A-Spec points: myths and truths

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I'm not sure that's true... I watched a video of a mission race on Lemans for 250 points... It's one of the main GTP downloads?!

C.
 
sukebe
One more thing: If you clear a section, win a crazy car, then accidently sell it, you have an option to go back and 'un-clear' the section. Then win it again and you get the car back. I did that with some 700hp cadillac monstrosity on some rally run (sorry, cant remember the names)
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If you "un-clear" a section in order to re-win a certain car, does it remove previously won A-spec points from your total then?
 
RallyRacingFan, I've just checked, if you enter the Mission Hall first mission, The Pass, it is two identical Fiat 500r's and you get 250 points if you win, so I was taking all my early races with that in mind, thinking if I got in a race were all the cars I raced against and mine were only about 10 HP difference I would get around 250 points per race, but it's not that simple, and as you said, now I come to think about it I can't remember any race in the other halls that's got me more than 200 points, so the Mission Hall may give more points?

Taneras, I don't know about when you get to 100%, but at the moment you can go to any of the races you have already done, andre-race them as many times as you wont, but you will now get any more A-Spec points unless you beat your old tally.

So say you entired a race and won 50 points, then went into the same race and won 70 points, you will only get the extra 20 points added to your total.

Barbol and Lethalchem, no re-doing the championship/races again only wipes you cups and times I think, it keeps your A-Spec points and Comp %.
 
can someone answer Messiah's qestion?

if for example you gain 100%, 50000 A-spec points and 0 B-spec, can you go through all the races, just to get B-spec points (although B-spec is not the option i am gonna use, but...)

and if there really is some limit (max 200pts pre race), then you don't need to race the 1886 wagens just to get max A-spec points possible, right?you just need a car, that will give you 200pts

and one more. that subaru 360 race is worth 55pts. so that means that 55 is the limit, i mean, if the race is for subarus only, you can't get anyother car, so you can't get more than 55pts?
 
lnasphinx
and one more. that subaru 360 race is worth 55pts. so that means that 55 is the limit, i mean, if the race is for subarus only, you can't get anyother car, so you can't get more than 55pts?
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You could theoretically handicap your car by adding weight Tune screen (page two). That should boost the number of A-Spec points you could get for the race. Not tested.
 
Hey guys, I am new to the GTP community (actually I did my first two or three posts in a GT3 thread). I don't have the game yet, so I can only speculate. But this idea suddenly came into my mind and I thought about sharing it. So here it goes.

I think, as many people here have already stated, that the points only measure somebody's "bragging rights"... lol, just as much as how many golds somebody gets in the various licences (they may also unlock new cars/tracks, but I can't tell yet, and reading this post I couldn't come to a definitive conclusion about this aspect). So, say two people complete the game and are both at 100%, the only thing making one of the two "a better driver" would be his/her points. Nothing new up to here. Now, since (from what I understand) there are A-Spec and B-Spec points, I think B-Spec points are worth "less" than A-Spec. Let me explain (and here is where my idea really lies): B-Spec points, to use a comparison, are like the IA licence, while A-Spec points are like the S licence. (I know it doesn't make any sense, yet, but please bare with me a little longer before coming to conclusions). Now, you know that if you get a licence in GT3 that is higher than the one you currently have, it "replaces" it in your stat screen? (For example, you could have IB and R licence, but then if you get IA, and the status screen would then show IA and R, basically "replacing" IB) - (I know a "higher" licence does not EXACTLY replace the "lower" one, but, being "higher", I think it is comprehensive, and so an S licence technically counts for itself, plus all the other previous licences).

Now, coming to conclusions and cutting it short, I think if you run a race in B-Spec, you get points that obviously count toward your B-Spec total, but if you re-run it in A-Spec, then those points that you won earlier are removed from the B-Spec total and transferred to your A-Spec total.

For example, say you have 0 A-Spec and 0 B-Spec points. You run a race in B-Spec and you win 100 points. So now you have 0 A-Spec and 100 B-Spec. Now say you re-run the same race, only this time in A-Spec. You win it, and 100 points are added to your A-Spec (but removed from your B-Spec, because this time YOU actually run the race yourself). So now it would look like this: A-Spec: 100; B-Spec: 0. In other words, I think that the "ultimate bragging rights" of somebody that has 100% game completion, A-Spec: 100,000, B-Spec: 0 would be higher than the "ultimate bragging rights" of somebody that has 100% game completion, A-Spec: 80,000, B-Spec: 20,000, because it would mean that the first person run all the races himself/herself, whether the second person had the B-Spec feature run some of the races for him/her. Makes sense? I don't know... just my humble 2 cents, as I don't have the game yet and I can only speculate... unfortunatly I cannot try it myself (yet)...

If somebody can test this and see if it works, I would gladly appreciate it. Take note of your current A-Spec and B-Spec totals, run a race in B-Spec, retake note of the new totals, now run it again in A-Spec with the same car (and same status for that car), and see if the B-Spec total goes back to the original one, and the points are transferred to your A-Spec total.

To summarize all this, I just think the B-Spec points are there as a measure of races that you don't drive yourself (it basically measure how lazy you are... lol), while the A-Spec measures the ones that you actually DO race (replacing the B-Spec points for a given race, if you eventually decide to re-run it later in A-Spec).

I know it's a lot of stuff to read and it probably doesn't make much sense (it's easy for me to see it, of course, as I came up with the idea, but it's hard to word it in such a way to make it make sense... sorry, but English is not my primary lanquage...)

Thank you for your time, and please warn me if I need to put my flamesuit on... lol.

The Wizard.
 
where can you download this game from the internet if anyone could tell me i really would appriciate it
 
appie17
where can you download this game from the internet if anyone could tell me i really would appriciate it
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I dont know what forums you usually go too, but thats not a question you ask on this forum. Piracy is bad!
 
VIPERGTSR01
I dont know what forums you usually go too, but thats not a question you ask on this forum.
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Nor is it one that will get you any answer other than a message from a member of the Mod Squad.
 
In answer to TheWizard's question.

Although I agree with you in principle that A-Spec points are worth more than B-Spec points for bragging rights, one does not replace the other.

Unless the game locks all events at 100% (which it NEVER has in the past so I can't see it doing this time) you could do all the races in A-Spec, get 100%, then do all the races again in B-Spec and get two completely different amounts, but one will NOT effect the other as far as I know.

Am I right in thinking that not all races/events have the B-Spec option?

But if I'm right you will never be able to gain as many B-Spec Points as A-Spec points, if there are races/events that can't be raced in B-Spec.

Oh! And one other thing, I never noticed, I've played almost all A-Spec in GT Mode races, do you still get A/B-Spec points in Arcade mode, I'll have to look at that? I've only ventured into Arcade mode when I first put the disc in for a quick go of a certain German track, and to play two player battle on the weekend.
 
A-Spec points really need some tuning.
I am now running the Dream Car Championship in Extreme Hall with an M3 GTR with stage 3 turbo (which brings it to 589PS) and R3 tires. The silly game awards me 93 points each race, which is a hefty amount by my standards, while I smoke the competition with ease.

Furthermore, I think there should be an option to match a car in your garage to an amount range of A-Spec points you decide: for example you would tell the game you want about 100 points for a race and the game would pick the right car from your garage. This would spare me the lenghty process of finding the 'right' car for every race (try a car/get 1 point/exit-try another car/get 200 points/exit-repeat-etc).
 
For me that is the idea of the game now, to find the right car for the job at hand, namely getting as close as possible to the 200 point max.

But you are right, justin tyme, I've done the Wet race in the special condition hall today, against the likes of the Mercedes C9 Race Car and the Mazda 787B Race Car, and I was in a second hand Subaru Impreza WRX STi Sedan, it was kitted out with all the best bits and stage 3 turbo, but I still made 200 points, the race was easy.

Oh! I can't remember who asked the question, but I checked out the weight idea somebody had eariler in this thread, and it worked, I entered a race with no weight added and got about 147 points, same race, same opposition, but with all of the 200 kgs of ballast and I got 176 points for the race, with nothing else changed, sooo... If you are ever close to the 200 points and just want to get that last couple of points, just add some weight.

I suppose this means a couple of things for while thinking about going for the most points, don't weight reduce the car, and the power and weight of your car must definitely be take into account by the game while calculating your points.

I'm begining to think more and more that it's the same criteria as Arcade mode, power/weight/tyres, it has to be. Nothing else seems to make a difference at all.
 
Plopper
...you could do all the races in A-Spec, get 100%, then do all the races again in B-Spec and get two completely different amounts, but one will NOT effect the other as far as I know.
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I see, so basically running the races ONLY in A-Spec doesn't have any real advantage to running them in A-Spec AND B-Spec, as the "ultimate bragging rights" of somebody that takes the time in running races twice (once in A-Spec and once in B-Spec) will be higher than somebody that only runs them in A-Spec.

In other words:

A-Spec: 100,000 B-Spec: 100,000 > A-Spec: 100,000 B-Spec: 0

I thought that my idea might have worked, as it would have made sense for an incentive on running the races yourself over using B-Spec... but this works even better as an incentive to play the game longer, because you will be running all the races (or at least the ones in which you can do it) both in A-Spec and B-Spec in order to collect the maximum amount of points possible and have the maximum "ultimate bragging rights"... lol!

The Wizard.
 
Sort of TheWizard, but you do get two completely different listings for both set of points, so on your game status screen it shows one figure for A-Spec points and one for B-Spec points, I have tried a B-Spec race, and failed? So my screen shows 11,000 odd A-Spec points and o B-Spec points. To me the harder of the two seems to be B-Spec, but that's only because I've only played it once/twice and I kept telling the driver to push, push, push, like I would in a race, and the bugger kept running off, like I do in a race. :dunce:

Hope that helps.
 
Plopper
To me the harder of the two seems to be B-Spec, but that's only because I've only played it once/twice and I kept telling the driver to push, push, push, like I would in a race, and the bugger kept running off, like I do in a race.
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I have read somewhere around in this forum that you can train the B-Spec AI to drive better (by racing more while in B-Spec mode). So, the only workaround to this is keep racing and eventually you should be able to win and start collecting points.

The Wizard.
 
Plopper
Oh! right thanks for that TheWizard, so if I keep racing with the AI driver, he'll get better than me, GREAT :grumpy: :grumpy: :grumpy:
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:lol:

Sorry, no implications of that sort in my previous post... but that was hilarious. lol!

:sly:

The Wizard.
 
I will get around to doing B-Spec, but I want to leave it for the UK version of the game, as I can't understand any Japanese, most of the time I can't even tell which car is which in my garage listing unless I notice a STi here or a T.M.E. Edition their. So I can't really tell that much about B-Spec, but I really want A-Spec sorted out in my mind at least for when the game hits the UK. So I'm going to keep coming here and trying to sort things out in my own mind.
 
justin_tyme
This would spare me the lenghty process of finding the 'right' car for every race (try a car/get 1 point/exit-try another car/get 200 points/exit-repeat-etc).
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If you have a list of the 'right' car for each race I would LOVE to see it as I am facing the exact same problem. Enter race, offered 120pts, drive race and get killed on high-speed track. Enter next race in same series with same car, offered 120pts again and win easily on low speed track.

We need to make a list saying, if you enter this race with this car you will be offered x A-Spec pts and the race should be winnable.
 
I don't have a list because I don't keep track of what I do while I play. I can offer you a tip about the latest championship I won, though, the British GT racer (2nd race in the Euro hall).

I bought a standard Lotus Esprit, applied stage-1 weight reduction, EPROM chip upgrade, stage-1 muffler and NOS. I entered the championship using the supplied Sport-2 tires and was awarded 164 A-Spec points for each win. Very tight race, had to look out for another Esprit (the silver special version) and a mean, black TVR, but still I could win them all by driving clean and sharp. Gaps on the finish line were always under half a second. Possibly the closest and most challenging champ I had so far in the game, very nice. Plus you get an amazing prize car. Give it a shot.
 
I know one thing for sure now, their are going to be a lot of people with high A-Spec points and a lot of people with a high percentage score, but not many with both?

I have just hit 25% - 15,944 A-Spec points - 587 days - 56.5% win rate???

Usually I am somewhere in the high ninties for win rate, but while trying to find a good car for points it's really hard to get a race win first time with more than 60 points. For good points (120+) you have to really try hard to find just the right car, and usually fail, ending up with far too powerful or to slow a car, resaulting in a re-race either way, because of a loss if the car wasn't good enough, or usually because you scored 10 points.

But I do like the points system more and more. The only thing I would have liked to see was a points display on the race menu in the Halls, you know something to say (within a range) how many points you are likely to get if you enter the race/championship with the car you are in at the time.
 
Plopper
Oh! I can't remember who asked the question, but I checked out the weight idea somebody had eariler in this thread, and it worked, I entered a race with no weight added and got about 147 points, same race, same opposition, but with all of the 200 kgs of ballast and I got 176 points for the race, with nothing else changed, sooo... If you are ever close to the 200 points and just want to get that last couple of points, just add some weight.
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Wow, you can add weight to your car. I never knew that. Cool feature. I'm sure it will come in handy to help me earn as many points as possible.
 
F310B, yes it is hard to get 200 points with the cars you have, if you had all the cars in the game and could pick and choose then it may be easier, but I've just done the first couple of races in the Super Car Cup in Pro Hall, for cars over 500 HP, I used the '99 GTS Viper with a couple of bits on to make it about 507 hp. Got me 135 points I think, I was up against C12s, R390s and Ford GTs, OK, but the lead car was the Cadillac Cien '02, 750 hp, he was beating me by 5 seconds a lap??? And I was using NOS!!! By the time I had a car fast enough to beat it (without NOS) I had 57 points??? And only just beat him.

OK you say just use a Ford GT or the Cadillac Cien '02 against the other one, big problem, you can't, only normal cars allowed, so how can you beat a 750 hp car with a 500 hp car that will still only get you 135 points, and get 200 points???

Sorry F310B, I'm not mad at you, just the game/PD, they are doing the same thing they did with GT2, namely put you up against cars that shouldn't be allowed in the race, anybody remember the dated race around Grindelwald??? It had a car way out of the period was allowed that would walk all over you in any car you were allowed to enter with.

Solid Lifters you can not only add weight you can move it about as ballast (SPELLING???) to improver the feel of the car.
 

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