A-Spec points: myths and truths

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I REALLY need someone to answer this question, preferably somebody with the game.

Does the system calculate how many points you earn based on power (or power:weight ratio) or does it also account for suspension and drivetrain modifications? Does the tire choice also affect the payout?
 
8400RPM
You can only get the points in each race once, unless you better your previoius score later and then it will only add the addtional points greater that you achieved. So the total spec points one can get will be the ultimate bragging rights.
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Hyde
say u enter the race with 200 points, and u go back again, u'll get another 200 points.

some people were saying they were playing for 300 game days and still couldnt unlock hong kong track, while i unlocked it within 100 days.
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These two statements are opposed to each other. One of them is incorrect. Can we get this clarified? I feel the answer makes a fairly significant difference in how much fun the point system may actually be.
 
Hyde
i get 200 points for trying to use a Honda Beat to race against the Bentley Lemans car

and i get 200 point using a stock G35 to race in All Japan cup which consist R34 GTR, NSX, WRX STi and still manage to win easily
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.star.
a stock g35 skyline against jgtc cars? what "hall" or whatever was this in?
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Ronnn
a stock G35 can beat those cars?
those cars in stock form, it may possible
but i doubt All Japan Cup cars are in stock
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Guys re-read his post, he never mentioned JGTC, he never mentioned the All Japan GT championship either. He said "a stock G35 to race in All Japan cup which consist R34 GTR, NSX, WRX STi", these are road cars not race cars.
 
mclaren777
Do you know if the margin of victory effects the payout?
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no, it's what car you use thats all.

Messiah
Does the game tell you how to get the maximum number of points for a given race? Like telling you what kind of cars to use?

Sounds like a very similar system to that used in Project Gotham Racing.
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To get the maximum points you use the least powerful car in GT4 in the race, you won't win but it will offer you the most points.
 
live4speed
no, it's what car you use thats all.


To get the maximum points you use the least powerful car in GT4 in the race, you won't win but it will offer you the most points.
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So if you drive a Lupo in a race against Subaru's and Skyline's you will not win at all but you will get alot a-spec points? And after that you can race that race it with the car you like and go for the first place.
 
No if you don't win you don't get any points, what I meant was to get the most points theoretically you'd have to win every race in one of thoes ancient cars like the Benz patent wagon or so on to get the most points in the game, but then you won't win the races in thoes so you have to see how far your willing to push powerwise. Bad wording sorry.
 
live4speed
To get the maximum points you use the least powerful car in GT4 in the race, you won't win but it will offer you the most points.
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So it only matter that it's the lowest but other than that it should matter?

Example:

All five opponents have 250hp. If you enter and win with a 190-hp car you'll win maximum points. And if you win with a 220-hp car you will still get max points.

Is that right?
 
No, it's the power of your car, if your car has 200Bhp and the AI are using 250Bhp cars youll get say 80pts, the less powerful car you use, the more points you get, so to get the most points available you'd have to use the least powerful car in GT4, in every race which is one of thoes really old ones that has less than 1Bhp. But your not going to win in one of thoes so your not going to get the maximum points.
 
live4speed
No, it's the power of your car, if your car has 200Bhp and the AI are using 250Bhp cars youll get say 80pts, the less powerful car you use, the more points you get, so to get the most points available you'd have to use the least powerful car in GT4, in every race which is one of thoes really old ones that has less than 1Bhp. But your not going to win in one of thoes so your not going to get the maximum points.
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Sorry, I'm still missing something... :dunce:

If you're racing a car with 200hp, but it weighs only 1400 pounds / 680kg (not sure which you use, Live4Speed) and the other cars have 250hp and weigh 3500 pounds / 1600kg, wouldn't the less-powerful 200hp car be at an advantage and thus win a race more easily and get less points? Or is it solely based on horsepower? :confused: :confused:
 
It doesn't always relate directly to power...

I've entered the same race with two different cars that had HP numbers that were about +/- 10 away from each other.. one race offered me 8 points, the other was around 30..

I've also entered a race that offered me 10 points.. I then went and lowered the car and tightened the suspension (nothing more), and it offered me about 7 points..

And, yes, I'm quite sure that you can win the points more than once.. I went back to the RX-8 cup because it's a relatively short circuit, and you win the 11M credit RX-8 race car.. each time I went back, I was offered A-spec points for the race..
 
MrktMkr1986
Sorry, I'm still missing something... :dunce:

If you're racing a car with 200hp, but it weighs only 1400 pounds / 680kg (not sure which you use, Live4Speed) and the other cars have 250hp and weigh 3500 pounds / 1600kg, wouldn't the less-powerful 200hp car be at an advantage and thus win a race more easily and get less points? Or is it solely based on horsepower? :confused: :confused:
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I'm not 100% sure if it's Bhp of power/weight I've not had much time with the game, but the 1/2Bhp cars would give you most points possible, IF you could win in them, however I doubt that you ever could beat an 80's Civic let alone a C9 or Speed 8.

As for getting the points more than once, your offered a number of points before every race, however if the number you get is less than the most youve won on that track I don't tink it adds any to your game total, might be wrong but I didn't notice.
 
erab610
I went back to the RX-8 cup because it's a relatively short circuit, and you win the 11M credit RX-8 race car.. each time I went back, I was offered A-spec points for the race..
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I'm guessing you're forced to enter that race with an RX-8, but was it pretty easy or did your car have a ton of money put into it?
 
mclaren777
I'm guessing you're forced to enter that race with an RX-8, but was it pretty easy or did your car have a ton of money put into it?
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yeah, RX-8's only..

I didn't dump a ton of money into it, but I did put on an exhaust, flywheel, chip, 2 levels of weight reduction, and a stage 1 turbo.. looking back, I could've gotten away with less, but it was the last race I had to do to get to 25%... so I wanted it done rather quickly.. :)

of course, once you win the RX-8 race car, you can enter that into the race and pick up some cash pretty quickly and easily.. The reason I made the original post is because I remember quite clearly re-entering with the race car, and only being awarded 1 A-spec per race.. The first time through, with the regular RX-8, it was about 7 a race.
 
Lethalchem
These two statements are opposed to each other. One of them is incorrect. Can we get this clarified? I feel the answer makes a fairly significant difference in how much fun the point system may actually be.
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one have the game and one does not
 
speaking of a-spec points I did a race with 198 a spec points using a Civic type R stock vs a bunch of BMW M3s and NSX's on trail mountain and still kick their little @$$

maybe the track isn't very good for heavy cars like BMWs but they really did suck on that track
 
WhiteSW20
speaking of a-spec points I did a race with 198 a spec points using a Civic type R stock vs a bunch of BMW M3s and NSX's on trail mountain and still kick their little @$$

maybe the track isn't very good for heavy cars like BMWs but they really did suck on that track
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How many seconds away were you from 2nd place (if you can remember)? Because the Civic Type-R has about 90 and 130 horsepower less than an Acura NSX and BMW M3 respectively.
 
I'm just curious, do you get less points for going off course, or say bumping into another car? This explains, maybe, why some are getting less points that others when they use the same car.
 
Solid Lifters
I'm just curious, do you get less points for going off course, or say bumping into another car?
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The number of A-Spec points a race is worth is defined before a race starts so it must be based on some sort of horsepower or mods comparison between you and the field. Destroying the hard work of the gardeners or roughing up the other cars doesn't have any effect. You can cut the corners as much as you like, slam other cars off the track and get the same A-Spec points you would have if you had driven politely.
 
justin_tyme
what race was that, mixing M3s and NSXs?
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the professional hall NA races

and no I didn't bang the AI cars out of the way

and 2nd place was an M3 which was far enough behind I can see a gap on the track map I'd say around 2 seconds
 
i used the Amuse S2000 in that NA race, i got around 170 points and i manage to kill all those Corvette, M3, NSX easily at east 5-8 second lead at the end
 
Let's try to finalize this: (correct me if i'm wrong)
The a-spec points are evaluated with consideration to power to weight ratios, modifications, tires, etc. The faster/better handling this a-spec system thinks your car perform against your opponent cars, you will earn less points. For example, if you use a JGTC car to race in a stock car race, you will only win one a-spec point. How many points will you earn is given to you at the beginning of each race, you don't lose points for bumping into the wall or crashing into your opponents. A-spec points so far are only considered an evaluation for self gratificaiton, so far it doesn't prove to unlock any hidden cars/tracks.
 
It still seems that no one knows how exactly the point system works. I'm still confused and would like to know why there seem to be inconsistency with the points system. For example, why does the same car get two different amount of points rewarded when nothing is different between the two? Anybody with some new info about it please contribute.
 
The points change also based on the opponents roster, that is why you will have a different score upon exiting/entering the same race with the same car.

We have, nevertheless, ruled out the possibily that points unlock anything thus far. All the unlocking is related to days passing in sim mode. I'm now convinced the point system is, well, just that.
 
Does the game take your best points haul from each race to go towards the total? So if you do a race again and less points you don't lose some? Like how Kudos points are calculated in PGR2?
 
anything you do to increase the performance of your car will decrease your A-spec points. changing from S tires to R tyres lowers points on average 3 to 10. which is nothing in a 250 point race.
 

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