclarenF1]

A drivethrough wouldn't be the end of the world. The Toyotas clearly have the pace advantage.

 

[Mike458]

They are handing this race to
Porsche.

Will we see 2016 all over again?

#Porsche3peatHype

 

[GTFan24]

What if the #1 also has an issue? All these LMP 1's having problems makes me nervous that it may happen to that Porsche as well

 

[Dotini]

Still wouldn't beat the LMP1 without hybrid

Give it only a turbo.

 

[Amac500]

Does anyone have a copy of the 8 hour standings so I can update my spotters guide?

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Give it only a turbo.

What???

 

[Michelin Man]

I am so on edge with the leading #7 and #9 with regards to them being under investigation .

 

[Vinylshark]

They are handing this race to Porsche.

Guess it's time to pull out the tinfoil hat.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

What if the #1 also has an issue? All these LMP 1's having problems makes me nervous that it may happen to that Porsche as well

Eh it's possible, they had a rare issue on the sister car, but the Porsche seem to have a more reasonable car *knock's on wood*

 

[Michael88]

I think you underestimate the amount of power the engines in P1 have with out the hybrid units. Also they have better chassis too, so yes to that.

Maybe the lack of reliability the is the great equalizer?

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

Eh it's possible, they had a rare issue on the sister car, but the Porsche seem to have a more reasonable car *knock's on wood*

I don't think any of them are reliable, they were having problems all week in practice/testing. Not even the P2 cars are reliable they just have strength through numbers.

 

[IforceV8]

The kid that was in the 28 car issues a apology for taking out the Risi car.

 

[PzR Slim]

An LMP2 car could win this yet.

 

[Tired Tyres]

Does anyone have a copy of the 8 hour standings so I can update my spotters guide?

Classification

PDF download.

 

[Organ-Donor]

Guess it's time to pull out the tinfoil hat.

I think he's talking about Toyota for making stupid mistakes.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Maybe the lack of reliability the is the great equalizer?

@GOTMAXPOWER just pointed out they're all bad with reliability. And looking at other series with the Gibson engine, they fail from time to time on less. So probably not. Luck though, luck is key

 

[mikeerfol]

An LMP2 car could win this yet.

When was the last time the race was won by a non top tier car? 1995?

 

[GTracer98]

A bizarre thought actually, an LMP2 taking overall victory, we are now so used to having LMP1s (or other top class cars) taking the main trophy. Although, there have been overall winners even from GT classes in the race's history.

 

[Michelin Man]

Engineers trust data too much, and less on the actual hand's on

That's a very good way of putting it

As much as the data they analyse is very accurate and, and incredibly useful in making decisions, it's not always correct and 100% indicative of any potential issues that may be had.

I suppose hindsight is a wonderful thing, after all it is what is right now with the #8, but potentially things could've been prevented with an earlier call.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

When was the last time the race was won by a non top tier car? 1995?

I thought 1998

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

When was the last time the race was won by a non top tier car? 1995?

Maybe 2003 or 2002, the Bentley's and Audi's ran under different classes even though the pace between the two was near enough to identical.

 

[Famine]

When was the last time the race was won by a non top tier car? 1995?

1998 was won by a GT1 Porsche, with the lead LMP well down in 8th.

 

[Silent Drifter]

#9 Toyota needs to fix their number panel, because it's not working.

 

[Michelin Man]

We talk of GTE-Pro still being fraught with battles, but LMP2 is really hotting up with the battle for the lead.

 

[Dotini]

What???

Let's say all the LMP1 cars failed with hybrid drive failure, and the class became moribund and abandoned by the manufacturers. In that event I would like to see the LMP2 cars elevated to P1. What a spectacle, 30 cars instantly fighting for the podium. But if you absolutely had to have an affordable new P1 class several seconds faster than the P2's, then it could be done quickly by modifying some P2's with turbos. There are several dozen state of the art LMP2 cars in the world, plenty to feed a new class powered by 5 liter V-8 turbos.

 

[Vinylshark]

I guess that's one way to watch the race at home.

I think he's talking about Toyota for making stupid mistakes.

Might be.

 

[Tired Tyres]

I thought 1998

Maybe 2003 or 2002, the Bentley's and Audi's ran under different classes even though the pace between the two was near enough to identical.

Different category but not lesser category. 1995 was the last time.