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I'm sure Musk still has or can easily gain access to citizens bank accounts, tax records, etc. and I'm sure at some point he's going to threaten to use it.
 
I'm sure Musk still has or can easily gain access to citizens bank accounts, tax records, etc. and I'm sure at some point he's going to threaten to use it.
I mean, that would be his nuclear option. It would also get him locked up AND get Trump in a lot of trouble... which neither the Republicans nor the SC would have any idea how to deal with other than say "he's the president".
 
This just shows that the world is in an extremely poor state right now. People with that much power and money behaving like children. Children that have been dropped way too many times on their heads.

It's a first class **** show and the **** needs to be flushed from existence rather sooner than later.
 
It’s like Man City playing Man Utd in the cup final. I want both to loose so badly, but I also want both sides to thrash the other side too. I’m hoping for a penalty shootout. Great loss for the loser but not a satisfying win either.
 
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Good News: Trump administration brings back Abrego Garcia from El Salvador.
Bad News: They are now charging him with human trafficking.
Confusing News (for me): I don't get how this helps Garcia. If Abrego Garcia is found innocent, he will be deported to El Salvador for being an illegal immigrant. If Abrego Garcia is found guilty, he will be deported to El Salvador for being an illegal immigrant AND committing human trafficking. I can't see Noem letting him stay or get anything beneficial from this.
 
Good News: Trump administration brings back Abrego Garcia from El Salvador.
Bad News: They are now charging him with human trafficking.
Confusing News (for me): I don't get how this helps Garcia. If Abrego Garcia is found innocent, he will be deported to El Salvador for being an illegal immigrant. If Abrego Garcia is found guilty, he will be deported to El Salvador for being an illegal immigrant AND committing human trafficking. I can't see Noem letting him stay or get anything beneficial from this.
Is the withholding of removal order still in effect? If so, considering they already admitted he was deported in error, if they fail to convict I really don't see any legal basis for deporting him again. If anything it would just remove their only argument for leaving him in El Salvador in the first place.

If they can't prove he's part of MS-13 or a danger to the country, I don't see the Supreme Court allowing him to be deported again. Not that I put it past this administration to try, but clearly the courts have some power if Abrego Garcia is being returned in the first place.
 
Is the withholding of removal order still in effect? If so, considering they already admitted he was deported in error, if they fail to convict I really don't see any legal basis for deporting him again. If anything it would just remove their only argument for leaving him in El Salvador in the first place.

If they can't prove he's part of MS-13 or a danger to the country, I don't see the Supreme Court allowing him to be deported again. Not that I put it past this administration to try, but clearly the courts have some power if Abrego Garcia is being returned in the first place.
I don't believe the order has been vacated but I can see him being deported anyway. The protection order was granted by an immigration judge serving the DOJ, as immigration courts do (they're not actual courts of law, which is why immigration warrants can't be enforced to the extent that judicial warrants can; they don't grant access to private property, for example), and was never challenged because the DOJ didn't see him as a threat. The only evidence against him was a report of an altercation involving law enforcement over loitering outside a Home Depot, though Kilmar Abrego Garcia wasn't named in the police report for that incident, and the statement of a confidential informant submitted to immigration officials by a cop that was suspended at the time, and ultimately removed from the force, for providing a prostitute with information in exchange for sexual favors.

I'm not certain where they take a challenge immediately beyond immigration court but most of this has been out of Louisiana which is going to be friendly with the current DOJ, and it may end up before the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals which, again, is going to be friendly with the current DOJ. Alternatively, the indictment was out of Nashville, which is Sixth Circuit jurisdiction, and that's less of a guarantee that the protection order will be vacated but it's still highly likely given the advantage the state has in appeals, with federal judges having been prosecutors at a high rate.

But Kilmar Abrego Garcia wasn't simply deported before. Kilmar Abrego Garcia was renditioned to a foreign prison. If not for the order of protection, Kilmar Abrego Garcia could have been removed from the country under the Immigration and Nationality Act and there likely would have been no legal challenge and injunction because that is sufficient process to satisfy requirements per existing precedent.

Now is it weird that the DOJ didn't "discover" that Kilmar Abrego Garcia was involved in "human trafficking" until SCOTUS ordered that every effort be made to see him returned to the United States? Because I think that's weird.
 
Every weekend, for many weeks on end, the weather where I live has been 💩

I prefer the pre-DOGE days, when the Federal Government still had some resources, and the Democrats secretly controlled the weather.

 



Oooh. Someone finally got something.

Trump is so sensitive, it's like he's got that ego boost, he wants to be the perfect president. And everytime someone questions what he does/enforces, he gets all pissed off. Remember that time back in 2020 when the pandemic started, he told Americans to drink bleach. WTF!?


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Makes no sense at all.


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Lol, doesn't surprise me, he's made a lot of mistakes in the past. He does have a temper though.
 
Is today going to be another mark on Trump's presidency?

The protests in L.A. that have been taking place over the past few days is the people standing up for what they believe in, showing the president that they are opposed to his actions, that they do not support his choices. Trump seems blind to this. The Trump administration has tried to defend ICE by stating that they are just doing routine deportation actions against criminals that entered the country illegally. The people do not agree.

The National Guard have been deployed. More protests are planned for today. Is this a powder keg waiting for a spark? Will there be violence of American National Guard against American Citizens? Violence that Trump will use to justify deploying the National Guard, even though the mayor of L.A. doesn't support it?
 
"Markwayne" is the kind of name you get when your parents name you after their father.

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Copelovitch is so much on point here I suspect all MAGA trolls will be able to do in response is make easy "cope" jokes based on his surname.
 
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