Hi, new here (well, new again, I had been here before, but can't remember my username, or email address used lol).
Saw this thread and found it interesting.
Aside from personal preferences, what is "realistic"? What I mean is, in modern Chryslers, you can't (from what I've heard), turn of TCS completely. And other cars, like the GTR and ZR1 are built around it. Even the Z06 has a race mode for it's TCS.
(I say "TCS" as an all encompassing term, it's all based around the ABS system in the car, just with additional sensors to provide additional functionality, like TCS, ESC, EBFD, and so on)
In old cars, it's easy, I just turn it off, because it wasn't there IRL (such as the Cobra or F40 or Mach 1 Mustang). But if I want ti emulate the real cars, where should it be set for cars that do have it? And for that matter, what about variances from car to car?
Yes, I could pretend to just have ripped the system out, were I to be actually owning and driving said car. But, I really wouldn't. It does make you faster IRL, no matter what people may say. Taking it out is about saving the last 10th of weight (right after that is when you get into cutting down bolt lengths and such), or about race regulations. There's a reason it was present in F1 until the FIA banned it.
Speaking of which, someone mentioned that turning it off makes the cars faster. Perhaps in GT5.... I can't really argue that point, but as I said, IRL, it absolutely makes a car faster to have it on. The best proof of that is the R35 GTR. Following that would be the ZR1. Or a video like this -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZOP4Raindw (when you see the final, side by side superimposition, you see that with Stabilitrac on, not only is it more controlled, but it reaches the end of the frame sooner, ie, faster)
I just wish there was some way to get feel, because using the sticks on the DS3 (all I can afford), there is just no feel in brakes at all, so it's artificially difficult to get the most out of a vehicle. I guess that is an argument for using ABS/TCS even on older cars that don't have it, simply have the program help out to achieve what you would be able to if you had all the sensory input you would actually have if you were doing it for real. ....but I digress.
), you took the words right out of my mouth. I was just thinking about this thread tonight after doing the 2nd Top Gear Special Event. It was quite simply impossible to do without ABS and TCS on. Even though I could feel the TCS kicking in (like I do in my real car), it still let me win, where without it, I couldn't do better than 9th. On that test, the other Elise 111r's just shoot off like rockets after a corner. I can catch and pass them with careful braking, but if I keep the tail in check, they leave me in the dust, if I add power, even the least amount, I'm sideways. Without TCS/ABS, that car can't even use steady state power through a fast corner (like the follow through or the one after that). This goes back to my earlier post where I mentioned that such aids DO in fact make a car/driver (combo) faster, at least IRL, and, so it seems, in GT5 as well, despite some notions to the contrary.
