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Originally posted by live4speed
I hope I havn't got on the wrong side of anyone, I'm not bashing drifting or Initial D or the people that like either, but I don't see why people come here have started talking about cars using the Initial D names ect.

And Bazz I think I've seen the same video, the car that won looked alot like the Shigeno version from GT3 and I think the R34 came second.

Hmm.. Then were not looking at the same vid. The one im talking about ended with the R34 at last place..
 
Hmmm, I've seen a vid of a white AE86 with a carbon hood just beat a Blue R34, was if a four car race?
 
Nope. Two AE86 (one white and one white w/ black hood) and a Blue R34.
 
Definitely different races then, the AE86's have plenty of tuning potetial for an older car.
 
Originally posted by live4speed
Yeah, and you know what, thats exactley what Famine said.

I just let it wash over me these days...
 
Originally posted by Sobear
Also.. it's pronounced eight six, not eighty-six. :)

I need to ask you a question, can you read?
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hmm......I know that video.

The theme is " Does AE86 can beat GT-R if AE86's driver is
professional . And GT-R's driver is crap"

It is almost IMPIOSSIBLE to beat GT-R if you are averaged
lanked driver.
 
I say, let the speaker/writer pronounce it however they want to. Then take your desired car and prove just who is faster. :)

As for videos, Best Motoring's got a several videos for US consumption (English narration and English subtitles). A few of their videos have the "Togue Challenge" where they get various cars of various power-to-weight ratios and race them on a VERY narrow motorcycle track. Keiichi Tsuchiya's car is (a white Trueno with a FRP hood and black bumpers) the last car the the challenge winner goes up against - good stuff.
 
Originally posted by final drifter
Does anyone if the legendary hachi roku will be in gt 4?

have you not seen the pictures?

There is levin/truneo pictures out there.
 
:banghead: DOH!! I don't know what in God's name I was thinking.. ::Whispers.:: yesterday was a bad day.. ::Coughs.::

ANYWAYS.. I would like to apologize to Famine, personally.. I'm sorry.. :(
 
Trueno/corolla/AE86 sucks I'd never drive that thing even if i was paid to. it's a old car and all rusted up. I know a guy from school who has one that runs 12s now that i would drive.
 
How dare you put down the AE86. i bet it wouldnt want you sittin in the seat anyways cause your dirty ass!
 
Originally posted by akina_86
How dare you put down the AE86. i bet it wouldnt want you sittin in the seat anyways cause your dirty ass!

haha nice :lol:

I'd rather drive different cars to an AE86 aswell, but to each his/her own.
 
well you gotta remember that its a cheap car, and isnt meant to be some speed demon car. for its price, its a good car. much like...hmmm... well some people say the new echo hatch is good, so ill take that as an example. some people love it and for its price, its a good car, but ya, id rather take a WRX over it, but that doesnt mean its not a great car.
 
Originally posted by akina_86
How dare you put down the AE86. i bet it wouldnt want you sittin in the seat anyways cause your dirty ass!


:lol: :lol: omg it's just a corolla and still a p.o.s on wheels.
 
In GT4,
Is there only a Ae86 levin? No Trueno?
 
Unless theres one in a pic, GT4 will most likely have a few variations of the Levin and Trueno, but without an official list, we won't know.
 
Originally posted by cmetom
how do you mean? if u mean hachi-roku (for instance), then how is that an "Initial D" name?

a japanese name for sure, but since it's in a japanese game from a japanese company, i'm pretty sure the two AE86's in GT3 are the JAPANESE Truenos and NOT the american/other Corollas... just a thought.
Hmm, I never knew that, well if thats the case then hachi-roku all you wan't.
 
Originally posted by I6-4-eva
:lol: :lol: omg it's just a corolla and still a p.o.s on wheels.

What's good about the AE86 (for the benefit of those who don't seem to like anything with less than 6 cylinders):

They have a front engine, rear wheel drive layout.

It's reasonably cheap

Decent performance (Japanese and Euro versions are best - top speed is 120MPH and 0-60 is 8.5 secs)

They handle well

They have tough, reliable engines, which was also used in the 1st gen MR2 (4A-GEU for Jpn and Europe, 4A-GEC with modifications in US to comply with emmisions laws).

They provide a good basis for a drifting machine.

To sum this car up, it's a well-priced bag of fun, though they're getting long in the tooth now. So what if it's a Corolla. If I put a Cosworth engine in my dad's '95 1.4 Ford Fiesta giving it a possible 0-60 of 5.8 seconds (my estimate), even though it cou;d compete with Camaros, would it still be crap, because it's a Fiesta?


By the way, I have spotted both a Levin and Trueno AE86 in a screenshot on IGN. Here it is:

granTurismo4_061603_04.jpg
 
It wouldn't be crap, but it would still be a fiesta, whereas if you had an Cossie it would not only give you a better image, but you have a car that is good as standard and still has tuning potential. I'm not really into the whole modding scene, the way I se it is, instead of spending 20 odd grand on souping up a Golf, Civic, Fiesta or whatever, I could go out and buy a second hand Tuscan speed six. I know most modders spendage is under 5k but even then I could get an old BMW M3 or similar cars which regardless of weather the 5k spent on a Civic would make it quiker, i would prefer an early M3.
 
This car was my favorite to start with. It had good horsepower, excellent handling, and reasonable top speed, I think it was good to race other cars and would be helpful in this game.
 
There are people who love civics and I don't see why people can't love a FR corolla. By the way, 4A-GE is quite an efficient engine.
There are not many 4 cylinder NA engine like 4A-GE, and it is still the designated engine for toyota-atlantic.



http://www.toyota-atlantic.com
 
Originally posted by I6-4-eva
Trueno/corolla/AE86 sucks I'd never drive that thing even if i was paid to. it's a old car and all rusted up. I know a guy from school who has one that runs 12s now that i would drive.

yay my first post! and to tell you you're an idiot!

ae86 is very well respected on the track. At infineon raceway, there was an ae86 smoking m3s, z06s & mustang cobras. He was smoking all of them with JUST suspension mods and exhaust. He estimated his hp as 95 to the wheels. And this is not all word of mouth, i was in the car with him. :eek:

Not too bad for an old pos eh?
 
Someone said that drifting is so last year... You dumb phuk, we are not talking about Britney Spears or Limp Bizkit here. It is a way of driving, that has been around for a long time. It takes huge skill and rwd car that is correctly set up.

A little history lesson for you kids:

Keiichi "Drift King" Tsuchiya:


Keiichi bagan racing at a young age. he first discovered drifting while experimenting with his E.brake to cause his cars rear end to lose traction. Counter-steering his car's movement was fun and he found great enjoymen in it, but this also helped him to gain a better knowledge on how to control his car, and through this he taught himself the basics of controling a car. Keiichi was different than most great racers, he did not go to a racing school, did he come from a rich family. The enviroment around Keiichi had no no racing influence what so ever, but he persisted to drive and drive he did. He began to inspire his skills by driving on mountain passes, to better understand how to take each corner, to determine the best possible position of the car during a corner to obtain maximum speed exiting the corner. he developed an unwilling ability to take each corner at his desiresd speed, but this had its consequences. After all, this was neither a safe, nor smart way of driving. he many times found his car against the side of a wall or in the embankment, and found himself walking home.drifting to him was not just an exiting way to drive, or a quick way around the corner. To him it was ART.

Many racers will tell you that drifting is not the fastest way around the corner.This is where Keiichi Tsuchiya was crowned the Dori Kin or Drift King. Drifting tournaments were once evaluated on: style, technique, and speed. But latley tournaments have started to also judge on line and setup for multiple drift, this is very difficult. Keiichi's career didn't start until 1977 when he raced in amatuer leagues in underpowered cars. But his fame didn't begin until later when he was picked up to drive the ADVAN sponsored AE-86 Corolla GT-S. During races he would drift his 86 during corners to accuire a greater speed than his competitors. As his style developed his reputation grew. even though being an official race car driver he still set out to the mountains for illegal mountain racing, this greater immensed his reputation. After videos of his persistant mountatain racing were let out for retail his liscense as a driver was suspended! but even this helped his reputation to grow, and his fan base began to expand. He was seen as a sort of rebel who accuired such success out of sheer determination and will. And even today he shares an amazing bond with the car he grew up with. His Toyota AE-86.


Here is the man in action:
http://superhonda.com/video/ae86_drift.avi


AE86 has 1600cc 4A-GE engine, which in 1983 was state of the art technology, in 1600cc class it was uncomparable in the world. Not Honda, BMW or any other top engine manufacturer couldn't offer anything like it - only after a long time, 6 years later came Honda's 1600cc B16 VTEC...
If You look at it in 2004, it is still a great engine, used widley in 1600cc class racing, Formula Atlantic uses it in naturally aspirated form... 240-255hp!!!
AE86 is also unique, because in the 80's all the competition was fwd - which, as we all know, sucks.
 
OK, so he was a licensed race car driver, and he still raced on public streets? Proof that "Drifters" are stupid.
 
Originally posted by live4speed
Hmm, I never knew that, well if thats the case then hachi-roku all you wan't.

hehe thank you, i will!!

:)
 
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