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Hey guys, guess what! I managed to take out 2 nuns and a nice young lady pushing a stroller! I must've linked like 4 turns! **** you moron!
 
Originally posted by cmetom
awesome pics - thanks!!


That is really cool, I expect a good performance out of those two. I did in GT3 and Sega GT 2002, and they were really good starting out autos, so expect me to give them a run once in a while.
 
I am still very sure you will see the Trueno and Levin in GT4. Now I'm going to get into the drifting deal a little more. Now as we know, street racing is highly illegal. Anyone who's seen "The Fast and the Furious" (or its sequel), "Initial D," or played "Tokyo Xtreme Racer (any one)" knows what doing that in real life leads to. It leads to crashes, fatalities, injuries, and rising insurance costs. Now going back to ID (Initial D). I remember watching the series on DVD. I seen the first 9 episodes of the first season. And I know drifting doesn't make you a Michael Scumacher or Derek Bell. But it has been more of appeal that makes these drifters heroes and heroines (girls can race too, you know). And the reason why these drifters can do such a thing is because they are trained, talented, and have veteran experience to boot. How the AE86 (or in Initial D, "the 86") is a hot topic to this thread comes from how the Trueno was a hot car in Initial D. Nevermind the car's capability compared to the Skyline or the RX-7. It could race down Akina and slide and drive so well because of its settings and the caliber of the driver. When a car gets to be popular, the benefactors are the car company it's made from, and the media. Think about the Mini Cooper in the Italian Job. Think about the VW Beetle from Car 53 (or "Car 54" maybe?). The AE86 is no different from any of these. Oh, and what about all the Aston Martins from the James Bond movies? The car has marketability. And as long as a car can back up its status like in the mass media, it will sell. The popularity will make it into more media and even some car clubs devoted to that specific machine.

Now when it comes to the young generation, I'm going to take a chance here. Especially in America, some people think that young people take non-American compacts and imports and American compacts and drive them as hard as in the media. And they also like to think that the people who mod these cars out with trick car parts and flashy graphics are just trying to get attention. Cars like the AE86 are just cars. I mean, come on. The same person would say "Well, I have a Mustang in my garage, and I leave my racing to the strip, not on the streets trying to get attention." Personally, I don't think drifting is safe, but I cannot stop those who choose to do so anyways. People can take their cars out to short road courses and some abandoned areas and slide them out like it's nothing. I'm only 21 years old (and believe it or not, I don't know how to drive in real life. I've practiced, but, anyhow, moving on).. yeah, 21 years old, and I get sick and tired of people who bash on those who like dressing up their cars to be shows on wheels. I think some people already KNOW that their car isn't as powerful as it looks. Car modding is a form of expression, and isn't that one of the pieces mentioned in the 1st Amendment of the Constitution? I say let them be. They are only "kids." Just because they don't like to drive Mustangs and listen to 1980s rock music doesn't mean that they should be hated on. One time on AOL, I talked about the Toyota Supra, and someone bursted in saying "Isn't the Toyota Supra an expensive piece of junk?" People are free to choose whatever car they like much the same way as people decide what to eat for breatfast, what clothes they can wear, where in town they want to drive to. So if a young folk wants to see an AE86 in Gran Tursimo 4, damn it, let them have the AE86, no questions asked, no crap, and getting that car in the game is almost a guarantee. 80% or more worth.

In any event, drifting should be done on the track, not the streets. It's for fun, not for serious racing. And as I said, I took a chance, so I apologize if my topic and choice of words were too extreme. Just wanted to prove a point. Well, let's keep the topic going.
 
Originally posted by battle_stage
Hey guys, guess what! I managed to take out 2 nuns and a nice young lady pushing a stroller! I must've linked like 4 turns! **** you moron!

Woah! That's 400 points each for the nuns, 200 for the young lady and 1000 for the baby. 2000 points! Not bad.

EDIT: Oh and while we are on this Japanese road thing. Am I the only one sad when I found out the Japanese WRC stage this season is a gravel rally? It would of been awesome to see a tarmac rally on Japanese mountain passes.

Bloody gravel. :mad:
 
EDIT: Oh and while we are on this Japanese road thing. Am I the only one sad when I found out the Japanese WRC stage this season is a gravel rally? It would of been awesome to see a tarmac rally on Japanese mountain passes.

Bloody gravel.

In the next BMI Petter Solberg takes his WRC car for a run on the Gansei touge, then he takes a stock WRX STi Spec C around the touge too. Should be neat to watch.
 
Originally posted by l33tc4k30fd00m
Woah! That's 400 points each for the nuns, 200 for the young lady and 1000 for the baby. 2000 points! Not bad.

EDIT: Oh and while we are on this Japanese road thing. Am I the only one sad when I found out the Japanese WRC stage this season is a gravel rally? It would of been awesome to see a tarmac rally on Japanese mountain passes.

Bloody gravel. :mad:

ya, it seems to be gravel from what i heard/read. i thought it was gonna be tarmac also. im more into the tarmac rallies. the dust turns me off. it makes the people behind drive abit mroe cautiously, and that sometimes makes for a crappy rally.
 
oh ya, and about street racing. ya, i find it stupid. even in japan its dangerous, but i know that SOME TIMES, they have scouts at certain locations/turns to make sure that if someone does start going up/down the mountain, the rest of the people have a headsup. but im guessing they dont do this unless its one of those showoff driftmeets.
 
Originally posted by battle_stage
In the next BMI Petter Solberg takes his WRC car for a run on the Gansei touge, then he takes a stock WRX STi Spec C around the touge too. Should be neat to watch.

What is BMI? Where can I see it? I need to see this! :)
 
The one thing circuits cannot replicate is a mountain pass. Mountain passes in Japan and Italy etc are very unique things to drive. No circuit is like them and you can't get the same feel on a circuit as you can get from a mountain pass.

Personally I love racing on circuits and drifting on circuits is great... racing does belong on the circuit. However, circuits can get quite boring when they are flat with the same set of corners. Mountain passes bring many more factors into play, far more corners and a huge challenge. I'd love to see a mountain pass or two used for a weekends worth of supervised mountain pass racing or something.. there is no need for it to be used illegally, but it always will be. Track time costs money and not everyone has that, especially those who spend all their money on their cars. People drag race in America on public roads, they do it here in England too... they even do it in Japan, but they also do racing on mountain passes too :)

People want to race their cars, they want to drive them fast... they will always do it anywhere they can.

Just because I like the idea of racing on a mountain pass doesnt mean I am actually going to do it.. I'd settle for doing it in a game really.. no risk to anyone then.
 
Seen the Alpine track at Millbrook Proving Ground?
 
on BMI where they do their touge battles, they use a somewhat of a mountain pass, but its an actual track thats closed off to others, so its good. if youre good enough of a driver, then you can try to get into junior WRC or whatnot. then you actually get to race on european mountain passes.
 
Originally posted by battle_stage
In the next BMI Petter Solberg takes his WRC car for a run on the Gansei touge, then he takes a stock WRX STi Spec C around the touge too. Should be neat to watch.

BMI...what is that and where can i find it? this sounds really good.
 
They did a Touge Challenge with a street spec WRX against a tarmac setup Impreza WRC car with Toshi Arai driving. That was pretty fun (watching the WRC car eat up the WRX).

By the way, if I'm not mistaken, the Touge course that they use in the BMI videos is a motorcycle track.
 
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