Adelaide '94 and Jerez '97?

[m7ammed]

What happened ? everybody is referring to it in the Monaco thread...

 

[Greycap]

Adelaide 1994: The last race of the season. Michael Schumacher and Damon Hill raced for the championship, Schumacher leading by one point. When Hill tried to pass Schumacher, MS turned his Benetton right into the side of Hill's Williams, busting the suspension of Hill's car. Schumacher won the championship by that one point as they both retired.

Jerez 1997: The last race of the season. M. Schumacher and Jacques Villeneuve raced for the championship, Schumacher leading by a very small difference (one or two points or so, I don't remember exactly). When Villeneuve tried to pass him, Schumacher turned his Ferrari right into the side of Villeneuve's Williams, trying to repeat the move he had made three years earlier. But this time he missed, hitting only the fuselage of Villeneuve's car and driving out of the track. Villeneuve nursed his car over the finish line, taking the championship.

Referrals to these cases are made because M. Schumacher has used filthy tactics earlier too, the Monaco incident wasn't the first one. In these situations he hasn't been able to win by fair game, so he has tried to win by rude means.

- R -

 

[Mr. Boy]

You'd think he'd be over with that kinda stuff, wouldn't you?

 

[Z]

Here's a video of Adelaide '94. Commentary by Murray Walker.



And Jerez:

 

[nenad2]

schumis reputation as the best driver of all times will never earn him that cred from me. i think he cares not about that as no apology has been offered.

there a re alot of matters here:

1 sportsmanlike conduct. thats my nr 1 criteria. nothing short of an excuse and to give his title up freely would get him his reputation back. ( hill )

2 he has done it 2 so he cant get away with bad excuses. repeatedly shown bad choices with no existence of empathy for others.

3 a fast paced driver with a will and determination to race fast as well. ( senna )

4 team orders are bad for the sport and ferrari does it all the time, again and again without remorse.

and thats all there is to it. nobody can doubt that he is a cheat and wants to win at all costs.

he is a very sad character.

/nenad

 

[Blake]

Wow, dude.

Team orders have been a part of F1 since 1950. Ferrari didn’t invent them, and Ferrari aren’t the only team that used them.

Senna drove into Prost to win the title before, but you seem to hold him up high (I don’t know, you’re typing is hard to read). What makes him different from Schumacher?

 

[Small_Fryz]

Honestly in 15 - 20 years none of this will really matter.

 

[Kylehnat]

I wouldn't call Schumacher a cheat. He's done some dirty things, and a few of his wins came with gift wrap and a card, but his success is deserved. And name me a driver who hasn't done anything "sneaky" in his career?

 

[mipuumal]

Wow, dude.

Team orders have been a part of F1 since 1950. Ferrari didn’t invent them, and Ferrari aren’t the only team that used them.

Senna drove into Prost to win the title before, but you seem to hold him up high (I don’t know, you’re typing is hard to read). What makes him different from Schumacher?

Senna did it because Prost did it to him the year before.

I wouldn't call Schumacher a cheat. He's done some dirty things, and a few of his wins came with gift wrap and a card, but his success is deserved. And name me a driver who hasn't done anything "sneaky" in his career?

If Alonso rammed in to Schumacher after hitting a wall and damaging his car in the season finale while leading by one point, you would be up in arms. Also Schumacher has been gifted nearly 10 victories by Barrichello.

 

[nenad2]

these all statements matters not to me. anyone that learns to abuse every aspect of the rules in f1 and makes FIA come up with new to stop him is a "wanker". so was senna and prost for hitting each other.

however there is something called a race incident and something that is called cheating for me. to me it is clear without a doubt that FIA should have been much stronger in their declaring of how and when people can win f1. this however does not take away blame on shchumis part.

i still think he is the best driver of all times but hes not the one that i look up to as a great driver/person/etc and so on. its very unfortunate that such filosophies to racing and life can make him a formula 1 world champion without having to change.

/nenad