a little rant on the latest happenings in the GT5 section

[the Interceptor]

Okay, I need to vent for a bit. I am pretty ... annoyed by the sheer amount of threads that keeps popping up since there have been news on the next installment of Gran Turismo a few weeks ago. I understand that there is a huge demand for information, which doesn't go very well with the dodgy communication policy of Polyphony Digital. Thus, I can understand that people would love to see, read or hear more. So would I. But there isn't more, and talking about that won't change that fact.

I know that a forum is there for discussions. I know that the world doesn't end because of new threads, and that I can still choose to ignore them if I like. The problem I see however is that this community also describes a database of information. And since a forum is not organised like a database, that information is pretty difficult to find already. So covering the few bits and pieces we have with tons of discussion which, on top of it, leads nowhere doesn't really help, does it? 95% of new threads I currently see in the GT5 section have no actual point. People don't think enough before they open them. The main reasons for new threads are:

• having questions which could easily be answered by having a look around this forum or using Google
• having questions noone has an answer to, because the information simply hasn't been put forward by Polyphony Digital
• having thoughts which are purely based on speculation and thus bear no substance
• having your own "personal" discussion

What I would love to see is that people understand that with being a part of this community, they also have a certain responsibility. That also includes asking oneself whether a new thread will contribute anything of importance to this forum. Let's face it, most of the threads in question are born with one thought in mind "I have a question now, so I open a thread here.". That's a bit self-serving, isn't it? Remember you are putting a load on this community with each thread you open. You may think that the load is just tiny, but the next person opens a thread, too, and so does the next one, and the next one, and...

I have been a part of the "Planet" for a long time, and I hope I will be for much longer. So naturally, I am interested in keeping things in check and contributing when necessary, but keeping my mouth shut when there's nothing to be said. I just wish more people would think like that...

/rant

 

[Legendary]

Perhaps this would be better off in the GT5 forum or the site feedback forum, you might not get much interest here.

I for one dont spend much time in the GT5 forum at the moment, this forum is being used for other purposes for me, that is actually what makes this such an awesome forum. When GT5 comes out I will more than likely spend much more time in there so at the moment I cant comment on what you are experiencing.

 

[homeforsummer]

I agree with you completely, Interceptor. I've basically given up on the GT5 and GT5 sections for the time being as three quarters of the discussion is absolutely worthless, and I find topics like this one and this one completely worthless, and especially not worthy of a whole thread. Most subjects that people are starting new threads for could quite happily be answered in a few posts in the general discussion thread.

Luckily, the genuinely relevant threads are stickied. What amuses me is that the GT5 for a long while was full of the same completely irrelevant threads, and yet at the moment all the activity has moved to the game that isn't out yet and the threads in the GT5 section are actually reasonably interesting and/or useful.

 

[Northstar]

While I generally agree it is hard to actually have relevant and meaningful conversations about a game that isn't out yet. I think it would also help if VBulletin had a better search feature.

 

[Small_Fryz]

Reminds me when GT4 came out... with 10x the member base im sure its 10x worse than it was then.. i havnt bothered to check into that section to be honest haha.

 

[mafia_boy]

The GT4 section still has problems but nothing compared to the GT5 section at the moment, due to GT5 being nothing but wishlists, etc.

The problem in the GT4 section is that most of the questions and other info IS in there if you just used the search button, but every three months the school holidays starts somewhere in the world and you get the usual rush of threads from new members about the same old gibberish.

The GT5 section is everyone jumping up and asking the same enquiries about damage, day/night, 3D Trees, purple monkey dishwashers and everything!! It's easier to get GT5 info from reading the news section.

 

[TsukubaTrueno]

"GT5 will have 20 tracks?! WTF!!!1"

I agree with everyone above me.

 

[Studentdriver]

The GT5 section is everyone jumping up and asking the same enquiries about damage, day/night, 3D Trees, purple monkey dishwashers and everything!! It's easier to get GT5 info from reading the news section.

 

[Alex p.]

A huge LOL

 

[Peter]

I completely agree, I've hardly spent time there, it annoys me, having such silly, un-answerable questions. That's why I've been everywhere else, and I've been kicking back in the GTMobile forum, somewhere that has no stupid questions, and no new threads every 5 minutes.

 

[VEXD]

So that's what Famine loox like.

By the way Interceptor, you're exactly right to whinge/rant.

Does anyone know if there will be day to night changes in the 24hr races though?

👍

 

[YSSMAN]

I think I've just learned to say the hell away from that section if I want to keep my head on straight. I waded in during the E3 explosion of emotion, maybe for a week or so after that, but not since. Blame the lack of information, blame the popularity of the game, but I don't think we can fault many of the people for their enthusiasm. Furthermore, look at the flip side - The Forza 3 thread has been a disaster based mostly on the fact that there may be too much information coming out to discuss.

That, or they're just hatin', man.

 

[Joel]

I agree. I was caught up in the GT5 section until Gamescom. After Gamescom, everything just went ape:censored:

 

[Nicksfix]

So you think it's bad now,wait until the full game gets released,more and more new members will flock in here like it's nobody's business,then my friend,watch the GT5 section go absolutely nuts.

Can't tell me that the Mods are anticipating the days to come once the game is out.It will be a full time job for these guys.

 

[Famine]

I for one dont spend much time in the GT5 forum at the moment

I've basically given up on the GT5 and GT5 sections for the time being

It's easier to get GT5 info from reading the news section.

I've hardly spent time there, it annoys me

I think I've just learned to say the hell away from that section if I want to keep my head on straight.

Lucky buggers.

 

[opelgt1969]

Famine, Sure makes me glad I'm not a Mod especially a "Super Mod" that has to read everything.

 

[big dani]

the Interceptor
I have a question now, so I open a thread here.". That's a bit self-serving, isn't it? Remember you are putting a load on this community with each thread you open. You may think that the load is just tiny, but the next person opens a thread, too, and so does the next one, and the next one, and...
thats exacly what you did here, isnt? my opinion is that this thread is pointless too.. but, i wont make threader about it, like you! every person has right to do what he want, if he has question then he should ask.. so now you come and you will play cop? i am sorry,if i make my self clear, but i would just say my opinion.. and sorry for my grammar mistake and bad english..

 

[the Interceptor]

the Interceptor
I have a question now, so I open a thread here.". That's a bit self-serving, isn't it? Remember you are putting a load on this community with each thread you open. You may think that the load is just tiny, but the next person opens a thread, too, and so does the next one, and the next one, and...
thats exacly what you did here, isnt?

Well technically, I didn't have a question, but I know what you mean. There is a couple of differences though. I didn't open this thread in the GT5 section, because it doesn't belong there. This thread does not have a duplicate on this specific topic I could have found by searching or used by posting in it. And regarding the replies it got as of yet, it obviously has touched a sore spot, so there is a point to this discussion.

my opinion is that this thread is pointless too.. but, i wont make threader about it, like you! every person has right to do what he want, if he has question then he should ask..

No, actually this is not correct. Of course, everyone has a right to get information. But that doesn't mean that everyone should open a thread to find it. Like I said - with being members of this forum, we all have a responsibility. I want to find information about GT5 just as much as you want to. Therefore, I try to keep information I post compact and clear and put it in the right place, so that everyone can find it. But since this is a forum, you sometimes need to dig and search a little before you find something. That's the nature of a forum. So if everyone contributes a little, puts his personal needs aside for a moment and tries to keep the GT5 section organised, things would look much neater there, and everyone would have an easier life: users would find information quicker and easier, and mods wouldn't have so much work in reading and moderating. To achieve that however, every single member visiting that section needs to contribute a little and have a little bit of discipline.

so now you come and you will play cop?

I don't want to play cop. I am in no position to tell anyone anything in this forum, and I'm not trying to. I'm simply trying to talk some sense into some people and raise awareness for certain problems. That serves me just as it serves everybody else. Before opening a thread, every member should ask himself whether the new topic will contribute anything useful not only to himself, but to the community. If he has to answer that question with "no", he clearly should think twice before opening that thread. If it's a simple, quick question, it can easily go in the "general questions" thread. Also, it has probably been asked before, so searching helps as well. I am merely pointing out actions which should come naturally for everybody here, because we all should have an interest in keeping GTPlanet the good place it is.

As Nicksfix already pointed out, this place will be pure anarchy when more information on GT5 will surface, or even worse, when it will be released. We all should have an interest in toning the imminent chaos down by keeping things short, simple, clear to find and by not opening threads on necessities which can still be resolved when the dust has settled. That's what I meant when I said that people think too self-centered when they open threads.

Do you know the saying "Leave a place in a condition you'd like to find it in"? If we all apply that to this forum when we operate it, we'll be fine.

 

[Pupik]

the Interceptor
I have a question now, so I open a thread here.". That's a bit self-serving, isn't it? Remember you are putting a load on this community with each thread you open. You may think that the load is just tiny, but the next person opens a thread, too, and so does the next one, and the next one, and...
thats exacly what you did here, isnt? my opinion is that this thread is pointless too.. but, i wont make threader about it, like you! every person has right to do what he want, if he has question then he should ask.. so now you come and you will play cop? i am sorry,if i make my self clear, but i would just say my opinion.. and sorry for my grammar mistake and bad english..

Watch your spelling and punctuation, Big guy.

He's only making a citizen's arrest on members like you; never mind that he actually operates his own GT forum and contributes mightily to ours as well.

This is an open-ended section of GTPlanet, and nobody specifically singling out any other members. It is really a discussion about forum behavior and expectations.

 

[GilesGuthrie]

Okay, I need to vent for a bit. I am pretty ... annoyed by the sheer amount of threads that keeps popping up

[snip]

But one of the things about forums such as GTPlanet is that it enables people to just blurt out whatever's in their head at the time, be that through the Reply functionality or the Post New Thread. What you're asking for is that people, particularly young people, stop to think for a second about whether anyone is going to care about what they're thinking of writing.

And if you can get that to happen, I'll book my seat on Porker Air to come to your town and buy you a beer.

Young people in particular cannot comprehend that what they're thinking isn't going to be the most interesting thing everyone's read that day, even in spite of acknowledging that the vast majority of what other young people write is vacuous nonsense. Ain't irony beautiful?!

 

[mafia_boy]

Lucky buggers.

Yes, we are Famine, yes we are.

As to big dani, it's not that T.I. is making a useless thread or playing cop (we have enough mods/super mods/admins to do that), it's that he is pointing out a fact/trend that has happened a lot at GTPlanet that a lot of members do come on and think they have the latest info when it has already been posted on here. It was the same when I joined here when GT4 was out, 1 million questions about the same issues but people had already finished the game and provided walk-throughs, etc.

Skip forward 4 years and it's now the same in the GT5 section, 1 million questions about what's going to happen whenever another games convention comes up and we all dissect the information with a scalpel whenever it comes, and I can promise you that within a month of GT5's release you will more than likely see some helpful members and mods provide full walk-through's, tuning guides, car setups and things of that nature to help all the people out with going through the game quickly and enjoyably.

I think all of us long-term members understand each others frustrations about what's going on here but it's also a case of a lot of people being trigger happy basically and posting before searching, and also of not reading the AUP fully, just scrolling through the rules quickly and hitting accept before they become a member.

Just another 5c from me.

*added bit* Just read Giles' post aswell, totally agree with everything said there too. It's impossible to stop the trigger happy people.

 

[the Interceptor]

never mind that he actually operates his own GT forum and contributes mightily to ours as well.

Thanks for the flowers, but I think you're mistaking me for Didi, the owner of the GTRP. I'm just a member there as well as here.

 

[big dani]

Pupik
Meridian




From: Sunshine State Today, 6:18 AM #19

big dani
the Interceptor
I have a question now, so I open a thread here.". That's a bit self-serving, isn't it? Remember you are putting a load on this community with each thread you open. You may think that the load is just tiny, but the next person opens a thread, too, and so does the next one, and the next one, and...
thats exacly what you did here, isnt? my opinion is that this thread is pointless too.. but, i wont make threader about it, like you! every person has right to do what he want, if he has question then he should ask.. so now you come and you will play cop? i am sorry,if i make my self clear, but i would just say my opinion.. and sorry for my grammar mistake and bad english..
Watch your spelling and punctuation, Big guy.

i did say i am sorry for my grammar mistake and bad english.. becouse english is not my lenguage..