A Mitsubishi Starion Is Reportedly Coming to... the "Next Gran Turismo"

I think it's misunderstanding, possibly coming to GT Sport in an update later I guess

After the hate they got for Sport I wouldn't be surprised if they were getting a head start on a very ambitious and expansive car list for the next game in the series even if it's a year or two away.
 
Just a comparison for the cars with flared fenders. I love the '80s
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Ah okay weird. I didn't know the Charger and Daytona were different models.

Charger and it's Plymouth twin Turismo were 2dr cars based off of the Dodge Omni & Plymouth Horizon 4drs and I think they came out in 1979. The Dodge version was called 024 until 1983 when it became the Charger.

The Dodge Daytona and it's Chrysler Laser twin came out in 1984 and they were bigger than the Charger/Tursimo models.
 
Just a comparison for the cars with flared fenders. I love the '80s
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We already have two, now we need the Starion, the 944 and the Quattro as well! Also add the 22B STi and Escort RS Cosworth to that list and the AMG Hammer is one that also came to mind.
 
We already have two, now we need the Starion, the 944 and the Quattro as well! Also add the 22B STi and Escort RS Cosworth to that list and the AMG Hammer is one that also came to mind.
The Quattro, 22B(i think it's been posted as having been fully rendered in GT5P(?) and Escort Rally, are Standards that would be awesome fully rendered.
 
I worked for Dodge/Chrysler during this time and I think I had 3 of them for demos that were TSI models and one in 1984 before the TSI's came out. I had a red one and a black one of the TSI's that were 5 speeds and a Maroon one that was automatic. The automatic one was awful. The lower spoilers on the TSI models were very fragile and would break at the slightest contact with anything. I think the '84 model I had was silver with the Technica option package on it that had a digital readout instrument cluster and I think it had the voice warning system that was popular with Chrysler back then.

Cool. I have worked at Ford now for 20 years. What up Union brother.

I haven't seen one of these cars now since the 90's so that tells me they probably were not great quality as you described.
I still would like to find a TSI tucked away in someone's garage that's been forgotten about. I'm sure there are a few around just like that somewhere too.
 
Sure, well aware. Which is why I wrote what I wrote. But it’s not the same, where’s the everyday beaters? ;) What PD did was unique. T10 just try to look cool and follow their footsteps by adding cars PD didn’t, et cetera. :)

As a lucky owner of all Gran Turismo and Forza games my opinion is this.

Forza started to beat GT and in my eyes with Forza 4 they succeeded.

Remember when Kaz said that their won‘t be any damage model in GT because the car manufactors don‘t want it? The same day Forza 4 was shown for the first time and a Ford GT did a flip in that trailer.

And the cars in GT Sports sound finally like real cars because no wonder they hired one the best audio man from Turn 10 ;)
 
As a lucky owner of all Gran Turismo and Forza games my opinion is this.

Forza started to beat GT and in my eyes with Forza 4 they succeeded.

Remember when Kaz said that their won‘t be any damage model in GT because the car manufactors don‘t want it? The same day Forza 4 was shown for the first time and a Ford GT did a flip in that trailer.

And the cars in GT Sports sound finally like real cars because no wonder they hired one the best audio man from Turn 10 ;)
FM4 was an ok game, yes. Played it a lot, but it doesn’t really have the same feel for me, I don’t know what it is. Both are great games(played more than just one Forza game) but the only game from T10/Playground Games must be Horizon 3. It had me playing for longer and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

The Motorsport series were a bit bland and the ABS really annoyed me in all games. Motorsport 2 was okay though, but after playing this it opened my eyes and saw most cars from that game were reused in newer games without major updates. Like the Skyline R32 and Fairlady Z for example. They look like crap in the newer games as well.

Soundwise? I don’t really care that much about sound. I thought GT1 sounded great and unique because it was very GT. :lol:
 
The Motorsport series were a bit bland and the ABS really annoyed me in all games. Motorsport 2 was okay though, but after playing this it opened my eyes and saw most cars from that game were reused in newer games without major updates. Like the Skyline R32 and Fairlady Z for example. They look like crap in the newer games as well.
That's how most games work. The vast majority of cars in GTS were largely unchanged until this most recent iteration, that is a much longer streak. Not that it's an issue, you don't need to completely redesign a car every iteration, as that's the actual goal, to spend less time reworking and spend the right amount of time making it last. Can't really blame them for doing a thing that the game you prefer is doing too.

Don't remember the ABS as far back as FM2, but this whole generation of Forza's has been pretty fluid and easily noticeable to catch. The rumble triggers in the pad make it much easier to notice.

The biggest hurtle I feel they have right now is trying to get an improved lighting system. That alone would do so much for them. They are slow on that front, though.
 
you don't need to completely redesign a car every iteration, as that's the actual goal, to spend less time reworking and spend the right amount of time making it last

Of course not, but when it has obvious flaws to the real car you’d think it at least got updated. Proper bumpers(or lack there of) and correct bulb position in the head- and/or taillights. I could go on and on, but I’lll sum it up: Just the small details that is so annoying to watch when it’s done wrong. :)
 
Of course not, but when it has obvious flaws to the real car you’d think it at least got updated. Proper bumpers(or lack there of) and correct bulb position in the head- and/or taillights. Just the small details that is so annoying to watch when it’s done wrong. :)
Well lets take a look at the game we're talking about in comparison. It took them nearly loosing 80% of their car list to update their own vehicles in such a way and even then, some aren't to the same level as the others. To pretend that because a car of your choosing hasn't had the most love, as if it applies to the whole game, is a bit odd to be honest.
 
Well lets take a look at the game we're talking about in comparison. It took them nearly loosing 80% of their car list to update their own vehicles in such a way and even then, some aren't to the same level as the others. To pretend that because a car of your choosing hasn't had the most love, as if it applies to the whole game, is a bit odd to be honest.
Well take the cars I mentioned as an example. Iconic cars. But they’re off.

Just like the RX-7 in The Crew 2 is the same badly modelled asset from The Crew 1. It’s odd to have a lot of variation in quality. Just as it was odd to use GT3 assets in GT5/6.

Of course it applies to the whole game. It drags the quality down.
 
Well take the cars I mentioned as an example. Iconic cars. But they’re off.
Certianly, but lets also look at what I said. The time frame you gave for the game you prefer was doing the same exact thing, which was reusing assets that were largely unchanged until 2017, with some now not up to par with some of the finer models in GTS. So how was it an issue for that game and not the other? That's all just a bit confusing.

Just like the RX-7 in The Crew 2 is the same badly modelled asset from The Crew 1. It’s odd to have a lot of variation in quality. Just as it was odd to use GT3 assets in GT5/6.
Not odd, as the GT3 assets where from a completely differen generation and they stood out when brought to HD quality. Not necessarily the same thing at all as they don't even stick out even close to as much as GT did. GTS is not immune to its own variation in quality either, so I'm not sure how you can keep going down that route.



Of course it applies to the whole game. It drags the quality down.
That's just absolutely ridiculous. It doesn't apply to the whole game, it applies to that vehicle. In the exact same way I can bring up so many cars that were rendered quite beautifully, so I can that everything in the game is just as good. However, It doesn't work that way, it's a case by case basis and doesn't reflect the quality of the whole game. If that was the case then we can say that there is quality lacking in GTS because some cars just aren't rendered as good as others? No, that would be a stupid thing to say, in my opinion. Now, if it was something like 50-75% of the full vehicle list that is having issues, than I'd understand where you are coming from. a handful of cars out of 700+ vehicles? Yeah, no.

Quality is there, on both games, but both have their misses. I'm just confused as to why you only apply it to one game. I have no issue either way, as both games are beautiful enough throughout the game that it's easy to forgive the very minor inconsistencies they have.
 
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Potato potato, let’s just agree to disagree. :)

I didn’t apply it to one game only. And I enjoy most stuff in those games as well so don’t think I’m a hater on certain games / elements. That’s not the case.
 
Potato potato, let’s just agree to disagree. :)

I didn’t apply it to one game only. And I enjoy most stuff in those games as well so don’t think I’m a hater on certain games / elements. That’s not the case.
Not really. Just pointing out that the thing your holding against the game was not alone in what you said it's doing, as the game it was being compared to does that as well. It would just be nice to see people apply that balance once in a while.
 
Not really. Just pointing out that the thing your holding against the game was not alone in what you said it's doing, as the game it was being compared to does that as well. It would just be nice to see people apply that balance once in a while.
To go back to the roots of what I said - I thought FM felt bland to me because of how the gameplay was, the graphics didn’t help but it wasn’t my main point. I just added it to the discussion.

I’m not sure what you’re trying to add to that discussion as it isn’t about my original comment anymore.
 
To go back to the roots of what I said - I thought FM felt bland to me because of how the gameplay was, the graphics didn’t help but it wasn’t my main point. I just added it to the discussion.

I’m not sure what you’re trying to add to that discussion as it isn’t about my original comment anymore.
Your original point also included a statement about a game doing something, and that also being a reason you're not too fond of it, and that's why I pointed out that the game its being compared to is also doing the same thing. That is what I responded to, to point out that while you are correct in saying that, I don't really agree with the point that you're putting forth as it applies to both games, not just the one.

I'm adding onto the discussion that you yourself started, and very much is about your original response. so if you're lost on something that you initiated, than maybe you should just stop there.
 
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not bad tbh for the car but thinking more modern cars?? or at least announcing a upcoming update (i don't know much if there's a upcoming new update of GTS)
 
To be honest, I'd prefer more older vehicles, especially from this decade as well. Late 80's/early 90's had a bunch of amazing cars.
total agree honestly but you know if i say alfa romeo giulia or the corvette C8 they are exciting cars (at least for me)

also 80's cars are good "starter" racing cars
 
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To be honest, I'd prefer more older vehicles, especially from this decade as well. Late 80's/early 90's had a bunch of amazing cars.

I prefer cars from this era over any new car any day, except a few. The Giulia is the best looking car Alfa has made in years..

Edit: by this era I meant 80’s / early 90’s like you said. I don’t know if that was clear. I didn’t understand that when I read my comment just now. Silly me.
 
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